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Originally posted by FSBlueApocalypse
reply to post by DASFEX
I welcome the links, please, PLEASE provide them if you have them.
Originally posted by FSBlueApocalypse
reply to post by DASFEX
I welcome the links, please, PLEASE provide them if you have them.
Originally posted by FSBlueApocalypse
reply to post by stuff1
You made the claim, and it's up to you to provide the evidence. All apologetics does is go "Ok, here's the conclusion, let's fit the facts around it." As for the wikipedia page, that's a 2 paragraph entry with poor grammar and no references.
Originally posted by Zeroh
oh, you people.
evolution is not how homo-sapiens came to be. random mutations aren't either. most people that argue evolution don't know the difference between analogous and convergent evolution. i don't feel like debating, so research up, mouth-breathers.
They have found DNA can actually communicate with other DNA from a distance like telepathy and have no idea how it does it.
Originally posted by PowerSlave
What is with the constant comments from evolutionists calling creationists stupid? Why such a strong desire to insult/put down people who believe in God? Does it make you feel superior to insult another? I am just curious.
Originally posted by DASFEX
If you are truly interested in the histrionics of the man Jesus Christ ...
Originally posted by bl4ke360
There still has to be something that causes consciousness, because what's the reason you're born into your current body, than some other body? Souls can be an obvious explanation for that, and evolution doesn't explain what makes us conscious and how we were born into our body.
Originally posted by PieKeeper
You sure were quick to jump the shark.
Evolution is not a hypothesis. A scientific theory can not be constructed around a hypothesis. Since evolution is an observable process, a theory can then form. Evolution is a proven process.
Again, your understand of scientific terms is flawed. A theory does not become a law. It can't. In science, a theory and a law are completely different things, one cannot become the other.
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If the archeaopteryx is a sham, then why hasn't anyone created a specimen to prove this? It has yet to be done, yet people act as if faking fossils like that is an extremely easy thing to do.
Creationists are so quick to call names and insult people.
I'm not a religious zealot.
Originally posted by Darth Logan
The body and soul of Charles Darwin's "Theory of Evolution", was his idea that evolution was made possible through natural selection. [I]This concept is based on the suggestion that those members of a species that are a little stronger, a little larger, or run a little faster will live longer to procreate offspring with these superior adaptations.[/I] Darwin's theory suggests that millions of generations later the changes will result in new species. These adaptations are called links or intermediates between the old species and the new.
The process of natural selection is NOT an evolutionary process. Although Darwin states it is a part of evolution.
The DNA in plants and animals allows selective breeding to achieve desired results. Dogs are a good example of selective breeding. The DNA in all dogs has many recessive traits. A desired trait can be produced in dogs by selecting dogs with a particular trait to produce offspring with that trait. This specialized selective breeding can continue for generation after generation until a breed of dog is developed.
Many different types of dogs can be developed this way, but they can NEVER develop a cat by selectively breeding dogs. Natural selection can never extend outside of the DNA limit. DNA cannot be changed into a new species by natural selection.
The same process of selective breeding is done with flowers, fruits and vegetables. New variations of the species are possible, but a new species has never been developed by science. Modern laboratories are still unable to produce a left-hand protein as found in humans and in animals.
Supporters propound upon the Theory of Evolution as if it has scientific support, which it does not. Evolutionists switch tactics when they are pressed against the wall with solid scientific proofs against the Theory of Evolution.
The human mind has a very detrimental character............, weakness. Humans would rather believe an error, for the rest of their lives than admit they had been wrong.
Originally posted by dotcom
What would you say about a grown man who believes in Santa Claus?
And we call them stupid, as there is no good evidence to suggest that a god even exists.
the only thing to back the claim is a book written thousands of years ago by people who wrote about a man that lived hundreds of years before them.
Originally posted by moobaawoof
haha!! DASFEX: you really need to look up the word "histrionics" in a dictionary.
Originally posted by DASFEX
If you are truly interested in the histrionics of the man Jesus Christ ...
haha!! the histrionics of the man Jesus Christ... I love that... that is classic...it's worth getting printed on a Tshirt it's so retarded....don't worry I'll cite you as the source for the quote on the back.
[edit on 2/7/2009 by moobaawoof]
it's worth getting printed on a Tshirt it's so retarded
Originally posted by dotcom
Originally posted by PowerSlave
What is with the constant comments from evolutionists calling creationists stupid? Why such a strong desire to insult/put down people who believe in God? Does it make you feel superior to insult another? I am just curious.
What would you say about a grown man who believes in Santa Claus?
