Originally posted by jibeho
Whoah!! Mr. Masonwatcher. McKinney never won Nobel for anything. The Nobel Laureate accompanying her on the S.S. Twinkie is 1977 Nobel Peace Prize recipient Mairead Maguire, who co-founded a group that worked for peace in Northern Ireland.

McKinney doesn't stand a snow balls chance in hell of ever winning a Nobel.

I already pointed that out to him. I guess he must have missed that one!

[edit on 3-7-2009 by jerico65]

Originally posted by masonwatcher


Why didn't you say so in the first place? My response is that McKinney is an activist and does not profit from campaigning in any financial or personal sense but you know that. Instead she has become a big fat target for zionists and die-hard neocons.

You still didn't explain how you are qualified to comment on other posters' motivations so I will assume you are not qualified to do so.

It is clear that you are of the belief that anyone who has a problem with McKinney is a zionist.

It is impossible to hold a reasoned discussion with someone who paints with such a broad brush. I tried but I really believe there is no interest on your part in engaging in an honest, intellectual debate.

And so, there is no reason for us to continue.

Originally posted by masonwatcher


You do realise this whole thread is about McKinney being illegally imprisoned by Israel?

So when you argue that Israel is entitled to scoop up foreign nationals on the seas for detainment, I would of course put it to you that you are a zionist.

Had you criticised McKinney on another matter not involving Israel or its lobby in the US, the zionist issue would be neither here nor there.

I must apologize. I thought someone who is as intelligent as you seem to be would have understood that a naval blockade is an act of sovereignty. I believe I even supplied a link where one might go to educate themselves on the matter.

My defense of Israel's actions has nothing to do with Zionism. That's kind of a lazy way to characterize me. I believe in the right of sovereign states to protect themselves.

I would feel this way whether we it was Israel, US, Egypt, China or Russia that was defending itself against an enemy that has historically launched unprovoked attacks against it...

I assumed you understood. SO perhaps, the next step in our exchange might be for you to go ahead and research it. Then we can continue.

[edit on 3-7-2009 by Night Watchman]

Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by jibeho
Whoah!! Mr. Masonwatcher. McKinney never won Nobel for anything. The Nobel Laureate accompanying her on the S.S. Twinkie is 1977 Nobel Peace Prize recipient Mairead Maguire, who co-founded a group that worked for peace in Northern Ireland.

McKinney doesn't stand a snow balls chance in hell of ever winning a Nobel.

I already pointed that out to him. I guess he must have missed that one!

You are both correct, I miss read the article. It is in fact former US Congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney, and Irish Nobel Prize Laureate, Mairead Corrigan Maguire are amongst many that have been detained.

Apparently Israel detains Nobel Prize Laureates.


What next, the Pope?

If US were to have grabbed an Israeli, I bet 100's of lobbyists within the US would have released him within 5 minutes time. Israel has no respects regarding their allies nor do they even care about the western world. The fact is they are sleeping in our beds in which we don't even sleep in.

If Israel did not own the US this would have been a different story.

Originally posted by masonwatcher

Incidentally there is no need to patronise me, I actually believe that I am your equal.

Please check the link I provided earlier in this thread. It explains how a naval blockade is an act of sovereignty.

I am not being patronizing. You are clearly my equal intellectually. Just very biased on this particular matter and not at all willing to do much research as your beliefs are apparently set in stone.

If I came off as patronizing, I apologize. It is a bit frustrating to debate this with you because you seem uninterested in doing anything else but convince the rest of us that you are right and we are wrong.

Unfortunately, Cynthia McKinney's public statements make it pretty clear what she is all about.

[edit on 3-7-2009 by Night Watchman]

Originally posted by Night Watchman

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

I hope they don't use torture.

Write your congress men and women,

Free Cynthia

Free Cynthia.

What is the world coming to ?

This is exactly why McKinney is doing what she is doing.

She refused to abide by a legal act of sovereignty on the part of a sovereign state that is simply exercising it's Internationally recognized right to self defense.

Yeah, she is a hero, alright.

The only torture involved in this case is when we are subjected to her anti-semitic screeds.

Free Cynthia?

Free us, from her lunacy.

It was a joke, lolol



Did they let her go yet?

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Originally posted by ElloAll

This is an unequivocal truth. Until we rid these people from our governmental institutions anything as said from the American government should be considered the will of Israel.

[edit on 3-7-2009 by ElloAll]

Who are "these people?" Are you speaking of Israeli citizens? Can you identify the Israelis citizens who are part of our governmental institutions?

Originally posted by masonwatcher
That is over the top;

No. It's the truth. Arafat was a mass murdering, child raping, pedophile
It's been documented. And I know you have seen the documentation.
It's been posted in threads you have been active in.

Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel

Netanyahu was correct. From the Israeli standpoint the attacks of 9/11
brought the USA into the war against radical Islam and that made
Israel very happy. That's why they didn't warn us when they found
out it was going to happen. Heck, they even had people video tapping (from across the river I think) the towers getting hit.

Isreal didn't pull off 9/11 .. but they found out about it and didn't stop it.

With friends like that, who needs enemies.

You keep forgetting - here is where we agree. I have said it before and I'll say it here just so that it will be clear to you....

IMHO - Isreal is NOT America's friend

However ... Israel is a soverign nation that has a right to defend itself.
The so-called Palestinians are in the wrong. McKinney is in the wrong.

Ya' know Mason .. you continually try to insult me (It would only work if I cared what others thought about me, and I don't, so insults never effect me) ... you continually say things like 'go home to Israel' and 'Israel is your priority' .. crap like that. I am just expressing the TRUTH that Israel is a soverign nation that has a right to defend itself and I am just expressing the TRUTH that the so-called Palestinians are a blood thirsty bunch who do not want peace because it would put them out of the sympathy (and free $$$ aid) business. That's the truth of the situatioin.



[edit on 7/3/2009 by FlyersFan]