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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:29 PM by Paroxysm
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I now have to wonder if there is any correlation between what we're seeing pop up on our satellite images today:
and this newest CC formation:
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:31 PM by northernwoods
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Some guys are creating beautiful art on fields and again; human mind is seeing some bigger-than-life MEANING.
I like crop circles art but the "messages" and analysis of figures were done for just trying to go to the one goal: everything is (have to be)
extraterrastial origin.
7th of July will come and past and nothing happens. Some people are just funny or should I say naive.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:32 PM by N3krostatic
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Isn't that all dependent on the size and intensity of the CME?
I'm only saying "if" here, but if it were big enough, technically couldn't it fry pretty much everything or is that entirely impossible?
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:49 PM by N3krostatic
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Perhaps the reason why this could be a cryptic message if it were really coming from aliens is because it was coming from aliens alone. There is more
to the picture and we don't always understand every angle. It's like me going to an alien planet and asking them why can't I just microwave my mac
and cheese. I just don't understand why.
That's the problem, we don't understand why. There could be a million limiting factors and reasons why the message from aliens is encrypted. After
all if it is the case, they are alien right? That means they are not human, meaning their means of communication and everything else is probably
different, hence alien...
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:57 PM by CINY8
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:58 PM by Paveway27
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I really dont know if you all remember reading the newer webbot predictions, but didnt it say somthing about things starting to get bad around then
getting worse by december. I dunno, it sounds to me this could be the Nature part of things going downhill. I mean well all know the economic part has
already happened and is. We got to the top people, now we have to survive the ride down, my question is, Can We?   q
Link
Edit: I relised I read it wrong, but still stuff is going to get worse. I say bring it, I love a challenge. Shows what were made of..
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 04:59 PM by soundmatrix2009
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heh nice example movie knowing
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 05:10 PM by Revel
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Has anyone made any connection to an earlier crop circle, discovered August 4th 2003? (See image below). Now at the time it was calles a swallow, but
if you look at the shape, it matches quite interestingly. The center "tail" only have 6 globes, and across there ate 7 streamers (Including the
tail). But other than the minor dicsrepancy of only 6 globes in the center (instead of the 7 in this years find) it does bear a remarkcable
likeness.
Sorry no link to actual page as i am not a member of that site ( www.cropcircleconnector.com...)
Revel
TheoriesAndConspiracies.com
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 05:22 PM by VitalOverdose
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It doesn't take a genius to notice the complete absence of non-interconnecting patterns in almost all crop circle designs. All the patterns are
linked by lines of some kind.
Also all the circular parts of the patterns clearly show 2-3 meter wide tracks spiraling into the center. Which is exactly the pattern you get when
you use a plank of wood tied to 2 bits of rope to flatten the grass.
Im a graphics artist and i can tell you that all you need to plot out complex patterns like this is a stick (thats taller than the grass/corn
whatever) put into the ground with a long bit of string tied to the top.
You would have markers or knots in the string to plot out the different edges of the design.
The reason why so many people think these patterns mean something is because they were designed by humans to look interesting.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 05:27 PM by Phage
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As I said, a solar storm can cause a geomagnetic storm. An extreme geomagnetic storm can do very serious damage to our power systems as well as
causing other problems.
Power systems: : widespread voltage control problems and protective system problems can occur, some grid systems may experience complete collapse
or blackouts. Transformers may experience damage.
Spacecraft operations: may experience extensive surface charging, problems with orientation, uplink/downlink and tracking satellites.
Other systems: pipeline currents can reach hundreds of amps, HF (high frequency) radio propagation may be impossible in many areas for one to two
days, satellite navigation may be degraded for days, low-frequency radio navigation can be out for hours, and aurora has been seen as low as Florida
and southern Texas (typically 40° geomagnetic lat.)**.
www.swpc.noaa.gov...
On the average we see 4 days with this kind of intensity during each 11 year solar cycle. We have had some pretty serious action in the past. The
strongest geomagnetic storm recorded was in 1859. In 1921 there was a huge one, many times more powerful than the 1989 event. Could it get worse?
Sure, why not? Should we expect worse? I don't really see why, though an event on the level of 1921 would be bad enough.
I didn't say a geomagnetic storm wasn't a serious matter. I said solar storms do not cause the magnetosphere to "collapse" and leave us exposed to
the solar wind as claimed by the OP. The harder the solar wind pushes, the harder the magnetosphere pushes back.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 05:38 PM by N3krostatic
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Well I appreciate your reply. Thank you for helping me understand this a little better and for clarifying. My misunderstanding.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 05:57 PM by CINY8
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"The Earth's magnetic field has been decreasing. This decrease actually began 2000 years ago, but the rate of decrease suddenly became much more
rapid 500 years ago. Now, in the last 20 years or so, the magnetic field has become erratic. Aeronautical maps of the world — which are used to
allow airplanes to land using automatic pilot systems — have had to be revised worldwide in order for the automatic pilot systems to work.
