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Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer, Don Phillips Says UFOs are Real

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posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:04 PM
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If our governments have been in contact with Aliens, why do they not make their selves known to us? Surely they aren't blind to what's going on regarding our governments. Surely they wouldn't allows us to destroy Earth.

If Aliens exist, and I'm not saying they don't, why won't one answer me, why won't they make their selves known if they are already working w/ the government. The have to know their technology is being used for evil.. If aliens were a known fact, it would end the religion bull.




posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Trauma
I am paraphrasing here, but I remember an interview with a top level Lockheed employee who said "We have already been to the stars, and anything you can imagine we have already done."

I believe that this secret space program is the secret behind all secret societies. I believe that through an incredibly complex social network, the extremely rich manipulate the members of these secret societies to gain as much wealth and power as possible. What do they do with all of this money? Horde it? They fund the secret space programs. And of course they don't have to fund it directly, they can fund it through the governments and financial system they control. Ever wonder where those missing trillions went??


Missing trillions has been building deep, deep shelters for the elite for when the wandering brown dwarf causes the Sun to "fluctuate" in a few years. There is no place close else to go so rebuilting Earth is the only option. Of course with selective breeding eugenics which is what everything since the early 1900's has been all about.

Ever wonder why Obama doesn't care about spending? None of this matters in a few years so might as well live it up.

Just my guess. Sometimes the greatest secrets hide in plain sight.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Jnewell33
I think people would be outraged if the technology we have developed was ever released to the public. I look forward to checking out the body diagnostic machine. Now all I need to do is find a place to mount a check engine light. I want to be first inline for the upgraded program, lol. On a serious note I am surprised a medical machine like this hasn't already been developed. With unlimited potential for computer processing it is not unimaginable to have a machine to monitor your vitals as well and string out your DNA and do a complete cell count in the body. Then they will be able to see if your having any trouble thinking by monitoring your brain waves. Johnny Mnemonic here we come.


I'm not... Well, I'm not surprised that it is not out in the public. Think of the profit loss of Big Pharma! E gads!

Yes, there is incredible tech in Black Ops. Just ask Gary McKinnon!



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:20 PM
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Well you do have the Bob White artifact, but the lab tests from that are disputed but very interesting, these is also other trace cases that have very interesting physical evidence, but still nothing certain.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:29 PM
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This is good, but realize Phillips has been with us at least since the 2001 Press Club thing. He's not a new guy.
There are some newer people at Project Camelot and probably some other sites. That project is working hard to develop new information.
The situation is not static. You have to somehow come up to speed on it then stay on top of the new developments.

They've been in touch with a victim of the secret program to train psychic soldiers.
They've found a current scientist who is releasing data. Like: the whole Iraq thing is because they were sitting on some ET data we wanted?
They have interviews with a little Russian kid who remembers Mars that are translated into English.
There's a whole remote viewer thing going on.
And the there's Ben Fulford reaising hell over in Japan!

There is a lot out there, which is partly why a lot of people are saying "it's time!"
One of the posters onthis thread said that he thought the ET connection was the link between all this other secret stuff that gets reported, and he could be right. "Political intrigue" is nothing new in the history books, but what's been going on here (per reports) is totally beyond what we are used to on this planet.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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Hi... don't know if anyone else has already pointed this out, but the audio in the clip you posted is a none-too-slick "reconstruction" of the alleged incident, If you listen to the clip there's background chatter from a real NASA mission at first... but it's one of the Challenger missions. You can hear them refer to it very clearly on there. Then when the Tranquility base UFO incident comes up, the audio quality changes and it certainly sounds like an actor to me - it doesn't sound anything like either Armstrong or Aldrin.

A lot of people believe the incident happened as described, including someone I know who was in SAC and had some good stories to tell. I'm not so sure, although my friend's belief does sway me that way.

I certainly think there was something not quite above board going on in the Apollo missions and continuing with NASA to this day.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:50 PM
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This is the kind of information that I crave. It is not enough though. I want more more more!

Lets face it whether or not you buy the off world thing and the technology available, THIS is an exciting time to be alive and the possibilities are boundless.

I have the greatest respect for those coming forward with the snippits, my question is how do they get away with it now when at the time they were under their honor to be silent? Have some of the beings in the know said it is OK, or are they just coming forward by sheer numbers?

Did I say I love this type of thread?



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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We know UFOs are real. We know there are objects we witness in the sky.

The real question is: who or what flies them?



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX


but, you also would be suprised how many people believe in the young earth theory...for no reason than because the bible said so.

Be also suprised how many doubters also fall into the young earth theory catagory...ok, perhaps you wouldnt be suprised.

Peace...tipping point is almost here.


Agreed, I always thought that whole mindset was an exaggeration made up by anti religious people taking comments out of context until I met someone who truly believed that the world is only 6000 years old. Worse than that he didn't believe in dinosaurs, that blew my mind.

Back on topic, I love it when credible sources come forward it adds that sense of, well credibility to the subject after years of hoaxes and straight up bs. As interesting as this topic is for me, the people I try to discuss it with still won't care. If the President, the Pope, the UN whatever came out and said it's all true, I still think most people would shrug their shoulders and say "big deal"



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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I think this type of coming forward only stands to enhance the true experiencers who have against public and private scrutiny and embarrassment have their stories to tell as well.

