Originally posted by jlc767
But if you research Roswell enough, you will see that the heaping mounds of eye-witness testimony and amazing revelations from people like Philip Corso are too profound to discount outright.

Yeah, but if you research it even further, you find that none of the accounts go anywhere, they're contradictory, there's nothing solid to back any of them up, and other unclassified records from the base indicate that nothing particularly out of the ordinary happened aside from the little dog and pony show of the misidentified balloon parts, and there were essentially no short- or long-term career effects to any of the people involved. Most people at the base at the time, including those who would have been directly involved in such a significant project, concur that nothing incredible happened and they're embarrassed by all the alien nonsense.

Big deal, isn't it basically a fact that
UFO's are real? I haven't even seen one
in real life, but I still am 100% positive
that they exist.

A gazillion flags and scores of replies that take the guy's account of what Don Phillips said as gospel. What he allegedly says is fairly extraordinary. Cure for cancer being withheld? A scanner that diagnoses and treats? Other than NoHup and one other member...nobody has raised a question about honesty or truthfulness.

Disclosure Project witnesses aren't wholly credible witnesses. Some have a lot of very hoaky nonsense and are deeply questionable in their claims and identities. One mentioned a soldier who's bible in his pocket prevented aliens from massacring innocents in Vietnam. Isn't that a little bit ludicrous?

There's no record of Neil Armstrong saying anything about aliens on the moon. A lot of discussion, innuendo and rhetoric...no evidence. Much like Edgar Mitchell, what Phillips is alleged to have said mentions no first hand experience...merely second-hand accounts. If those conversations have taken place...who knows who told him? Are they reliable or stringing him along? Is it fantasy or disinfo? WTF knows?

Has anyone seen the 'ex-Nasa Director Mclleland's' claims? John Lear's claims? I know 'skepticism' is a dirty word to some members, but using a little pinch of skepticism (just a teeny bit) doesn't mean giving up on UFOs. They exist...there's no doubt about it. When a guy is supposed to have made these claims, let's not jump off the deep end and take it as smoking gun evidence...it's hearsay from dubious sources.....

Exasperation/

When the don Phillips made that statement wouldn't the government do something to say he lied or something like that instead of let him just go out and said what he said?

I've seen this. Good stuff. I get Filers Files emailed to me and its the best going for recent UFO/Alien news.

Here is some second hand info I have.

I had a good friend who's girlfriend was a friend, my wife and I used to go out and socialize with for a few years. He was a computer guy and I was only a couple years into it as a computer graphics artist. This was late 80's.

He was a programmer and was working on involved technology projects. One was a valve control for a oil refinery plant, so quite advanced for the late 80's.

Once I met him for lunch at a contract he was on for a biomedical firm in Silicon Valley. This company designed and built high tech medical equipment. Mostly cardio (heart) related. They hired him to design the software and interface for what he called a real medical Tricorder, referencing the Star Trek name for the advice. It was actually called something else.

Being a computer tech geek and conceptualist myself, I asked him more about it and he said it actually read vitals at a distance and displayed data real time to the user.

I did not get the impression or hear any details for the actual technology utilized, but sufice it to say he was adamint that my sci-fi impression was correct. It actually could sense vitals, some chemistry and do diagnosis to some extent. I did not see the unit or any of his code or visual interface design, but that's what he told me while I was in the building with him there.

Nothing indicated it effected the subject being scanned, but that was many years ago and would imagine advances through technologies gained from "other" sources could accelerate such a technology over night.

I would not be surprised in the least that this and many other devices exist and are being used. I've seen a triangle the size of a couple football fields move across land at 10 mph and do other strange things, plus other such actual experiences. Few things seem implausible since. Least of all Alien life.

ZG

When did Armstrong admit to seeing aliens? WHEN?

He didn't.

Also there is a reason for the old guys coming out of the woodwork now they're past their fifties. Money.