And we call them stupid, as there is no good evidence to suggest that a god even exists.
the only thing to back the claim is a book written thousands of years ago by people who wrote about a man that lived hundreds of years before them.
Sounds stupid doesnt it?
Originally posted by PieKeeper
Again, I would like the article from National Geographic if you could please provide it.
If the archeaopteryx is a sham, then why hasn't anyone created a specimen to prove this? It has yet to be done, yet people act as if faking fossils like that is an extremely easy thing to do.
I'm not a religious zealot. Creationists are so quick to call names and insult people.
Human Ancestral Frauds
Haekel’s Forged Embryos
Fake Dino-bird Archaeoraptor
Miscellaneous Fakes and Frauds
Evolution
Home Page
In an attempt to further their careers and justify the claims that evolution is a legitimate theory, many scientists have fraudulently deceived the world by planting or reconstructing fossils which they would claim to be authentic finds. The most widely published evolution fraud was committed in China in 1999, and published in in the National Geographic
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Human Ancestral Frauds
Piltdown man: Found in a gravel pit in Sussex England in 1912, this fossil was considered by some sources to be the second most important fossil proving the evolution of man—until it was found to be a complete forgery 41 years later. The skull was found to be of modern age. The fragments had been chemically stained to give the appearance of age, and the teeth had been filed down!
Nebraska man: A single tooth, discovered in Nebraska in 1922 grew an entire evolutionary link between man and monkey, until another identical tooth was found which was protruding from the jawbone of a wild pig.
Java man: Initially discovered by Dutchman Eugene Dubois in 1891, all that was found of this claimed originator of humans was a skullcap, three teeth and a femur. The femur was found 50 feet away from the original skullcap a full year later. For almost 30 years Dubois downplayed the Wadjak skulls (two undoubtedly human skulls found very close to his “missing link”). (source: Hank Hanegraaff, The Face That Demonstrates The Farce Of Evolution, [Word Publishing, Nashville, 1998], pp.50-52)
Orce man: Found in the southern Spanish town of Orce in 1982, and hailed as the oldest fossilized human remains ever found in Europe. One year later officials admitted the skull fragment was not human but probably came from a 4 month old donkey. Scientists had said the skull belonged to a 17 year old man who lived 900,000 to 1.6 million years ago, and even had very detail drawings done to represent what he would have looked like. (source: “Skull fragment may not be human”, Knoxville News-Sentinel, 1983)
Neanderthal: Still synonymous with brutishness, the first Neanderthal remains were found in France in 1908. Considered to be ignorant, ape-like, stooped and knuckle-dragging, much of the evidence now suggests that Neanderthal was just as human as us, and his stooped appearance was because of arthritis and rickets. Neanderthals are now recognized as skilled hunters, believers in an after-life, and even skilled surgeons, as seen in one skeleton whose withered right arm had been amputated above the elbow. (source: “Upgrading Neanderthal Man”, Time Magazine, May 17, 1971, Vol. 97, No. 20)
Human Ancestor Fraud – Creationist Links
A Human Ancestor Fraud
Deceptive Fossil Interpretations of Evolutionists from the Muslim online book Evolution Deceit
Features of Piltdown Skull “Deliberate Fakes”
Human Evolution – Frauds and Mistakes
Lucy’s Fraudulent Fame
Orce man hominid fraud
Piltdown man fraud
The Ape-men fallacy by Malcolm Bowden (Review of book – Ape-men: Fact or Fallacy?)
The Face that Demonstrates the Farce of Evolution The following is a transcript of The Apemen Frauds portion of the audio tape.
The Piltdown Man Fraud by Monty White
The Story of the Piltdown Man by the Creation-Evolution Encyclopedia
The Yale DNA Hybridization Scandal – A UC Berkely professor reports on the intentional alteration of hybridization data which was used to support the theory that humans are more closely related to chimpanzees.
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Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny?
Haekel’s faked embryonic drawings
The theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860’s, promoting Darwin’s theory of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the embryonic development of eight different embryos in three stages of development, to bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great development in the understanding of human evolution. A few years later his drawings were shown to have been fabricated, and the data manufactured. He blamed the artist for the discrepancies, without admitting that he was the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, “Fraud Rediscovered”, Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51)
Haeckel’ Forgeries Creationary Links
Another Evolution Fraud Exposed
Evolution Fraud in Current Biology Textbooks – Haeckel’s Ontongeny
Haeckel’s distortions did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould
Haeckel’s Fake Drawings – Pictures
Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better Science Education
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Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis:
Fake Dinosaur-bird ancestor
The most recent and perhaps the most infamous evolution frauds was committed in China and published in 1999 in the journal National Geographic 196:98-107, November 1999. Dinosaur bones were put together with the bones of a newer species of bird and they tried to pass it off as a very important new evolutionary intermediate.
