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Topic started on 30-6-2009 @ 12:13 PM by Retseh
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Iran's election authority: Partial recount shows election valid
www.cnn.com
 TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Saying it had completed an investigation into alleged voter irregularities, Iran's election authority on Monday stood by
its findings that gave hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad an overwhelming victory and sparked more than two weeks of chaos in the streets.
A partial recount has confirmed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's victory, the Guardian Council says.
There was "no tangible irregularity," Guardian Council spokesman Abbas Ali Kadkhodaei told government-run Press TV after reporting that a recount of
some 10 percent of the votes found no significant di (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 12:14 PM by Retseh
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You'll notice that the rioting has died down, and Iran is coming to terms with the election rigging.
This recount (stunt) of 10% of the votes is intended to allay voters concerns, but I doubt many will be fooled, but probably enough will be.
PS - take a look at the photo in the link, can someone please find Ahmedinejad a suit that actually fits him, he really is one scruffy little turd.
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 12:22 PM by riley
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..a partial recount isn't a full recount. If it was a legit election they shouldn't have any problem with counting the lot than just a sample.,
expecting people to accept that as proof will just piss them off more imo.
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 12:44 PM by PsykoOps
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You got any actual evidence to backup your claim of rigging? Has anyone anywhere proven faul play?
Rioters were just sore losers, that's it.
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 01:13 PM by Aldolas
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Partially correct (IMHO) the sore losers being TPTB in certain western countries...
The trouble is, it may still be used as an argument to 'invade a sovereign democratic country'.
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 06:15 PM by antibyte
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I think recounting infront of a camera made it even worse
Suspicious ballot photos posted by Iran state media? A reader writes, "I believe this is well worth reporting: many interesting photos are being put
on the web as I write, a good number of them published by IRNA itself (see here). These are images from the recent Guardians Council TV broadcast
session where they 'recounted' some ballot boxes and found out that indeed Ahmadinejad's votes were higher than previously counted. These pictures
show two things very clearly: 1) that a whole lot of the ballots that are being recounted are fresh, crisp, unfolded sheets - which makes no sense,
given that people typically had to fold these sheets before they can slip them into the ballot boxes, and 2) that the handwriting on so many of the
sheets which are votes for 'Ahmadinejad' are the same handwriting (and very clearly so)."
For pictures visit :
www.huffingtonpost.com...
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 06:31 PM by drwizardphd
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Originally posted by PsykoOps
You got any actual evidence to backup your claim of rigging? Has anyone anywhere proven faul play?
Rioters were just sore losers, that's it.
I think the fact that they only recounted 10% of the votes is testament enough to the evidence of rigging.
Either recount all the votes, or don't count them at all. Samples prove nothing. They could have pulled that sample from areas that are more likely
to support one candidate over another, or so forth. For democracy to work every vote must count.
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 06:35 PM by Christian Voice
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Um yeah, I'm sorta gonna have to disagree with yoou there. The people in Iran aren't dumb. They know that Amaidiotajad did not win any election.
He's just a little turd that wants to impose fear to control his people. I say that instead of rioting, the people need to band together and
overthrow the idgot and the supreme leader as well. They need to take their country back as do Americans. We are in dire need of reclaiming our
country from the tyrants that are destroying it. Nobama is no better than GW was.
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 06:37 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
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First I would like to say I love Ahmadenijad. He is calm and peaceful and serene and has the spirit of the Lord in him...
Oh wait, that's Obama...
Let me just skip ahead in the 2008-2009 rigged election CIA program book and proper responses...
I hate Ahmadenijad because (insert mainstream media reason of the week here).
Thanks mainstream media...I hate having to think for myself!
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 06:57 PM by Terapin
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Anyone who has been following the events in Iran closely will have seen photos of the "Votes" that were recounted. Interesting indeed. The photos
showed New sheets of paper, flat and unfolded. Everyone knows that all votes had to be folded in order to fit into the voting box. This is ONE proof
of vote fraud in the recount.
A closer look at the photos shows that several of the votes in the image were written with the exact same handwriting. One more proof of recount
fraud.
The "Recount" was just more smoke and mirrors. The People of Iran continue to speak out for their rights to a free and open democracy. While the
Main Stream News outlets offer little coverage, the Truth is that unrest continues, along with protests and a great deal of online and Twitter
planning. Government violence against the citizens has reduced the number of people in the streets but it has done nothing to quell the unrest. This
is not over by any means.
