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posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:53 AM
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Lately there has been A LOT of airplane activity in Canada. A lot more than ussual at least. In the southern ontario rigion, i see more "chem trails" (i have not looked into it to much, so i do not no what they are, only that they are caused by planes, and there is alot more than ussual!!) and in ussually unpopulated airports, like the waterloo rigonal airport in ontario, it has been very very busy in the past couple months.

What catches me by surprise, is that whenever i see a low flying plane, it is usually a green military cargo plane. I will try to get photos and post them, and if anybody knows anything, please post. thank you

Mod Edit: Removed all caps title.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by Gemwolf]




posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:10 AM
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Well I know that they're not chemtrails...they are just normal contrails. Chemtrails do not exist. Rather than repeat myself, Ive just linked the an older thread as to how contrails form and persist.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also the observations (from weather balloons/radiosondes seem to indicate its very possible for contrail development to occur.



PRES HGHT TEMP DWPT RELH MIXR DRCT SKNT THTA THTE
hPa m C C % g/kg deg knot K K K
385.0 7596 -26.7 -32.7 57 0.64 70 23 323.7 326.1 323.8
383.7 7620 -26.8 -34.3 49 0.55 70 23 323.9 326.0 324.0
380.0 7690 -27.1 -39.1 31 0.34 68 23 324.4 325.7 324.5
378.0 7728 -27.3 -38.3 34 0.37 67 23 324.6 326.1 324.7
367.5 7925 -29.1 -39.3 36 0.34 60 24 324.9 326.2 325.0
311.0 9095 -39.5 -45.5 53 0.21 70 23 326.2 327.1 326.2
308.8 9144 -39.9 -46.1 51 0.20 70 23 326.3 327.1 326.3
300.0 9340 -41.7 -48.7 46 0.15 65 24 326.5 327.1 326.5
290.0 9568 -43.9 -50.9 46 0.12 62 24 326.5 327.0 326.5


This is what I would expect to see, considering the weather conditions and location of the jetstream in Canada at present

weather.uwyo.edu...



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:28 AM
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Maybe I am just ignorant, or maybe I am just stupid. But I have seen trails from jets since I first looked up to the skys in the 1950's. While the conspiracist in me sort of wants there to be some reason for all my ills, what stopped me from being a supporter of chemtrails theories was listening to C2C with George Norry. One night he was talking about these little spider webs that form in the grass at night. He said they were from chemtrails,not spiders. But I have spent 40 years sleeping outside and when I wake up there are all these little spider webs with dew on them all around me, but not ON me. Um. wouldn't things dropped from planes also fall upon me? Meanwhile, these things have always been during my 56 years of life.
And then a woman called into his show one night.She described where she lived. Described the hill the horse farm was on and said the name of the town she lived in. Well, gee. She is just 3 miles from where I live. She spoke about all these crisscrossing patterns in the sky with chemtrails. Um. I live there. This stuff doesn't happen. Yes, there are a few jets that fly across the sky, but no grid pattern. Sometimes the contrails last longer than others. Nothing more to see here. It's just like I have seen since the 50's. Yes, there's more, Duh. More planes.

This woman was a nutcase as far as I am concerned. I am outside all day and into the night. There is no great massive grid created by jets. Horses aren't dying like she proclaimed. People aren't going to the hospital in droves, there aren't great, if any at all, numbers of malformed babies being born in the hospital, (I volunteer to hold newborn babies in the local hospital)


Maybe this woman is disturbed. And maybe I just didn't go outside on this particular day.
But it ain't happening here in Tiny Town.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:31 AM
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It's summer, airlines increase their schedules providing for more vacation travel at this time of the year. Not really a conspiracy IMHO, its been going on this way for decades, you just probably never noticed it before.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:33 AM
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the resident chemtrail debunker


how far away did you sniff this thread from?



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by Bachfin
reply to post by OzWeatherman
 


the resident chemtrail debunker


how far away did you sniff this thread from?


I didnt smell it....

I heard it coming



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:35 AM
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personally, i think chemtrails are complete rubbish.

Why would any government want to do this? If they wanted to poison us, or control us through chems then surely it would be easier to just put it in out water or food.

chemtrails hold no ground whatsoever. you release all these nasties into the atmosphere, why? so you can infect everyone on the planet, including the people who are behind it??!!! DONT THINK SO



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Well I know that they're not chemtrails...they are just normal contrails. Chemtrails do not exist.


wouldn't a normal contrail be a "chemtrail" anyways since it is essentially chemicals ?