Late last year, the Arctic ice cap on the exact spot of the North Pole completely melted for the first time in known history. Green Peace reported
that, relative to the winter ice pattern, the cap had previously melted over 300 miles toward the pole, and that late last year both military and
civilian ships were able to actually pass directly over the North Pole. It was water. Until now, as far as we know, there has never been a time where
the ice was less than ten feet thick. In contrast, the South Pole has an ice cap that is about three miles deep, and yet huge pieces of ice continue
to break off and melt.
There is a now a Giant Breach in the Earth's Magnetic Field
NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. When
this happens, solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. Exploring the mystery is a
key goal of the THEMIS mission, launched in February 2007."
alexansary.com...
"Earth's magnetic field impacts the climate!" = Global Warming?!
Also the cause of recent airplane crashes perhaps?
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 06:21 PM by questioningall
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WOW Star for you - What AMAZING circles - it seems to have some message they REALLY want to get across. There is something about them that gives me
the chills, though I don't know why.
I am inserting the pictures you have linked.
June 21
June 22
July 1
It is almost as if a arrow is pointed right at us and ready to shoot us.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 06:29 PM by questioningall
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by N3krostatic
I didn't say a geomagnetic storm wasn't a serious matter. I said solar storms do not cause the magnetosphere to "collapse" and leave us exposed to
the solar wind as claimed by the OP. The harder the solar wind pushes, the harder the magnetosphere pushes back.
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Please show me ANYWHERE I said that solar storms CAUSE the magnetosphere to collapse!!!! You will find what you just said is NOT TRUE!! Amazing how
you love to make statements and imply I wrote that are not anywhere in the thread!
I said the magnetosphere DID collapse during the last solar storm! AND you and everyone else can see it yourself. I inserted a vid of this last
weekends solar storm!!
SO for NOW ON - DO NOT put words down that I NEVER SAID!!!
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 06:35 PM by Rockstrongo37
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Isnt this kind of the plot line in "Knowing"? Just interesting to see the same story played out in this crop circle. I'd sooner say that this is
just a nice crop circle that some people did and nothing more. The only way I would even start to be concerned is if there the usuall battery of
tests run on the plant material and see if there are any genetic or radiological changes or cellular changes. Trust me people this will simply turn
out to be nothing but a nice crop design.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 06:52 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by lel1111
Interesting. So if there's a severe solar storm and if the magnetosphere collapses, what's the worst that could happen to us?
The worst? Wipe out all life on Earth...
The least?
Severe Solar Radiation burns
That is if as you say the " magnetosphere collapses"
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 06:57 PM by zorgon
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NASA - A Giant Breach in Earth's Magnetic Field
Dec. 16, 2008
"The opening was huge—four times wider than Earth itself," says Wenhui Li, a space physicist at the University of New Hampshire who has been
analyzing the data. Li's colleague Jimmy Raeder, also of New Hampshire, says "1027 particles per second were flowing into the
magnetosphere—that's a 1 followed by 27 zeros. This kind of influx is an order of magnitude greater than what we thought was possible."
and this is the key point
The event began with little warning when a gentle gust of solar wind delivered a bundle of magnetic fields from the Sun to Earth. Like an
octopus wrapping its tentacles around a big clam, solar magnetic fields draped themselves around the magnetosphere and cracked it open. The
cracking was accomplished by means of a process called "magnetic reconnection." High above Earth's poles, solar and terrestrial magnetic fields
linked up (reconnected) to form conduits for solar wind. Conduits over the Arctic and Antarctic quickly expanded; within minutes they overlapped over
Earth's equator to create the biggest magnetic breach ever recorded by Earth-orbiting spacecraft.
So according to NASA the solar wind does indeed do that... and this was a 'gentle gust'
science.nasa.gov...
Kinda looks like your Jellyfish
May I suggest buying LOTS of sun block?
OH BTW if you want to keep tabs on that
Ulysses Reveals Global Solar Wind Plasma Output at 50-Year Low
ulysses.jpl.nasa.gov...
Sunscreen LOTS of it...
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:07 PM by Phage
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Will it be a very bad solar storm hit? Will our magnetosphere be able to handle it without collapsing?
It seemed that you were concerned about a solar storm causing the magnetosphere to collapse.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:09 PM by Good2Go
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A solar flare occured on the opposite side of the sun on 6/22
Here's a link:
spaceweather.com...
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:22 PM by Phage
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Since (as usual) you provide no source for your image I took the liberty.
Most kids have hobbies, but David Hahn's was slightly more exotic - atomic chemistry. While he was working on his Atomic Energy merit badge for
the Boy Scouts, he built a nuclear reactor in his garden shed www.sonicbomb.com...
Seems the young man in the image did not recieve "solar radiation" burns. The damage is actually from beta radiation. Unless our atmosphere gets
blown away by the solar wind after the magnetosphere collapses the only "solar radiation" burns we're going to get is from the ultraviolet rays
which are always present. But the lack of air would probably kill us first.
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