Originally posted by RogerT
I posted a year or so back to ask if ANYONE, ANYWHERE has ever prophesized any significant event, with verifiable detail, that has actually come to
I didn't get a single positive response.
Methinks you had a very poor and small sample.
David Wilkerson predicted 911, as did several others.
While I'm at it . . . Let's assume that the prediction has yet to be fulfilled at the end of 24 hours on the Eastern Time zone where my FR Bro
What would be my response?
I would be saddened that the prediction failed--in the sense that his usual accuracy would have taken a hit.
I would not be less admiring of his gifting.
Were he to make another prediction about private events in my life, I would continue to expect them to be fulfilled.
As he, himself, said . . . his accuracy is NEAR 100%.
I don't pretend to understand all God's doings by a long shot.
I have enough of a prophetic gifting that I know how challenging it can be to hear purely and report purely.
Sometimes God speaks loudly and clearly in the inner man. Most of the time Holy Spirit speaks in a still small voice that's quite subtle and too
often easy to find hard to discern between one's own inner noise.
I think my FR Bro has far far far less of a hard time with that than I do. But it's a common problem with virtually all those I know with such a
gifting. And, the more inexperienced and less mature; the more emotionally and psychologically UNhealed--the greater the flaws in hearing.
Again, I think my FR Bro is far ahead of the game on those scores in healthy ways--regardless of tonight's outcome.
I would continue to share plausible, probable predictions that I felt were significant, with those I cared about.
For some crazy reason, that includes folks on ATS, in spite of the high percentage of derisive naysayers with great hostility for my values,
perspectives and construction on reality.
It's quite fascinating to me . . . that the derisive folks so instantly given to great hostility and haughtiness about predictions . . . appear to be
the sorts of folks who make plenty of errors in several areas in their own lives, themselves. Yet, they seem quite eager to appoint themselves
prosecutor, jury, judge and executioner of others . . . when in all probability virtually none of them have ever had to wrestle with any prophetic
gifting at all.
Such duplicity about prophetic pronouncements and even about very human narratives sharing about ET experiences strike me as some level of
Thankfully, some of us will likely persist in throwing the predictions out there for whatever result. Sooner or later, the hit rate will climb rapidly
to 100% with some sources.
THEN we will be in a very different world . . . one the derisive naysayers will find extremely uncomfortable.
My best guess as a psychologist and as a Christian is that most such folks having such hostility to prophetic giftings and predictions feel such
hostility because they have a major authority problem big time. They may have suffered some level of emotional or other abuse at the hand of
pseudo-Christian parents or whatever such. In any case, for whatever reasons, there seems to be a significant level of rebellion against any and all
authority that would dare to challenge their construction on reality with a different one--particularly a different one having to do with the
supernatural and all the worse if it is "CHRISTIAN SUPERNATURAL."
That's my value system.
Those are the prophetic sources I most respect and most value.
Those are the prophetic sources that have saved my life.
Those are the prophetic sources that have helped me grow the most.
Those are the prophetic sources that have increased my confidence in my own gifting in The Lord, the most.
Those are the prophetic sources that have saved me the most grief in my life.
Those are the prophetic sources that have explained the biggest traumas in my life most accurately and most redemptively.
I will always respect folks of that ilk who are earnest, humble and broken before The Lord as is my FR Bro.
I suppose at some level to some degree at some point, their track record would matter if it was mostly wrong. I don't know any such person who fits
my criteria for the greatest amount of my respect who has a low hit track record. ALL of them have a high percentage of accuracy. I don't know any
who are 100% accurate 100% of the time in 100% of all respects.
I'm sure not. Yet, within some clear parameters, I'm a lot better than chance. And my FR Bro is a great deal better than chance.
That's easy for me to respect.
I don't, per se, ask others who are not Christian to respect such. I don't even ask Christians who can't wrap their minds around the viability of I
Cor 12-14 in our era to accept such.
It would be nice if folks gave such a fair hearing. But even that is between them and God.
It is merely my duty to offer such for consideration. Hopefully, for prayerful pondering and consideration.
Because EVEN WHEN SUCH PREDICTIONS COME TRUE, ONE WOULD STILL BE SUPER WISE TO PRAY ABOUT WHAT GOD WOULD HAVE IN TERMS OF THEIR RESPONSE to the
I have a fair amount of compassion and for some more pity for their stance and perspectives. That's because they seem so absolutely closed to "other
realities" that they appear to be highly likely to place themselves in horrendously untenable positions with no recourse but to suffer to the max . .
. and that unnecessarily had they only listened and sought God earlier. Alas, that will not be my responsibility. I will have done what I could to
have placed whatever warnings I felt responsible for before those I felt I had the least bit of access to or influence with.
So, their attitudes and choices as is true for all of us in life generally and certainly with respect to prophetic pronouncements . . . will have to
be between them and God.
One thing is curious . . . folks can post predictions from shamans, Edgar Cayce, Summerians, Mayans, Hopi's, chicken entrails, indigestion and 8 ball
games and it's all hunky dorry, cool, great to discuss etc.
Yet, when someone posts a prediction related to Christianity,j the claws, fangs and fire breathing comes out instantly and big time and relentlessly.
Why is that?