There Is A Secret War Being Waged In Space Yet We Continue To Debate The Existence Of EBE'S , page 1
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Topic started on 30-6-2009 @ 05:01 AM by franspeakfree
There is a secret war being waged in space and we are in the middle of it please wake up and L@@k!

This year there has been more sightings of strange craft than ever recorded, yet people still want to dismiss the reality that we are not alone in this universe.

The NASA STS-48 incident has always been of interest to me and I know it has been discussed before on this site, but without the couter professional backing from qualified professors, as this video shows.

I have never seen this particular video before on this site (only clips of the incident) IMO this video is incredibly important as we listen to both sides of the story, from Professors,Buzz Aldrin and Edgar Mitchell. Also I believe it is an old video therefore, from it, we can see how both Edgar Mitchell and Buzz Aldrins opinions have changed about the subject of UFO'S.

Nasa followers have always said that the object in question is an ice particle, however, this video blows that theory right out of the water. Not only does it offer scientific proof that the object is a craft but also shows where the streak of light (Weapons Beam Technology) may have come from.

Weapons Beam Technology Patent 4686605 incl,

1. Cause total disruption of all forms of communication over a very large proportionate of the earth

2.Missile or aircraft destruction, deflection of confusion

3. WEATHER MODIFICATON - BY ALTERING SOLAR ABSORBTION, ALSO ALTERING COMPOSITION OF THE ATMOSPHERE,

This patent was classified by the NAVY - National Security Order - 1987 (22 years ago)

If it can be proven that we (humans) have such a device that is capable of shooting at craft in space, then that opens a big can of worms, for instance, it would mean that not only is there is a group that oversees the design and manufacturing of these products but also there is a department set up on this earth that monitors ET activity and decides what is and whats isn't a threat to this earth IMO this is extremely worrying.

We all know that something is coming, its just that some choose to persue the truth, even if it means sacrificing certain things and others choose not to look so deep and decide to hover over the rabbit hole and look down. Of course others choose to turn a blind eye and shield themselves from the truth.

Each day we are gettiing closer to finding out that we are not alone and I personally believe we are going to have to deal with that fact very quickly because there are things happening out in space that are getting out of control (NASA bombing the moon) for example. NASA IMO is part of this fragmented EBE activity monitoring group and is way out of control and playing a dangerous game that involves us all.

Before you write me off, please L@@K for yourself the world is changing and we are in the middle of it, everything that is bad in this world revolves around MONEY and POWER never before have I seen it so clearly, and if I am seeing so clearly that must mean there are countless of others that see this also.

Once you join the dots its as plain as the nose on your face. Take a look for yourself.







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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 05:56 AM by franspeakfree
People on this site need to come to an agreement quickly about the existence of other beings in this universe apart from us. Then we can start talking about what is really going on in this world.

Take a look at this video, (Occams razor springs to mind)

HAARP Nature Modification Weapon! Project Blue Beam

HAARP homepage HAARP


HAARP stands for The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program. The goal of this program is to further advance our knowledge of the physical and electrical properties of the Earth's ionosphere which can affect our military and civilian communication and navigation systems. The HAARP program operates a world-class ionospheric research facility located in Gakona, Alaska.


HAARP FAQS

LHC LHC


Physicists will use the LHC to recreate the conditions just after the Big Bang, by colliding the two beams head-on at very high energy. Teams of physicists from around the world will analyse the particles created in the collisions using special detectors in a number of experiments dedicated to the LH


Do you honestly think that both these projects would get so much funding just to be used for study purposes. Please L@@k for yourself.









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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 09:40 AM by atlasastro
Originally posted by franspeakfree
There is a secret war being waged in space and we are in the middle of it please wake up and L@@k!
How is it a secret if all you did to find it is look at some sites and youtube video's?

This year there has been more sightings of strange craft than ever recorded, yet people still want to dismiss the reality that we are not alone in this universe.
Reports or Hoaxes? Facts or Claims?
What sources or stats are you using to back your assertion up?

Nasa followers have always said that the object in question is an ice particle, however, this video blows that theory right out of the water. Not only does it offer scientific proof that the object is a craft but also shows where the streak of light (Weapons Beam Technology) may have come from.


So where did it come from? Luke Skywalkers X-wing? Oh, I see......

Weapons Beam Technology Patent 4686605 incl,

1. Cause total disruption of all forms of communication over a very large proportionate of the earth But hang on, this is Earth based communication disruption. Where does the patent say STS mission defence weapon? If this weapon was used to shoot at ET's, was there a huge communications disruption over a very large proportion of the Earth?

