Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer, Don Phillips Says UFOs are Real, page 3
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 07:20 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by Nohup


Well you do have the Bob White artifact, but the lab tests from that are disputed but very interesting, these is also other trace cases that have very interesting physical evidence, but still nothing certain.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 07:29 PM by l_e_cox
reply to post by starwatcher1

This is good, but realize Phillips has been with us at least since the 2001 Press Club thing. He's not a new guy.
There are some newer people at Project Camelot and probably some other sites. That project is working hard to develop new information.
The situation is not static. You have to somehow come up to speed on it then stay on top of the new developments.

They've been in touch with a victim of the secret program to train psychic soldiers.
They've found a current scientist who is releasing data. Like: the whole Iraq thing is because they were sitting on some ET data we wanted?
They have interviews with a little Russian kid who remembers Mars that are translated into English.
There's a whole remote viewer thing going on.
And the there's Ben Fulford reaising hell over in Japan!

There is a lot out there, which is partly why a lot of people are saying "it's time!"
One of the posters onthis thread said that he thought the ET connection was the link between all this other secret stuff that gets reported, and he could be right. "Political intrigue" is nothing new in the history books, but what's been going on here (per reports) is totally beyond what we are used to on this planet.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 07:30 PM by rich23
reply to post by ChemBreather


Hi... don't know if anyone else has already pointed this out, but the audio in the clip you posted is a none-too-slick "reconstruction" of the alleged incident, If you listen to the clip there's background chatter from a real NASA mission at first... but it's one of the Challenger missions. You can hear them refer to it very clearly on there. Then when the Tranquility base UFO incident comes up, the audio quality changes and it certainly sounds like an actor to me - it doesn't sound anything like either Armstrong or Aldrin.

A lot of people believe the incident happened as described, including someone I know who was in SAC and had some good stories to tell. I'm not so sure, although my friend's belief does sway me that way.

I certainly think there was something not quite above board going on in the Apollo missions and continuing with NASA to this day.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 08:11 PM by bigern
Originally posted by l_e_cox
reply to post by starwatcher1


They've found a current scientist who is releasing data. Like: the whole Iraq thing is because they were sitting on some ET data we wanted?




That sounds interesting, I hadn't heard of that before. Where can I read more about it, any links?


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 08:40 PM by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by starwatcher1
Just saw this from the Flier Files on Mufon. Sounds interesting.

"These UFOs were huge and they would just come to a stop and do a 60 degree, 45 degree, 10 degree turn, and then immediately reverse this action". During the Apollo landing, Neil Armstrong says, "They’re here. They are right over there and look at the size of those ships. And, it is obvious they don’t like us being here".…When I was working with the Skunkworks with Kelly Johnson, we signed an agreement with the government to keep very quiet about this. Anti-gravitational research was going….We know that there were some captured craft from 1947 in Roswell, they were real. And, yes, we really did get some technology from them. And, yes, we really did put it to work….We knew each other from what we call unseen industry. We can term it black, deep black, or hidden.

The knowledge I have of these technologies came from the craft that were captured here. I didn’t see the craft, nor did I see the bodies, but I certainly know some of the people that did. There was no question that there are beings from outside the planet. Are these ET people hostile? Well, if they were hostile, with their weaponry they could have destroyed us a long time ago….We got these things that are handheld scanners that scan the body and determine what the condition is. We can also treat from the same scanner. I can tell you personally that we’ve been working on them. And we have ones that can diagnose and cure cancer. One of the purposes I had for founding my technology corporation in 1998, was to bring forth these technologies that that can clean the air and can help get rid of the toxins, and help get rid of the need for so much fossil fuel. Yes, it is time. I can tell you personally that it has already started.
www.nationalufocenter.com...


Yes, this all sounds true.
The U.S. Government has been sitting on this dual use technology
to mainly protect Israel. Crazy people in Iran would attack Israel
with this very advanced technology. If i were in charge I would
have done the same thing. Go ahead and reverse engineer
all of it but sit on it until the timing is right.
I'm thinking maybe January 2013.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 08:42 PM by T0by
Originally posted by Nohup
Originally posted by RichieScott1
The problem with having physical evidence is the restrictions around such things. In my time in the military, there were many facilities that restricted photography equipment; especially camera phones. Upon entering and exiting these facilities, one was thoroughly searched to ensure information and equipment were not compromised. It would be extremely difficult, to say the least, to obtain such physical evidence to present to the public.


Well, I never said it would be easy.

But the U.S. and the Soviets used to steal extremely highly classified information from each other all the time. Probably still do. So it can be done. Nothing being actively worked on can be kept entirely secret, because information propagates. It spreads like a fungus. And the more valuable the information is, the more it's likely to spread.

So something definitive would show up eventually. Unless you want to assume that the U.S. government (and all the other governments in the world, for that matter), which has shown itself time and again to be less than perfect with top secret stuff in the past, in this one case, has a spotless, perfect record. I find that harder to believe than aliens.

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Perhaps if they are able to go to the stars and back,
they also have technology which makes it impossible to leak information.
Such as certain mind control.

I don't know, can only daydream about it really.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 09:14 PM by starwatcher1
reply to post by Eurisko2012


You have made some very interesting comments, just wondering how you have come upon this knowledge? Care to share? U2 me if you would like. I would like more infomation


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 09:27 PM by starwatcher1
reply to post by jeddun


Perhaps you could do your own research and help you understand that many many people from many different backgrounds know a lot more that we do. Some are willing to tell their stories to the public, some are not.
If you have the knowledge by all means, don't keep us in the dark. For those of us who do our research, well it speaks for itself.
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