my big problem with it being laser weapons firing at a ufo (besides the whole ufo thing) is that the flashes appear to originate towards the top left hand side just off screen.
the supposed laser comes from below. it doesnt match up for me.

and not only that, but laser weapons wouldnt have the delay between flash and the acceleration of the object.

im going to have to say its a particle blasted of into space by the thrusters

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There are 4 possible reasons that the Ma)or governments deny alien existance

1. To gain the technological upper hand above other countries
   
2. They don't think the citisens of their countries can handle accepting alien life
   
3. There is something big coming and life on earth will end
   
4. Aliens have infiltrated all positions of power on our planet and want to keep humans in ignorance for there own purposes.
   

This does look real and yes there really are secret wars waged in space(My belief)This video reminds me of the game spore and i asked my self,Why have they never attacked us?!Why don`t they let us take part in the war?! or simply,Why don`t they speak and talk to us?!Possibly because the human race is the lowest of the low and our technology is primitive beyond the alien`s power.And there are lots of cover ups for it.

Originally posted by mugen1005
Why have they never attacked us?!Why don`t they let us take part in the war?! or simply,Why don`t they speak and talk to us?!

Because if that were to happen TPTB will lose all their power and CONTROL over the masses. Dog eat Dog / King of the castle.

Then when the masses realise just how strong and important they are to this earth, they will vent their anger towards the companies that have enslaved us over hundreds of years.

I have always felt that the alien message would be about evolving: becoming smarter, tougher, faster, all around more evolved. Also it would be about "peace", because without harmony we would destroy ourselves, but I would consider the fact that they wouldn't use such primitive concepts.

I also feel that the fact of alien existance is held from the public by the same people who are responsible for the enslavement and brainwashing of the masses (Illuminati/Elite). If the message came through, it would mean the liberation of mankind and end of their control.

Of course I don't have any proof of this..

Originally posted by franspeakfree
People on this site need to come to an agreement quickly about the existence of other beings in this universe apart from us. Then we can start talking about what is really going on in this world.

I know what you are saying but I don't think we need everyone on ATS to reach an agreement that aliens exist: It is important to be challenged every day on every facet of information put forward as evidence.

It may well be that only with the input of non-believers will any evidence be exposed, scrutinised and accepted.

The fact that there are some that agree and there are those like you who keep putting up excellent posts like this one is enough IMO - keep it coming

Well, Tryptych - that, of course is a possibility. If that is true, though, and the aliens are obviously complying with this policy, then what does it say about their intentions?

Millions

Originally posted by Millions

Well, Tryptych - that, of course is a possibility. If that is true, though, and the aliens are obviously complying with this policy, then what does it say about their intentions?

Millions

I mean they wouldn't actually BE complying with it. If they are many times more advanced than we are, they would probably view us as we view ants. If that's the case, our behavioral patterns, social life, how we live.. would probably be quite simplistic (but still strange) to them.

Or, maybe they have decided that there are too many people on the planet and decide to wipe most of us off, and deal only with the elite.

Who knows. Maybe there aren't any, which would be even MORE strange.

looks more like a rail gun firing than a laser to me

Originally posted by franspeakfree
There is a secret war being waged in space and we are in the middle of it please wake up and L@@k!

How is it a secret if all you did to find it is look at some sites and youtube video's?

This year there has been more sightings of strange craft than ever recorded, yet people still want to dismiss the reality that we are not alone in this universe.

Reports or Hoaxes? Facts or Claims?
What sources or stats are you using to back your assertion up?

Nasa followers have always said that the object in question is an ice particle, however, this video blows that theory right out of the water. Not only does it offer scientific proof that the object is a craft but also shows where the streak of light (Weapons Beam Technology) may have come from.

So where did it come from? Luke Skywalkers X-wing? Oh, I see......

Weapons Beam Technology Patent 4686605 incl,

1. Cause total disruption of all forms of communication over a very large proportionate of the earth But hang on, this is Earth based communication disruption. Where does the patent say STS mission defence weapon? If this weapon was used to shoot at ET's, was there a huge communications disruption over a very large proportion of the Earth?