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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:53 PM by PsykoOps
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drwizardphd: I think it is a testament that they were willing to listen to the people. They did far more than they had to. Now the losers just have
the live with what is clearly democratic leader.
Terapin: Source? And what other proof is there?
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:42 PM by Terapin
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The source of the Photos is IRNA the Iranian National News agency, the official government news. They posted photos of the Recount, and in the
official government approved photos you can clearly see that the Votes they were recounting had never been folded. They were all brand new flat paper
votes. A close blow up of the photos revealed that several of the votes had Ahmadinejad hand written in the space provided, but with the SAME
handwriting on several votes.
You can visit their web site and see if the Photos are still up. They may have been pulled when these obvious issues were discovered and pointed out.
You will also have to be able to read Farsi.
Mousavi has announced that they are going to release more information that also proves Vote Fraud.
You can get up to date information about current events in Iran at Why We Protests - Iran
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 08:49 PM by bluepanic
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According to what I heard, most rich, young, and well educated people elected Mousavi. But Iran has much more rednecks than US in term of percentage,
so I am not surprised if Ahmadinejad won. Just think why Bush was elected two times, lol
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 08:59 PM by Laurauk
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Funny that, they have said it is ligit when, those doing the recount were told to stop recounting eh, and also were told by the authorties in Iran the
case was closed on the elections.
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 11:45 PM by PsykoOps
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Cant find any such fotos. So it's just hearsay at least for now. Noone thought about saving the pics and posting them somewhere else?
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 06:01 PM by Terapin
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 08:35 PM by audas
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Almost EVERY western nation has acknowledged that Ahmedinejad won the election, almost every western poll showed that he was going to win prior to the
election and several western polls included greater margins that what he actually won by.
Mousavi claimed he won prior to Ahmedinijad - clearly provocative, and when he didn't win called it rigged -
So why is it rigged - because some people put their paper in unfolded - what a farce - absolute joke.
All evidence points to an Ahmedinijad victory, western polls and officials including intelligence also all recognise this fact - why don't you ?
The only issue at hand is the scale of the victory - and anyone who has done any research knows that the polls conducted prior to the elections
pointed to a massive victory for ahmedinijad - the only issue left here is why Mousavi is causing so much trouble and stirring up so much division
over the result - and this is where you should look directly to western influence - specifically the CIA spamming of SMS messages, facebook and
twitter - further the billion dollar war chest for MOK and special operations inside IRan aimed at disrupting the results as evidenced by Symore
Hersch 12 months ago and publicly approved by congress.
Further the dozen British and US television stations and DOZENS of radion stations beamed ILLEGALLY into Iran as propaganda -
Which part of all this dont you get - because these are the absolute FACTS and can all be verified and have been evidenced repeatedly by myself on
this website-
The question you should be asking yourself is why are you such a sucker for western covert operations ?
It has even come to light that Neda was shot by special operations from the US - how fast has this story been dropped like a hot potato -
IN fact you will notice the entire Iranian election is off the agenda as it becomes so embarringly obvious that the entire thing was rigged from the
west that they are back tracking and disavowing all knowledge - THATS WHY OBAMA NEVER ENGAGED !
The only people who are still flogging this dead horse are either completely brainwashed or part of the operation.
Will provide links to ever point and fact to everything I have stated here for anyone who wishes to challenge anything I have written.
For anyone who wishes to inform themselves a quick search on my user name will come up with dozens of links to all the evidence you need to educate
yourself on the truth of this conspiracy....
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 05:56 AM by Terapin
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It is clear that you are a shill for Ahmadinejad. There is evidence of significant voter fraud that is undeniable. Just yesterday boxes full of
hundreds of ballots were discovered that had never been counted. The ballot boxes were still sealed and had never been opened for the count. This was
witnessed by the international press as they were accompanying a cleric visiting his provence. ALL votes are supposed to be in Tehran yet these were
never counted and simply abandoned in the public library. The Cleric who is pro Ahmadinejad, quickly seized the ballots as national documents and
refused to allow anyone to inspect them. There are Photos of this event if you care to look. By law all votes are to be taken to Tehran for the
official count. These votes were simply swept aside as the outcome had been decided before the vote even took place.