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:04 AM
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reply to post by muzzleflash
 


Its not chemicals, its frozen water created by the heat of the jet engine.
The same thing as clouds.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:08 AM
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Can you answer why this was not the case in the past, and also why some jets still only produce the "old-type" of condensation trails that evaporate in a matter of seconds rather than many minutes.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:11 AM
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No it hasn't been going on for decades. The first I saw was in the late nineties and I'm no spring chicken. They were military aircraft spraying mulriple trails across the Northern Beaches of Sydney.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 05:41 AM
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I'm not sure if it is just my imagination, but for the last few months I have been hearing noises that sound like planes almost every night. I do not live near any airports and the sound is different from helicopters that I hear and then visually confirm during the day. But at night I cannot really see anything when I look outside, but the noises are distinct and seem very real to me. Call me paranoid, but it feels like something strange is taking place.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by Nineteen
reply to post by OzWeatherman
 


Can you answer why this was not the case in the past, and also why some jets still only produce the "old-type" of condensation trails that evaporate in a matter of seconds rather than many minutes.


Welln it depends on the weather. Sometimes conditions are favourable for persistent contrails, and sometimes they are not. On many occasions, contrails might occur at one such height, while not occuring at a higher or lower altitude, but agin, it depends on weather conditions.

A few members, such as Essan have pictures and video of contrails as fare back as world war two. The conspiracy of chemtrails has only come to light since the late nineties, and actually appeared on a certain well known radio show, which combined with the internet, fuelled the fire

If people actually did some research and investigated the meteorological science behind contrail development, then they might actually understand how contrails form and persist. As of yet, no chemtrail believer has done that.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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that is reasonable. biased and a blanket statement but reasonable.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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Well what about this little idea, maybe the chemtrails (yes I have seen the different types) are actually used to contain "aliens" in areas, like in MIB how the aliens were trying to get off the planet ...... well maybe these chemtrails are actually used for a reason other than making people sick, not sure I can subscribe to that theory, not that I would ever think the Governments would do something as despicable as that....

What ya think HUH is it possible they are "containing" something or someone (s)??



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:28 PM
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Im looking up, and all i see is a pancake stuck to the ceiling.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:39 PM
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CHEMTRAIL MEGA SPRAYER

Massive spraying over Summertown TN.

Filmed with Sony HI8 Video Camera, in "Night Shot" mode and 950nm IR lens installed.



[edit on 6/30/2009 by KAKUSA]

[edit on 6/30/2009 by KAKUSA]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:41 PM
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I live close to a base and also have noticed more airplanes in the skies all hours of the day and night. Helicopters too. There have been a few times I have seen two planes one right in front of the other circling above. They circle about 6-7 times then fly away. I don't know if I just notice them more now or haven't paid attention in the past.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 04:46 PM
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How long have you seen an increase in the military planes Gandhi? If in just the past week or so, it might be beacause Tomorrow is Canada Day, and many cities and towns across Canada have flyovers of military planes.

Just today I was lucky enough to witness a CF-18 and what I believe was a F86 flying in tandem wing to wing over Ottawa in preparation for tomorrow's festivities. Later in the day I saw a C-130 Hercules.



posted on Jul, 1 2009 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Well I know that they're not chemtrails...they are just normal contrails. Chemtrails do not exist. Rather than repeat myself, Ive just linked the an older thread as to how contrails form and persist.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Also the observations (from weather balloons/radiosondes seem to indicate its very possible for contrail development to occur.



PRES HGHT TEMP DWPT RELH MIXR DRCT SKNT THTA THTE
hPa m C C % g/kg deg knot K K K
385.0 7596 -26.7 -32.7 57 0.64 70 23 323.7 326.1 323.8
383.7 7620 -26.8 -34.3 49 0.55 70 23 323.9 326.0 324.0
380.0 7690 -27.1 -39.1 31 0.34 68 23 324.4 325.7 324.5
378.0 7728 -27.3 -38.3 34 0.37 67 23 324.6 326.1 324.7
367.5 7925 -29.1 -39.3 36 0.34 60 24 324.9 326.2 325.0
311.0 9095 -39.5 -45.5 53 0.21 70 23 326.2 327.1 326.2
308.8 9144 -39.9 -46.1 51 0.20 70 23 326.3 327.1 326.3
300.0 9340 -41.7 -48.7 46 0.15 65 24 326.5 327.1 326.5
290.0 9568 -43.9 -50.9 46 0.12 62 24 326.5 327.0 326.5


This is what I would expect to see, considering the weather conditions and location of the jetstream in Canada at present

weather.uwyo.edu...


funny how you defend chemtrails to the death and now its starting to come out in the MSN the new york times BBC and many many english and scottish news are now talking about it. Saying they are for our own good combating global warming and crap........ debunk that?



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