The "ignorant believers" versus the "godless evolutionists" is just one more trick being used to divide society.

A divided house is weak, and cannot stand against an oppressor.
The oppressors are afraid of Americans, so they neuter them by polarising all debates until they become shouting matches of sloganised hatred.

Anyone feeling contempt, bitterness or hatred toward those on the other side of an established argument like this is a victim of the elite's brainwashing, and is doing the elite's work of shattering the supportive structures of society.

Two-party politics, global warming, evolution, class hatreds, racism, abortion . . .

These are all tools of the elite, who saw how baseball could polarise a crowd, and then modelled social thought on every issue they could affect to polarise us into smaller and smaller subgroups, afraid to think for ourselves.
The internet is used to intensify the program, with websites full of smug and senseless "talking points" being repeated over thousands of pages of repetitively inane "debate".

Yes, there is a wise and wonderful god whose laughter is the underlying substance of our universe. But tell people with scientific minds that they can't both believe in scientific evidence and believe in a god that they happen to be unaware of, and of course they will reject god.

Likewise, tell people who have experienced god that evolution proves god does not exist, and those who have known god will close their minds to this branch of science.

We have done a lot of evolving to get this far. To keep evolving healthily and strive toward an ever greater potential we must explore all the exciting frontiers of science, while keeping our hearts open to any spiritual insights that may make themselves known to us.

I think - what bothers me most - is that most people who debate Creationism versus Evolutionary Theory do not have a firm grasp of either.

Please, people, educate yourselves on both sides of this argument before you go running into the fray.

As for me, one who has been extensively trained at a University level in the scientific method and in evolutionary theory, I firmly believe in Intelligent Design.

And this is after a thorough investigation of the evidence - before I attended University I was a Trans Humanist.

I would encourage all truth Activists here on ATS to thoroughly explore both sides of this debate before coming to a conclusion - just like we do with all issues.

Do not let your emotion get the best of you - but - at the same time - it is okay to recognize that Human intuition plays a part in all matters of Faith.

5 out of 10 Americans still believe a 2000 year old guy that preached meditation and reincarnation is going to come save them, even though it's clear his messages were altered completely 800 years later by some guy named Paul.

Yes, the majority of Americans are slightly retarded.
Does this really surprise you?

Originally posted by thegagefather
5 out of 10 Americans still believe a 2000 year old guy that preached meditation and reincarnation is going to come save them, even though it's clear his messages were altered completely 800 years later by some guy named Paul.

Yes, the majority of Americans are slightly retarded.
Does this really surprise you?

haahaha, that is the best post i've ever seen

this thread should be closed based on that statement alone

The Torah says before there was anything there was wisdom and all things were created by him. What is Wisdom. It is the plan put in place before the creation. The Design. This Universe was tuned for life. If this universe expaned any faster or slower there would be no life. It had one less element it would have NO life. If the earth rotated on it's axis any faster or slower, there would be no life. If it revolved around the Sun any faster there would not be life as we know it. What you people call evolution is really just the progression of the creation. The progression of the creation is described in the book of Genisis. Mankind existed before et ha adam, or the man. Adam was the first Hominid that God gave a spirit too. He was the next in Gods progression of the Creation. Thats why the Sons of God had to fall to earth so they could rule mankind. There old ways of ruling as the watchers of Enoch passed away with the creation Adam. Adam was unique and was to be greater than previous hominid creation and didn't need the ruling of the lesser gods anymore because he had a spirit which connected him directly to the Creator. This is why Satan corrupted Adam and his wife in the garden. He was jealous because his kind was not going to be needed anymore in the way previously. Thats why the sons of god fell to earth and corrupted them to make them covet thier flesh more than thier spirits so thier spirits would deminish and atrophy and then they could be corrupted and ruled over and the next step in Gods creation would then also be corrupted. They were out of a job they obviously liked a lot. comon guys wake up. Look around. How can anyone believe this all by chance? I know how. Those who do are still deeply in love with thier flesh and are afraid if they chose to believe in a Creator they will have to give up thier flesh and all its pleasures. Truly those that chose to deny the creator are extremely dead in thier spirit and have no contact with it at all. Because if they did they would know just by breathing that there is a Creator. This is where the false ideas of of many christian sects come, that once you open your heart to Christ he comes in. No, its an awareness of ones own spirit that comes in and that spirit is in direct contact with the Creator and when the relationship between spirit and ones flesh is nurtured, one begins to come alive to the greater Spirit and understanding of things that are and the understanding that we live in a facade of flesh centered reality created by the sons of God to lead us and the Creators purpose for us astray. There is no conflict between science and Creation Guys. The only conflict is in you and your desire to be independent of anything external. It truly is a very desire to be a god yourself just like the master of this earth and it puts you at odds with the Creator. Its what the fallen ones want for you.

Microevolution is plausible.

Macroevolution is bogus.

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Originally posted by Lannock
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What I want to be taught in schools is: We do not know how it all came about, BUT we have TWO main theories, Creation and Evolution. Teach them where these theories come from but also teach them that NEITHER can be proven conclusively. . . . .

That's like teaching kids in a cookery class - -
Good morning children.
Today we are going to learn about making pancakes.
Now first I need to explain that there are two theories of pancakes.
One is that pancakes are made by mixing flour, milk and eggs to a batter and frying it.
The other theory is that Mother did it.