Originally posted by davedat2
I have to say that i havent read every post so if i'm repeating someones material then i apologise.

The first thing that crossed my mind was that if these things are in the sewers (and assuming this is not a hoax of any kind) then what defence do they have against the rats that i assume also frequent those areas?

Having only a basic knowledge of vermin, but knowing a few of their habits, there is not much that the rat community will not eat but they do seem to have an almost psychic, or telepathic ability to communicate with their co-inhabitants. I wonder if this "organism" has any defensive capabilities and, if not, does it "warn" off predators in some way to save itself?

Just a thought. good thread by the way, very enjoyable.

Good point dude, but lets be fair - even rats have standards

Not to be disrespectful towards the lil booger but damn.. anything eating THAT thing needs to be slow-roasted with a flamethrower

if this is a tubifex worm grouping (skeptical.. but could be..)
they would be in theyr cyst stage... as for retracting from the light.. hmmm dunno
honestly it looks closer to the inside of a body organ when a camera is inserted than a tunnel...

Absolutely amazing find. This is the first cryptid that really has me stumped.

From the short vid, the camera found three of them in close proximity to each other. I would expect to see more of these creatures throughout the system.

Come on, can't someone that lives close enough just suit up and get down there to have a look? Please?

Shane

The first thing that crossed my mind was that if these things are in the sewers (and assuming this is not a hoax of any kind) then what defence do they have against the rats that i assume also frequent those areas?

Given the way it moves and the general 'squishiness' of it, I could imagine it sucking itself into the cracks and hollows of the environment, flattening itself out and getting really deep into the brickwork. The outer fringe of the creature seems to suggest it can anchor itself and possibly 'pull' itself around. It reminds me of something, but just can't put my finger on it yet.

Or maybe it can 'eat' rats?

Anyway all hearsay till a sample is procured. God I love Cryptozoology! Probably going to do quite a few posts about this one.

Ok after reading all posts about this strange matter, here's a scientific objective conclusion:

It's a swamp gas trapped in a small weather balloon, covered with standard sewer slime.

Here's a quickly written FAQ if anyone is interested:

Should a zoologist examine it?
Heck no, nothing interesting here since we already know everything there is to know about it. You can poke it if you want, though I know you're too lazy for that and have an attention span of a sedated lemur.

Why is it there?
It's eating food remains from the sewers, quite a normal thing let me tell you. We've seen stuff like this before, over 1 times in the past 5 years on interwebs so nothing unusual and spectacular going on here.

Does presence of this (thing) indicate a biological hazard?
Nothing that we're aware of. And we're aware of many things.

Is there a video evidence showing anything similar?
Of course, look for tubifex (no, not tubiflex) worms and bryozoans. You might at first think that those two organisms do not even closely resemble anything similar to what we're seeing in this sewer, but you're wrong, simply because... you just are.
Aside from swamp gas, there are speculations by leading biologists that this thing is a mutation between tubifex and bryozoan. Even though our specimen obviously reacts to the light and does not really like water strongly contradicts both mentioned species' behaviour, leading experts still think they're right.

What is that excrescence on the 3rd specimen in the video?
No one currently knows that.

Ok, is this just a really good CGI?
Well, if we put aside people's names and company names that are held responsible for the video, exact known location of it, and plenty of other obvious common sense facts - yes this could be a (darn good though) CGI.

Hmm, that looks like someone's bowels, you sure this is a pipe?
That is a good observation, small stream of water flowing through a perfectly oval hollow object does look like kinda organic. Even though there's rust everywhere and apparent crack in the wall, and other array of facts (read previous question) this might not in fact be a pipe. Either case, if it's someone's intestine then I would not like to be that someone.

Gosh, the 3rd one looks creepy... I mean it's almost moving, wtf?
It seems to be a reaction to the light, even though no worms nor bryozoans, nor swamp gases react to light this thing is. Current speculation says that numerous chemicals and toxins present in the environment caused our sewer monster to gain new features not available to his normal salt-water friends.

What's the conclusion on this?
What you're seeing is a mutant (kinda like teenage mutant ninja turtles) organism made of crazy crap-eating worms, unusual immobile sea ooze, swamp gas, weather balloon and your common household chemicals. As I said, nothing unusual here.

oh my god....

i hope they dont creep up the toilet some day :S...
when im sitting on it...

eeeew!

to be honest...this looks very strange/weird
like a living tumor...