Just because you are an average Joe does not mean you are an unworthy source.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by l_e_cox
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They've found a current scientist who is releasing data. Like: the whole Iraq thing is because they were sitting on some ET data we wanted?




That sounds interesting, I hadn't heard of that before. Where can I read more about it, any links?



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by antar
I think this type of coming forward only stands to enhance the true experiencers who have against public and private scrutiny and embarrassment have their stories to tell as well.

Just because you are an average Joe does not mean you are an unworthy source.


That's the problem, no one takes people on their word anymore. Swearing what you say is true used to mean something, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. It's funny how an eyewitness testimony is good enough to put you behind bars or worse but it's laughable when it comes to the UFO/Alien subject. Oh well, that's a whole other discussion not really related to the topic at hand.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by bigern]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by starwatcher1
Just saw this from the Flier Files on Mufon. Sounds interesting.

"These UFOs were huge and they would just come to a stop and do a 60 degree, 45 degree, 10 degree turn, and then immediately reverse this action". During the Apollo landing, Neil Armstrong says, "They’re here. They are right over there and look at the size of those ships. And, it is obvious they don’t like us being here".…When I was working with the Skunkworks with Kelly Johnson, we signed an agreement with the government to keep very quiet about this. Anti-gravitational research was going….We know that there were some captured craft from 1947 in Roswell, they were real. And, yes, we really did get some technology from them. And, yes, we really did put it to work….We knew each other from what we call unseen industry. We can term it black, deep black, or hidden.

The knowledge I have of these technologies came from the craft that were captured here. I didn’t see the craft, nor did I see the bodies, but I certainly know some of the people that did. There was no question that there are beings from outside the planet. Are these ET people hostile? Well, if they were hostile, with their weaponry they could have destroyed us a long time ago….We got these things that are handheld scanners that scan the body and determine what the condition is. We can also treat from the same scanner. I can tell you personally that we’ve been working on them. And we have ones that can diagnose and cure cancer. One of the purposes I had for founding my technology corporation in 1998, was to bring forth these technologies that that can clean the air and can help get rid of the toxins, and help get rid of the need for so much fossil fuel. Yes, it is time. I can tell you personally that it has already started.
www.nationalufocenter.com...


Yes, this all sounds true.
The U.S. Government has been sitting on this dual use technology
to mainly protect Israel. Crazy people in Iran would attack Israel
with this very advanced technology. If i were in charge I would
have done the same thing. Go ahead and reverse engineer
all of it but sit on it until the timing is right.
I'm thinking maybe January 2013.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Nohup

Originally posted by RichieScott1
The problem with having physical evidence is the restrictions around such things. In my time in the military, there were many facilities that restricted photography equipment; especially camera phones. Upon entering and exiting these facilities, one was thoroughly searched to ensure information and equipment were not compromised. It would be extremely difficult, to say the least, to obtain such physical evidence to present to the public.


Well, I never said it would be easy.


But the U.S. and the Soviets used to steal extremely highly classified information from each other all the time. Probably still do. So it can be done. Nothing being actively worked on can be kept entirely secret, because information propagates. It spreads like a fungus. And the more valuable the information is, the more it's likely to spread.

So something definitive would show up eventually. Unless you want to assume that the U.S. government (and all the other governments in the world, for that matter), which has shown itself time and again to be less than perfect with top secret stuff in the past, in this one case, has a spotless, perfect record. I find that harder to believe than aliens.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by Nohup]


Perhaps if they are able to go to the stars and back,
they also have technology which makes it impossible to leak information.
Such as certain mind control.

I don't know, can only daydream about it really.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by GorehoundLarry
We know UFOs are real. We know there are objects we witness in the sky.

The real question is: who or what flies them?


As of June 2009 I would say pilots from Lockheed Martin fly them.
- Black Projects -
It took us about 40 years but we FINALLY figured it ALL out.
It's just technology. The Grays are also flying them around.
Other races are also here on Earth.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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Now this is the kind of info I was looking for when I joined ATS S$F...Oh btw if this guy is for real look for his character and credibility to be smeared all over, then we know he is telling it how it is...cheers



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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You have made some very interesting comments, just wondering how you have come upon this knowledge? Care to share? U2 me if you would like. I would like more infomation



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 09:19 PM
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annnnnnd....why is this different than any other claim?..why should we believe the author of such nonsense? Just because it's written here...and padded with some syndicated "heard it all before" drivel?

Flagged and Starred why exactly? where's the proof of these claims? hell i could have done this? i easily could have orchestrated any type of claim under the guise of any government agency..hell pick one right freakin now and i'll write up some convincing fantasy!

puh-leeze.


wow i should just quit my job and start a cult, i'd clean up...lol starred and flagged...jesus.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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Perhaps you could do your own research and help you understand that many many people from many different backgrounds know a lot more that we do. Some are willing to tell their stories to the public, some are not.
If you have the knowledge by all means, don't keep us in the dark. For those of us who do our research, well it speaks for itself.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by SeeingBlue
If our governments have been in contact with Aliens, why do they not make their selves known to us? Surely they aren't blind to what's going on regarding our governments. Surely they wouldn't allows us to destroy Earth.



Probably because they see us as dumb animals. When we send a film crew out to watch animals we dont interfere with the lioness killing a gazelle, we just sit back and watch and try to learn about them from it.




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