New life form in sewers?, page 6

Originally posted by TwiTcHomatic
reply to post by T0by

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I think one of the main reasons why that theory is wrong is simply because there is a river of water flowing through the pipe. That would not be happening with any kind of scope work on the body.

Plus, the information on the screen of the video basically says where it is along with date and time.

Date and time can be added to any video to say anything.
The water flowing in the walls, is made to look much larger than it actually is. But from the size of the waves and ripples you can tell it's actually a very small body of water.

The speed of the progression through tunnels, and the way in which the camera moves indicates this is not human walking holding a camera.
It looks exactly like a camera moving through a small tube.

reply to post by T0by

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Of course it is not a human holding a camera... it is a 6" (inches not feet, from top to bottom) clay pipe. It is a remotely controlled camera on wheels that is used to look for structural defect in pipes of this nature.

These are used daily in most metropolitan areas to survey lines of this type. They also use this kind of equipment in oil pipelines because the fumes would overpower a person.

Its the same effect of using a snake cam to see what is plugging up household pipes that just about every plumber carries in his truck.

This is truly not the "inside" of a person. But we shall apparently agree to disagree

[edit on 30-6-2009 by TwiTcHomatic]

Originally posted by bigern

Originally posted by PowerSlave
Just noticed this video of these guys taking a shot gun to a couple of those Bryozoa

www.liveleak.com...

Got to love rednecks, "don't know what it is so I might as well shoot it, yee haw" These guys remind of my neighbors that blow away every living thing that gets in their yard.

They should probably fish that thing up and get it out of there as soon as possible.

Before you know it some hilljack will be trying to sex that thing up or deep fry it and sell it at the flea market for $2.50 a stick.

Anything can happen in Raleighwood

Originally posted by TwiTcHomatic
reply to post by T0by

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Of course it is not a human holding a camera... it is a 6" (inches not feet, from top to bottom) clay pipe. It is a remotely controlled camera on wheels that is used to look for structural defect in pipes of this nature.

These are used daily in most metropolitan areas to survey lines of this type. They also use this kind of equipment in oil pipelines because the fumes would overpower a person.

Its the same effect of using a snake cam to see what is plugging up household pipes that just about every plumber carries in his truck.

This is truly not the "inside" of a person. But we shall apparently agree to disagree

[edit on 30-6-2009 by TwiTcHomatic]

Didn't see that 6" thing anywhere. I watched it via another source before I came across this thread.

I"ll have to look at it more after work, I may change my opinion then.

reply to post by TwiTcHomatic

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Of course. Mr Hankey from South Park. Hi De Ho.

There are definite life forms down there. Just get someone to dig them out.

reply to post by T0by

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No worries T0by... I am quoting the Donrico from page 3.. "hey guys i actually work for the city of raleigh and can confirm this thing is legit. i don't know anything about it but did get an email asking if anyone knew what it might be a couple months ago. i never got the follow up so not sure what they thought / decided or if they took samples. it was in a 6" clay pipe under cameron village."

Which is usually the standard size pipe used for long distances with sewer travel here in the states... it allows "stuff" to move faster in the small diameters. It also facilitates easier fixes on smaller lines when there is a problem. Only once you start getting to viaduct openings do the pipes get much bigger to allow people to get into.

It is also why it says 6" CP on the video frame.



[edit on 30-6-2009 by TwiTcHomatic]

Originally posted by TwiTcHomatic
reply to post by T0by

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No worries T0by... I am quoting the Donrico from page 3.. "hey guys i actually work for the city of raleigh and can confirm this thing is legit. i don't know anything about it but did get an email asking if anyone knew what it might be a couple months ago. i never got the follow up so not sure what they thought / decided or if they took samples. it was in a 6" clay pipe under cameron village."

Which is usually the standard size pipe used for long distances with sewer travel here in the states... it allows "stuff" to move faster in the small diameters. It also facilitates easier fixes on smaller lines when there is a problem. Only once you start getting to viaduct openings do the pipes get much bigger to allow people to get into.

It is also why it says 6" CP on the video frame.



[edit on 30-6-2009 by TwiTcHomatic]

If it's real i'm glad it's not in the drinking water pipes. ( yet )

Originally posted by GioTheGreek
and I quote:

Thanks for the video – I had not see it before. No, these are not bryozoans! They are clumps of annelid worms, almost certainly tubificids (Naididae, probably genus Tubifex). Normally these occur in soil and sediment, especially at the bottom and edges of polluted streams. In the photo they have apparently entered a pipeline somehow, and in the absence of soil they are coiling around each other. The contractions you see are the result of a single worm contracting and then stimulating all the others to do the same almost simultaneously, so it looks like a single big muscle contracting. Interesting video.

Tubifex

Tubifex worms in wild

When I was younger, I used to have goldfish in an aquarium.
At one point, I started feeding them live tubifex worms, but I don't recall them ever forming masses as in the video. But, here's a video of some tubifex worms burrowing under sand:
tubifex worms in sand

Possibly, the three sewer blobs could resemble this organized worm behavior. But..
IMO, they're NOT tubifex worms.

The three blobs appear to have larvae or worms within their structure, but there seems to be another entire entity controlling the overall motion of the blobs, especially those tentacle-looking protrusions on the last blob that grasps then releases from the sewer pipe (the tentacles seem separate from the smaller worms or larvae in its structure)...whatever, yuk!

maybe some alien pets escaped from their cage, someone left the door open...and they prefer sewers...