2.Missile or aircraft destruction, deflection of confusion

Where does it say Outer space craft destruction, also as this is a patent, where is the working device? Sighted, working, shooting at UFO's?

3. WEATHER MODIFICATON - BY ALTERING SOLAR ABSORBTION, ALSO ALTERING COMPOSITION OF THE ATMOSPHERE,

This patent was classified by the NAVY - National Security Order - 1987 (22 years ago)

If it can be proven that we (humans) have such a device that is capable of shooting at craft in space, then that opens a big can of worms,

And here you are standing with a can opener kicking around half opened cans of STS mission and HAARP conspiracy spam?

So let me ask you, how did you get from here....

If it can be proven that we (humans) have such a device that is capable of shooting at craft in space, then that opens a big can of worms

to here....

There is a secret war being waged in space and we are in the middle of it please wake up and L@@k!

We all know that something is coming,

Yes, it is called tomorrow.

its just that some choose to persue the truth

That is quite an interesting comment. One mans trash is another mans treasure and all that.

, even if it means sacrificing certain things and others choose not to look so deep and decide to hover over the rabbit hole and look down. Of course others choose to turn a blind eye and shield themselves from the truth.

Really, in turning a blind eye do you mean to people that are claiming there is a WAR in space all from watching STS mission footage from youtube, scrapping up patents that have been flogged to death and making up stuff about what might be proven if you can find proof to prove what you need proven to back a belief you already have, rather than a belief derived from what you actually know and can prove? You mean that kind of blind eye turning?

Before you write me off, please L@@K for yourself the world is changing and we are in the middle of it, everything that is bad in this world revolves around MONEY and POWER never before have I seen it so clearly, and if I am seeing so clearly that must mean there are countless of others that see this also.

Money and power and the way it influences the world is hardly evidence of disclosure or that there is a WAR in space. The world is constantly changing. It is inevitable, it is not changing because of a WAR is SPACE.

Once you join the dots its as plain as the nose on your face. Take a look for yourself.

Really. It depends on how you arrange the dots, the dots you choose to ignore and the dots you add that arn't actually dots.
Sometimes, if you only ever stare at the ET related dots, you'll see ET related dots everywhere.

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So why us mere mortals still debate whether theres intelligent life somewhere out there in the cosmos you have bypassed that question, and the following ones such as;
How do they get here?
Are they visiting earth?
Where do they come from?
What do they look like?
What is their agenda?
"I could go on!"
And you've gone straight to the evil aliens and the war out in space theory!
That's quite a jump. . .

Originally posted by franspeakfree
People on this site need to come to an agreement quickly about the existence of other beings in this universe apart from us. Then we can start talking about what is really going on in this world.

I really think we need to have a "believers section" on this site or something similar. That way we can move past the "is it real/did it happen?" stage which is really this sort of purgatory that most threads end up in, or both sides just get tired and the thread gets buried. Although I would like to see stringent investigation applied to every case, I think there are certain cases that are solid enough to be moved to a different section where we can stop debating if ET's/certain events are factual. Ideally these topics would need a majority vote to qualify. It'd be interesting to see what comes of that. Just a thought.

Originally posted by fapython
There are 4 possible reasons that the Ma)or governments deny alien existance

1. To gain the technological upper hand above other countries
   
2. They don't think the citisens of their countries can handle accepting alien life
   
3. There is something big coming and life on earth will end
   
4. Aliens have infiltrated all positions of power on our planet and want to keep humans in ignorance for there own purposes.
   

#5 Aliens Don't Exist



Have to cover all aspects

Looks like the Bird beat me too it

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I make no secret that I'm somewhat skeptical of this topic.

It seems rather self centered of us to think that a race or races that are hundreds of, if not thousands of, years in advance of us wouldn't/couldn't overpower us in a matter of days. The United States was only a few years in advance of the Iraqis, and look how easily the initial war was won.

I somehow doubt the Earth is that important in the Cosmic scheme of things.