Skeptics seem to rely on FAITH for Flight 93 buried claim, page 8
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 11:52 PM by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by benoni



I will leave it to you to read today's news on the Air France investigation and then figure out how it is much different from Flight 93.



reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 12:14 AM by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by ATH911



I have already answered you on that question...several times......


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 04:46 PM by GenRadek
reply to post by Swampfox46_1999



You do know that you cannot argue logically with illogical people correct? Kinda like arguing with North Korea. Gets you nowhere fast.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 07:48 PM by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by benoni



Like I said earlier, read what they are saying about how the Air France flight impacted the water....then get back to me.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 07:50 PM by Swampfox46_1999
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Now you want me to prove that there wasnt someone sitting there with a scale weighing every piece that came out of the crater? (comments deleted to avoid being penalized)

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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 07:52 PM by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by AgentX09





Not a passenger airliner


Pointy object, moving fast, digs into dirt.



There should have been debris all over that field


There was.



And what about the rocovering the bodies?


In a crash like that, you dont recover bodies...you recover pieces. Which, they did.




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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:36 PM by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by benoni





All the evidence points to a shootdown by missile....


It does? How so? What kind of missile do you think it was? Heat seeker or radar guided?



Initial eyewitnesses reported No plane, no wreckege...no evidence of it even being a crash site.......


Got to throw the BS flag on that statement. The initial statements by those first on the scene say differently.

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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:50 PM by Swampfox46_1999

Eric Peterson, 28, was working in his shop in the Somerset County village of Lambertsville yesterday morning when he heard a plane, looked up and saw one fly over unusually low



The plane continued on beyond a nearby hill, then dropped out of sight behind a tree line. As it did so, Peterson said it seemed to be turning end-over-end



Then Peterson said he saw a fireball, heard an explosion and saw a mushroom cloud of smoke rise into the sky



Peterson rushed to the scene on an all-terrain vehicle and when he arrived he saw bits and pieces of an airliner spread over a large area of an abandoned strip-mine in Stonycreek Township.



"There was a crater in the ground that was really burning," Peterson said. Strewn about were pieces of clothing hanging from trees and parts of the Boeing 757, but nothing bigger than a couple of feet long, he said. Many of the items were burning.





Charles Sturtz, 53, who lives just over the hillside from the crash site, said a fireball 200 feet high shot up over the hill. He got to the crash scene even before the firefighters.




The biggest pieces you could find were probably four feet [long]. Most of the pieces you could put into a shopping bag, and there were clothes hanging from the trees."




Fox stepped over a seat back. He saw a wiring harness, and a piston. None of the other pieces was bigger than a TV remote




Shanksville VFD firefighter Keith Curtis: "I walked up to where the tire was on fire, probably a hundred feet past the crater. It was a big tire. I was thinking that this is a big jet. I hit it good with the hose and put it out. I stopped and 'poof,' it just started on fire again."




Firefighter Mike Sube: "We made our way to a small pond. That's where I observed the largest piece of wreckage that I saw, a portion of the landing gear and fuselage. One of the tires was still intact with the bracket, and probably about three to five windows of the fuselage were actually in one piece lying there. ...There were enough fires that our brush truck was down there numerous times. ...I saw small pieces of human remains and occasionally some larger pieces. That was disturbing, but what was most disturbing was seeing personal effects



All first accounts by the people first on the scene of Flight 93's demise.....


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 09:57 PM by SPreston
posted by Swampfox46_1999
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post by benoni




Initial eyewitnesses reported No plane, no wreckege...no evidence of it even being a crash site.......


Got to throw the BS flag on that statement. The initial statements by those first on the scene say differently.


Do they? Here are some censored early Fox and NBC news reports. What do they say?

Fox - NBC Rare Footage

No debris on the ground. Nothing. How little debris is visible.



Nothing larger than a phone book.

Nothing there but a hole in the ground.

Nothing that you could distinguish that a plane was there.

No smoke. No fire.



Of course later some pieces larger than a phone book did allegedly show up.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 10:14 PM by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by SPreston



You keep posting that video, but appearantly you havent bothered to actually watch it. The aerial shots, show plenty of pieces and the reporter being interviewed says something that you seem to miss as well. "From where we were" The reporters werent allowed to traipse all over the crash site. They were kept a distance away from the actual impact site and definitely werent allowed into the woods where the pieces you mentioned were found.


reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 11:06 PM by SPreston
reply to post by Swampfox46_1999



Have YOU watched the video? Perhaps you should take your rosy good news sunglasses off first?

These two news reports were broadcast early on and never shown again. The NBC lady states that hundreds of investigators on the ground have found nothing larger than a phone book. How could hundreds of investigators on the ground miss this alleged piece which is a lot bigger than a phone book?



In fact a phone book would just about fit one of those windows. This piece must have been brought in later or maybe it was never there and just photographed elsewhere along with the pristine red cleaned and pressed bandana and the flight recorders allegedly dug up from 15 feet deep and 25 feet deep and a few other pieces. How could two small flight recorders essentially the same size and weight have such a huge difference in their alleged burial depth? They were back in the tail which logically would break off and tumble down range; so why would the flight recorders be in the hole in the first place? Logic and deductive reasoning tells me that those flight recorders were never at Shanksville and were photographed somewhere else.



And the Fox reporter was talking to a guy who had been on the ground taking pictures and he saw nothing which you could distinguish a plane from. Try watching the video with an open mind Swampfox, although that would likely be contrary to your orders.
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