Looks like a bio-enineered organism designed to consume/breakdown the sludge matter on the side of the sewage pipes. A biologically symbiotic organism. I'd leave the lil turdslugger alone. It means well. Unfortunately, this is probably a black project kept from public view for experimental reasons. synthetic life Now that this creature is being made public, there will be interest as to what it is. This interest will result in a public funded effort to examine it's DNA structure to determine which family it belongs to, breakdown it's evolutionary history to determine if it was possible for the being to have been bio-engineered or not.

If there is no progenical history of the creature, if it has no biological/evolutionary background for it's current genomic structure, then it is a bio-engineered creature built for a purpose.

Most likely it got a majority of it's DNA from this:
en.wikipedia.org...


though it could have been a mutation of the above. The mutation could have been caused by the smorgasboard of chemicals that go down the toilet. None the less, it would be interesting to examine it's DNA history.

The creature above has 'other' value as well.

Aplysia californica is a typical example of a sea hare, and is noteworthy for its usefulness in studies of neurobiology because of the unusually large size of the axons that are a part of its nerve cells.

It's a wild, wide world.




[edit on 1-7-2009 by Perseus Apex]

deepseanews.com...

Dr. Timothy S. Wood who is an expert on freshwater bryozoa and an officer with the International Bryozoology Association.

Thanks for the video – I had not see it before. No, these are not bryozoans! They are clumps of annelid worms, almost certainly tubificids (Naididae, probably genus Tubifex). Normally these occur in soil and sediment, especially at the bottom and edges of polluted streams. In the photo they have apparently entered a pipeline somehow, and in the absence of soil they are coiling around each other. The contractions you see are the result of a single worm contracting and then stimulating all the others to do the same almost simultaneously, so it looks like a single big muscle contracting. Interesting video.

Although I'll admit I don't think the two videos shown look that similar.
He's right, it does look like one single muscle contracting but I can't imagine them being single worms.

I think i'd prefer a different explanation.

Another explanation in the youtube comments section is

This is not an "undocumented creature". This is a rare mutation brought on by certain chemical compositions found in some sewers. They found these first in the 80's. Certain kinds of frogs who just happen to spawn inside sewer systems leave egg clusters that are infected with the various toxins of the sewer. What you're seeing here is mutated, birth defected frog eggs. The eggs will stop developing naturally, and will get stuck in the "yolk" state as they continue to grow nervous systems.

But that's a pretty weird explanation too.


Edit: On second thoughts, upon closer inspection I can make out individual worms. I think I accept Mr Timothys explanation.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by T0by]

reply to post by TwiTcHomatic

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Remember that scene in the movie Dogma with Matt Damon, Chris Rock and Ben Affleck where they are in the bar or a pub and some weird creature pops up and it is made of human waste or fecal matter?

I know Dogma is a comedy like directors take or version on the "End of Times", but everything in it is based on some true biblical part of the whole, serious or not. So what are these living sensitive life forms? In sewers, reacting to presence without eyes or any determinable parts?

That is what this reminds me of.

As far as Dogma goes - is there anything in the bible or Revelations that discusses a destructive force or entity created from man's own waste or fecal matter? I don't know so I am seriously asking. That is just freaky!

Since I saw Dogma several years ago this has been in the back of my mind. Lately I have wondered about this exact situation greatly for some reason, but with all the processed foods and destructive things they distribute for us to eat and the diseases running crazy all over the place. This is really freaking me out.

Sorry, I don't want to be descriptive but many people loose tons of blood every day on the toilet from different ailments. These things if they are real and living down there are living off us - our waste - all of it and that doesn't bother anyone.

What stage are they in. Is this an embryonic stage - will they develop into something worse? Questions I ask! Am I alone?

What sewer system is this from again? If this is real, it is time to look closer at what is happening around us, right now. What the heck is it?

[edit on 30-6-2009 by arizonascott]

Forgive me if someone else posted this, I did read the comments but may have missed it:

www.kdvr.com...


"DENVER - An underground mystery is over for the Crestview water system. In December, a robotic camera checking sewer lines for damage stumbled upon a green, slimy organism with tentacles that seemed to be alive. "It looked like it was hiding from the light," water system worker Randy Ferguson said. And the tentacles seemed to be staying away from the water. The discovery was made in a pipe near the intersection of 76th and Pecos. Ferguson and his partner Mike Parker asked the Colorado Division of Wildlife to look into the creature, because in 20 years of sewer work, they had never seen anything like it before. An aquatic specialist from the DOW confirmed that what the camera had discovered was actually a Bryozoan, a primitive life form that, as a species, is over 350 million years old. The Bryozoans are collections of smaller organisms that filter food out of the water supply, and they are an extremely primitive "animal" life form. Bryozoans aren't harmful, although they can occasionally clog water pipes. For now, the Crestview water system isn't going to do anything about the animal in it's pipes."



I must say that I have never seen the like. There does seem to be a lot of debate amongst the so called experts. I found the following comment to be very compelling; it was part of a heated internet discussion over this (?):

"You call yourself an expert on Bryozoans but avoid my simple question, why I wonder? I will concede that you do seem to know much on Bryozoans but having said that, why have you not been able to meet my simple challenge of posting another video showing the same exact type of Bryozoans as seen in the video, not some foolish Wiki entry or image that looks nothing like it?? You keep avoiding this very simple solution, which would end all debate on this! We wait.”

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