Young people to older adults, "We know better, leave us alone!" Survey, page 1
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Topic started on 30-6-2009 @ 04:12 PM by OldThinker
Young people to older adults, "We know better, leave us alone!" Survey

Very recent survey results here:
www.cbsnews.com...

Why are young people blowing off the values of the older? Doesn't experience generally teach us to be smarter?

A new study released Monday by the Pew Research Center found Americans of different ages increasingly at odds over a range of social and technological issues. It also highlights a widening age divide after last November's election, when 18- to 29-year-olds voted for Democrat Barack Obama by a 2-to-1 ratio.

Almost eight in 10 people believe there is a major difference in the point of view of younger people and older people today, according to the independent public opinion research group. That is the highest spread since 1969, when about 74 percent reported major differences in an era of generational conflicts over the Vietnam War and civil and women's rights. In contrast, just 60 percent in 1979 saw a generation gap.

Asked to identify where older and younger people differ most, 47 percent said social values and morality. People age 18 to 29 were more likely to report disagreements over lifestyle, views on family, relationships and dating, while older people cited differences in a sense of entitlement. Those in the middle-age groups also often pointed to a difference in manners.



And what about religion?

Religion is a far bigger part of the lives of older adults. About two-thirds of people 65 and older said religion is very important to them, compared with just over half of those 30 to 49 and 44 percent of people 18 to 29.

In addition, among adults 65 and older, one-third said religion has grown more important to them over the course of their lives, while 4 percent said it has become less important and 60 percent said it has stayed the same.

"Around the notion of morality and work ethic, the differences in point of view are pretty much felt across the board," said Paul Taylor, director of the Pew Social and Demographic Trends Project. He cited a greater tolerance among younger people on cultural issues such as gay marriage and interracial relationships.

Still, he noted that the generation gap in 2009 seems to be more tepid in nature than it was in the 1960s, when younger people built a defiant counterculture in opposing the Vietnam War and demanding equal rights for women and minorities.

"Today, it's more of a general outlook, a different point of view, a general set of moral values," Taylor said.


Pew interviewed 2,969 adults by cell phone or landline from Feb. 23 to March 23. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points. In cases where older persons were too ill or incapacitated, their adult children were interviewed. Pew also used surveys conducted by Gallup, CBS and The New York Times to identify trends since 1969. So they are credible...

1) Why is this happening?
2) Are we losing control of society?
3) Have we lost respect for the wisdom of our elders?

OT



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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 04:43 PM by Heatburger
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I'd say 90% myself included. I still maintain a very good relationship with my parents, but there is no doubt about the fact that my younger sisters and I were left to our own devices often once I was at the age of 10. We had a sitter, of course...but you know how that can go, with her paying little to no attention to us.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by Heatburger]


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 04:46 PM by Hastobemoretolife
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Honestly, it is the public school system and over all lack of parents that are not educating their children.

That is my view on it. There is no replacement for experience, but it looks like the younger generation doesn't see it that way.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 04:46 PM by OldThinker
Originally posted by Heatburger
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post by OldThinker



I'd say 90% myself included. I still maintain a very good relationship with my parents, but there is no doubt about the fact that my younger sisters and I were left to our own devices often once I was at the age of 10. We had a sitter, of course...but you know how that can go, with her paying little to no attention to us.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by Heatburger]



I recognize I am but ONE, in terms 'perspective'....but in my case this is EVER SO TRUE....

I was an idiot, when they were 17-23....than I got SMART again, in their eyes....really?

Wonder why?

OT



reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 04:49 PM by Heatburger
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I think that has more to do with gaining maturity than anything. 17-23 is typically a "party hardy" time frame for people. Then you get over it. It's not that you got smarter, it's just that you matured. That's just my take.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 04:52 PM by OldThinker
Originally posted by Heatburger
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post by OldThinker




I think that has more to do with gaining maturity than anything. 17-23 is typically a "party hardy" time frame for people. Then you get over it. It's not that you got smarter, it's just that you matured. That's just my take.



Lot of wisdom there, Heatburger.... two thumbs up!

OT


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 04:58 PM by OldThinker
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
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post by OldThinker



Honestly, it is the public school system and over all lack of parents that are not educating their children.

That is my view on it. There is no replacement for experience, but it looks like the younger generation doesn't see it that way.


PUBLIC school, huh? I'm a product or public schools....my wife is a product of public schools...we turned out OK.....

OT

btw, we HOME SCHOOLED our kids....they turned out FANTASTIC....as an aside my daughter had 120 at her graduation open house...so much for the lack of socialization MYTH

OT's glad you posted.....


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 05:08 PM by Hastobemoretolife
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I'm a product of public school myself, before reality hit me in the face, my thinking was communist, then something happened and my world view changed. The thing is I didn't know that my thoughts were Socialist until I actually read up on socialism. This stuff just isn't taught like it should be anymore.

The public schools of this day and age are not teaching history, the kids are getting dumber. Things have taken a drastic downturn in the past few years. Look at the dropout rates, and the overall education that our kids are receiving. All the government bureaucracy is hindering a proper education.

I'm not saying it is the schools job to raise your child and some faults are also on the parents by not "debriefing" their kids when they get home.

It really isn't a surprise that the education standards in America has steadily declined since the induction of a federally mandated curriculum.
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