Around the 0:24 second mark, if you look closely you can see individual 'worms' moving away as the 'creature' reacts to the light. Try focusing on one tiny part of of the 'creature' rather then looking at it as a whole. Looking at the whole thing at once creates an optical illusion that gives the impression of solidity.

I'm coming around to the idea of Tubifex worms. The only problem for me is that all the other videos of Tubifex worms show then constantly moving. These ones seem to be staying still until they are disturbed. But, still, the more you watch just one section of the 'creature' and observe how it reacts the more I believe it could be a mass of Tubifex.

Think I'm going to stop watching it for awhile. Got to cook some dinner soon!

I have to agree that the Tubifex theory isn't very convincing. In most tubifex "colonies" or clusters you can clearly see that it's a mass of worms and not a single organism. In the video it can be either - although I'm leaning towards a single creature. Also with a tubifex cluster there is typically one or two (or more) worms that is to the side of the mass (i.e. not part of the mass). I can't find a single solitary worm to the side of the mass. Another thing about them is that they like swimming, so we would typically see solitary worms swimming at the bottom of the masses where they are touching the water.

As for the bryozoa theory - considering the extensive variance in the species I'm willing to accept this as an answer. However bryozoa typically lives inside water, not above it...

The protuberance at 1:50... (the white object that sticks up at the top of the creature. It bobs up and down once or twice and then disappears underneath the mass again.) If this is part of the creature it may give a better clue as to what it is. It may however be a twig or something stuck underneath the mass that moves as the mass moves.

Compelling mystery.

Edit: Clarity


[edit on 1-7-2009 by Gemwolf]

I'd like to know how it can "react to light" considering that it is currently underground, and one can presume it has been there since it was "born" therefore why would it have photo synthesis if it is never in contact with the sunlight?

And that's how the ninja turtles are born.
Class dismissed.

Originally posted by Nventual
I'd like to know how it can "react to light" considering that it is currently underground, and one can presume it has been there since it was "born" therefore why would it have photo synthesis if it is never in contact with the sunlight?

Have you ever been stabbed in the eye with a sword?
Do you think you would react if you were?

No?
Swords don't exist, and nobody has ever been stabbed in the face . . .

[edit on 1-7-2009 by alaskan]

Wow, I am glad people are as interested in this as I was when coming across this video...

The one thing I would like to throw out there... what if the "it" was not so much responding to the light.. but more the HEAT off of the light.

If you notice it does not really start moving until after the light is shining on it for a couple of seconds.. plenty enough time to start heating up from an obvious bright light source.

Being that this is a 6 inch pipe, it would be hard for someone to get in there to retrieve one... but surely these 3 specimens cannot be the only ones in the area. I do think a thorough study should be conducted in that area though. The nearest large opening where that water is flowing to would be a great place to start.

jesus i have been meaning to post a comment since page 5 but keep getting side tracked with work or other chores. ok finally ready every single post. here is my take for what its worth.

Ok first off they dont look anything like the tubifex worms being shown in the youtube video. if that is indeed what they are then they have mutated.

im undecided on what the hell these things are but im sure of one thing my time spend on the #ter just halved.

that is the most repulsive thing i have seen since i saw George Bush try to kiss a baby.

Ok, 9 pages, read every post.

Now what's curious to me is that no one yet has pointed out that the tubifex worms as shown in the couple of videos here are clearly SEGMENTED. In other words, their bodies are composed of very visible, distinguishable segments, a bit like what you might see in a centipede.

But when I see the "creature" video, I don't see these segments that way at all, if I focus on individual strands of the new creature. They are much smoother. So until someone comes up with a video or pic of a real smooth tubifex worm variant, or better yet, a cluster of them that closely resemble what we are seeing here- I can't go for that explanation at all- and even more so when combined with some of the other observations here.

To me this is just the final proof that yes, we have had aliens living underground for millions of years. The reptilians have to eat SOMETHING ya know. And what better way to indulge themselves than lining the paths to their exit holes (our toilets) with food along the way? Thank God they're already full before they reach the commode.