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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 02:48 PM by badmedia
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Facts from the PDF.

1. We are no where near the galactic plane. We have been moving away from the galactic plane and have been for millions of years. So anytime someone mentions 2012 and the galactic plane, they are bunk. It's an alignment, not a physical crossing of the plane.

He says it is close to the galactic plane?


The Sun and the solar system are located approxi-mately 8.5 kpc from the galactic center, and 10-20 pc above the central plane of the galactic disk.

The Sun and planets passed through the galactic plane about 2-3 million years ago, moving "northward."



About the only thing he can say is that we are closer to galactic center than we ever get. But that is in terms of kpc, or 1000's of pc's. AKA, no where near.

1 pc = 19 million miles, or 3.6 light years.


The solar system Is currently close to and moving inward toward "perigalacticon," the point in the orbit closest to the galactic center.


2. Our sun travels slower than most stars. So on an average of about 1 million years, a star comes "close to us". Close being a relative word. Right now, Proxima Centauri is the closest star to us. It is 1.3pc away. It is the binary star of Alpha Centauri.

1 pc is about how close our neighborhood stars come to us.

In the entire lifetime of our solar system, it is projected that a star may come as close as 900 AU to us, and if that happens we could be in reach of it's comets and such. That would be bad. But the event will also last for over 1 million years due to the huge distances and time it takes for it to move away. If it takes 1 million years for it to leave, imagine how long it takes to actually get here. Not an overnight or "over the summer" event.

[edit on 6/30/2009 by badmedia]


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 03:18 PM by DDay
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RiverGoddess ~ your avatar is beautiful

not a one liner


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 07:37 PM by badmedia
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I try to keep an open mind. To me it sounds more like he is talking about finding the center of the galaxy, and the black hole at the center than a brown drawf orbiting.

The directions he is giving are directions towards the black hole.

This is the kind of thing that would be looked for back in the early 80's as well.

And, we are actually coming closer to the center of the galaxy than we ever do right now. That is not the galactic plane, we are far away from that. It's from the center of the galaxy. But we are of course still actually really far away from it, it's just as close as we get.

As the black hole does keep the sun in orbit around it, I wonder if perhaps it would make sense that in general it keeps a pull on the planets and such as well, and that would account for the parts they can't figure out with probes gaining speeds and such.

The black hole at the center of the galaxy is not doubt a "2nd sun" for us, as we rotate around it. It is also a dark sun.

If there is a brown dwarf that orbits the sun, then it is still subject to keplers laws. It's not so much the idea of such an object that I disagree with. It's what everyone claims about, and the time frame of 2012 etc that I think is for sure wrong. So I try to remain open.

I don't think I buy the "rings" thing at all. I gave it a hmmm at first. But if it's true then why do the planets, and this object itself have such elliptical orbits? But yet, we get hit by this ring and it causes a tsunami?

And what he says about the shifts and such and the tsunami's. He is acting like it would just happen instantly or something, rather than gradually. It's not like it's just going to all of a sudden turn on it's gravity.

Going to listen to the rest of it.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:56 PM by antar
NASA WISE Mission:

PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, or WISE, has been assembled and is undergoing final preparations for a planned Nov. 1 launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Calif.

The mission will survey the entire sky at infrared wavelengths, creating a cosmic clearinghouse of hundreds of millions of objects -- everything from the most luminous galaxies, to the nearest stars, to dark and potentially hazardous asteroids. The survey will be the most detailed to date in infrared light, with a sensitivity hundreds of times better than that of its predecessor, the Infrared Astronomical Satellite.

"Most of the sky has never been imaged at these infrared wavelengths with this kind of sensitivity," said Edward Wright, the mission's principal investigator at UCLA. "We are sure to find many surprises."


Among expected finds from WISE are hundreds of thousands of asteroids in our solar system's asteroid belt, and hundreds of additional asteroids that come near Earth. Many asteroids have gone undetected because they don't reflect much visible light, but their heat makes them glow in infrared light that WISE can see. By cataloguing the objects, the mission will provide better estimates of their sizes, a critical step for assessing the risk associated with those that might impact Earth.

"We know that asteroids occasionally hit Earth, and we'd like to have a better idea of how many there are and their sizes," said Amy Mainzer of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., the mission's deputy project scientist. "Whether they are dark or shiny, they all emit infrared light. They can't hide from WISE."


The mission is also expected to find the coldest stars -- dim orbs called brown dwarfs that are too small to have ignited like our sun. Brown dwarfs are littered throughout our galaxy, but because they are so cool, they are often too faint to see in visible light. The infrared detectors on WISE will pick up the glow of roughly 1,000 brown dwarfs in our galaxy, including those coldest and closest to our solar system. In fact, astronomers say the mission could find a brown dwarf closer to us than the nearest known star, Proxima Centauri, located approximately 4 light-years away.


DG, there are strange things happening today and even Science at time must admit their vulnerability in the face of the sheer expanse of the unknows within our Universe.

So what to do? Just live life as totally as you can, enjoy all of the many things that make it worth living and stay informed to keep your adrenaline pumped up. Yesterday arrived without more than a sunrise and tomorrow will be the same. And if something happens to change that course, well you always have us and that is more than many people can say.

EDIT for 2 reasons:
1. See DG, even the worst charlatan could scare us with the reality of a nearby brown dwarf, and they would be right.

2.
www.nasa.gov...

[edit on 30-6-2009 by antar]



reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 02:06 AM by Exv8densez
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Oh I know. Please don’t get me wrong. As to ancient civilizations cultural knowledge, I can consider. I only started recently to take the Mayan calendar fact seriously because there were serious researches backing it, and judging by the recent data of sun activity, it is evident that something is about to happen soon.

I just find it enraging when sudden prophecies are waged to feed off people’s fear. Religion itself has been used to keep the masses ignorant and all of a sudden we’re supposed to rely on it for survival when catastrophe’s looming? I still prefer the imperfection or vulnerability of science. With more understanding of the worlds around us, we’re more empowered to face, even the unknown, with rationality.
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