2.Missile or aircraft destruction, deflection of confusion
Where does it say Outer space craft destruction, also as this is a patent, where is the working device? Sighted, working, shooting at UFO's?

3. WEATHER MODIFICATON - BY ALTERING SOLAR ABSORBTION, ALSO ALTERING COMPOSITION OF THE ATMOSPHERE,

This patent was classified by the NAVY - National Security Order - 1987 (22 years ago)

If it can be proven that we (humans) have such a device that is capable of shooting at craft in space, then that opens a big can of worms,
And here you are standing with a can opener kicking around half opened cans of STS mission and HAARP conspiracy spam?

So let me ask you, how did you get from here....
If it can be proven that we (humans) have such a device that is capable of shooting at craft in space, then that opens a big can of worms
to here....
There is a secret war being waged in space and we are in the middle of it please wake up and L@@k!




We all know that something is coming,
Yes, it is called tomorrow.
its just that some choose to persue the truth
That is quite an interesting comment. One mans trash is another mans treasure and all that.
, even if it means sacrificing certain things and others choose not to look so deep and decide to hover over the rabbit hole and look down. Of course others choose to turn a blind eye and shield themselves from the truth.
Really, in turning a blind eye do you mean to people that are claiming there is a WAR in space all from watching STS mission footage from youtube, scrapping up patents that have been flogged to death and making up stuff about what might be proven if you can find proof to prove what you need proven to back a belief you already have, rather than a belief derived from what you actually know and can prove? You mean that kind of blind eye turning?

Before you write me off, please L@@K for yourself the world is changing and we are in the middle of it, everything that is bad in this world revolves around MONEY and POWER never before have I seen it so clearly, and if I am seeing so clearly that must mean there are countless of others that see this also.
Money and power and the way it influences the world is hardly evidence of disclosure or that there is a WAR in space. The world is constantly changing. It is inevitable, it is not changing because of a WAR is SPACE.

Once you join the dots its as plain as the nose on your face. Take a look for yourself.


Really. It depends on how you arrange the dots, the dots you choose to ignore and the dots you add that arn't actually dots.
Sometimes, if you only ever stare at the ET related dots, you'll see ET related dots everywhere.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:54 AM by NephraTari
reply to post by Tryptych



I really wish people would realize how illogical that is. The Illuminati were a group bent on destroying organized religion which is the most effective tool currently being used to control mankind.
They are not the ones trying to control the masses they are the ones trying to FREE them.

Why do so few see this?



reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:25 AM by atlasastro
Originally posted by franspeakfree
reply to
post by atlasastro



I thought I recognised your name, having a look back through your posts you have commented once or twice before. Looking through your posts at random there seems to be a common theme.
That is quite amusing coming from you. You want to answer my post or start attacking me? LOL. I think the common theme you are refering to is questoning people who claim things. Apparently it happens quite alot here on ATS.

But I can play your game!
www.abovetopsecret.com... proof on this thread! Not.
www.abovetopsecret.com... you are trying to scare everyone about the coming solar cycle when in fact there is nothing to worry about.
Another STS mission done to death...www.abovetopsecret.com...
This one is 100% true AND genuine...was it is folks, smoke coming from a structure on the moon......www.abovetopsecret.com... you guessed it, Youtube. Once again another video that has been discussed but re-introduced again, by you.
ZZZZZzzzzzz, another STS done to death thread, again.....www.abovetopsecret.com...

All I will say is calm down, take a deep breath and look for yourself, don't go solely by what I say or any video found on YT trust what your heart says, and try to turn that negativity into something positive.
You mean that my argueing that there is NO SPACE WAR, is negetive and your belief is positive. LOL.
I am calm.
Because I don't believe we are shooting at ET's.
I don't go solely by your video's or what you say. I am looking for myself. Just because I don't see a WAR in SPACE does not mean I am not looking at the same things you are. Or that I am not looking at all.

"All you will say". You mean you won't answer any of my questions relating to your post.
Cool. I didn't think you would.

Always keep an open mind.
I really love how people say that, because I disagree with, I must need that advice.

I don't want hear advice about being open minded, just tell the truth. The rest will take care of itself.


If we are at odds, then someone isn't telling the truth!
Or not answering questions relating to their claims.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 11:39 AM by seagull
reply to post by fapython



Aren't you forgetting the most obvious fifth reason?

5) There really isn't anything going on, and it's overwrought imaginations seeing something that isn't there? It would hardly be the first time that's happened.

Seems to me, that if there was an "outerspace war" going on, it would be awfully hard to hide, especially if the Earth was in danger. Of the thousands that would know something no one with any irrefutable knowledge wouldn't come forward? No one? Possible I suppose, but seems unlikely...
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