You brush over forged votes with denial. If you knew anything about the vote process you would know that an unfolded vote will not fit into the ballot
box. All voters were given clear instructions about folding the vote in half to fit it into the ballot box, and to provide privacy on how their vote
was cast. Official government photos showing new and unfolded ballots proved this fraud and were quickly pulled when it was pointed out. If there was
no fraud why did they pull the embarrassing photos? How do you fit a nine inch piece pf paper into a thin five inch slot without folding it? Stacks of
unfolded fresh and new ballots were shown as part of the official recount. Several had the same handwriting. That is not at all a normal democratic
process.
People are being rounded up and killed because a regime is desperate to hold on to power. The events in Iran Today indicate a significant public
outrage with the vote. The people of Iran have the legal right to a free open election. It is guaranteed by their constitution. Members of the
opposition from various parties and candidates were prohibited from observing the vote, a violation of the legal democratic process. Contrary to your
statement that almost every Western nation has accepted the vote, the truth is that Amadinejad is facing increased political isolation due to the
voter fraud and violence against the people of Iran. This isolation is both from within, as many important political and religious leaders have
denounced the voter process and subsequent violence against the citizens, as well as political isolation from nations around the globe.
Your rant about the BBC is rubbish because even Iranian newspapers have been prohibited from reporting on the vote and public outcry. They have been
censored by the corrupt regime. Iranian citizens are being prevented from exercising their legal rights. There are thousands of Iranian citizens who
are sending out videos and reports on the events in Iran, through Twitter, cell phone videos, and internet streams, so that the world can see what is
really happening. Perhaps you should stop and take a look at what the PEOPLE of Iran desire, and not what the corrupt regime tells you the people
want.
There is an old saying in Iran that many have equated to the recent events there: A fox was seen running from a town. When people asked the Fox why it
was running away so fast it replied, The government has announced that they are shooting all foxes with three testicles. When the people pointed out
that the fox had nothing to worry about as it had the normal two, the Fox replied, They are shooting first, and counting after.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 07:45 AM by PsykoOps
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Omg you call that evidence of anything? Where does it say that the votes have to be folded? Infact it said in your source that some people folded. You
can see the top votes on the stacks, how do you recon the rest are not folded?
As for the handwriting I'm not gonna comment untill I can see something other than a match box sized image where you can't see anything.
You guys are so gullible. You're making up evidence where there is none.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 12:59 PM by Terapin
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I did not make up any evidence. It was reported on major news outlets directly from the Iranian government official news. The Iranian government
PULLED the photographs when the problems were pointed out. Why would they pull the photos if there was nothing to hide?
As for the folding, tell me please, how do you fit a 9 inch ballot through a 5 inch narrow slot without folding it? The official Iranian government
news showed STACKS of ballots and also showed video of them counting many many new and unfolded ballots. If you have problems with your inability of
seeing close enough, then once again I ask you to go and look for yourself. There are plenty of places where the photos and video has been archived.
They were also reported on by major international news outlets. You can take the photos and open them up in photoshop or another application and
examen them closely for yourself. If all you chose to do is watch censored Iranian news, then it is clear that you are not interested in denying
ignorance.
What about the four sealed boxes of ballots discovered yesterday that were never counted? Why were they never counted and why were they never sent to
Tehran as required by law???
Russia, and Putin in particular, has long been one of Irans strongest supporters. Putin just the other day refused to have a private meeting with
Ahmedinejad. He had meetings with the leaders of Afghanistan and Pakistan, but refused to meet privately with Ahmedinejad and only spoke to him
briefly with a group of foreign heads of state. Ahmedinejad is finding himself becoming increasingly isolated due to the obvious voter manipulation.
When one of his closest allies turns his back on him, the message is clear.
Perhaps you should be listening to the citizens of Iran, instead of playing arm chair politician and supporting a repressive regime. Ahmedinejad
stated in a national address that Interpol was investigating the death of Neda. Interpol stated publicly that there was absolutely no truth to that
statement. When the government begins to arrest and kill non violent protesters who merely want their votes to be honestly counted, then it is clear
that something has gone seriously wrong.
In the US one can demonstrate against the President, and during the Bush administration it was a common event, even going so far as to protest
directly in front of the Presidents private ranch in Texas. No one was shot, disappeared, beaten or intimidated by government thugs. In Iran simply
asking for voter transparency can get you killed.
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