“Feathers For T-Rex?”, Christopher P. Sloan, National Geographic Magazine, Vol. 196, No. 5, November, 1999, pp.99,100,105
Interesting Quote – “National Geographic has reached an all-time low for engaging in sensationalistic, unsubstantiated, tabloid journalism” Storrs L. Olson, Smithsonian Institution
Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis Creationary Links
Adventist Scientist Comments on Retraction of Evolutionary “Missing Link” Claim
And now: Feathered Dinosaur Link
Another Evolution Fraud By Tim Friend, USA TODAY
Another Fossil Flub
Another Hoax by Owen D. Olbricht
Another ‘Missing Link’ Takes Flight
Another “OOOPS” For Science
Archaeoraptor Flight Aborted by John Morris
Archaeopteryx, Archaeoraptor, and the “Dinosaurs-To-Birds” Theory …
Archaeoraptor: Feathered Dinosaur from National Geographic Doesn’t Fly … IMPACT No. 321 by Steven A. Austin, Ph.D
Archaeoraptor Hoax Update — National Geographic Recants!
Archaeoraptor: National Geographic’s Biggest Embarassment by Craig McClarren
Archaeoraptor: Phony ‘feathered’ fossil by Jonathan Sarfati
Archaeoraptor: Some interesting points about this particular hoax
Crying Fowl: Tale of ‘Missing Link’ Embarrasses Scientists
‘Dragon’ fossils seized
EVOLUTION COVER-UP
Evolution Hoax The Archaeoraptor Fraud
Evolution: The Fraud That Shapes The Worldview of Our Kids By Bob Harsh and Chuck Colson. Origins Insights March 2000 Newsletter by the Creation Science Fellowship
“Feathered Dinosaur” Claim Apparently a Fake
National Geographic backs down – sort of! By Carl Wieland
National Geographic Gets a Black Eye
National Geographic Eats Crow
National Geographic retracts boast of dinosaur-to-bird ‘missing link’
Smithsonian criticizes National Geographic’s Dino-to-Bird Claims revealing the lack of consensus on the matter among scientists, despite National Geographic’s sensationalistic “propagandizing”.
Smithsonian critiques National Geographic in open letter archaeoraptor
The Missing Link That Wasn’t … National Geographic’s Bird Dinosaur Flew Again the Facts by Nancy Pearcey,. Access Research Network
The Archaeoraptor Fraud – by Charles Colson
The Archaeoraptor Fraud: National Geographic
The Latest Fraud!
The Missing Link that Wasn’t: National Geographic’s ‘Bird Dinosaur’ Flew Against the Facts
The Piltdown Chicken
Well, Folks…It Happened Again!
News Articles Published on The Archaeoraptor Liaoningensis Discovery
Second Piece of Fossil Forgery Identified Scientific American 11/21/02
Comparing Modern Birds with The Missing Link Fossils
FEATHERED CREATURES FROM CHINA BOOST DINOSAUR-BIRD CONNECTION
Flying dinosaur was mean, graceless: Fiercesome bird may have been first flying feathered animal to evolve
Fossils from China Link Birds With Dinosaurs
MISSING LINK BETWEEN DINOSAURS AND BIRDS FOUND IN CHINA: Dino Land Has the Full Story of Dinosaur-Bird Evolution and the Latest Exciting Development!
‘Missing Link’ Dino Actually Two Animals ABCNEWS.com
New Birdlike Dinosaurs from China Are True Missing Links
NEW BIRDLIKE DINOSAURS ON VIEW: COULD T. REX HAVE HAD FEATHERS / T. Rex mit Federn
Researchers find fossils of primitive flying dinosaur
Think of it as a 120 million-year-old turkey: Archaeoraptor liaoningensis may be missing link between ground-based dinosaurs and birds
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Miscellaneous Fakes and Frauds
Brontosaurus: One of the best known dinosaurs in books and museums for the past hundred years, brontosaurus never really existed. The dinosaur’s skeleton was found with the head missing. To complete it, a skull found three or four miles away was added. No one knew this for years. The body actually belonged to a species of Diplodocus and the head was from an Apatosaurus. (source: Paul S. Taylor, The Great Dinosaur Mystery and the Bible, [Chariot Victor Publishing, 1989], pp.12-13)
General Evolution Fraud Links
10 Notorious Darwinist Fabrications
Anatomy of a Hoax by Sean Meek
Dinosaur webcam pictures — fake, hoax photos and pics
Evolution Fraud in School Scienfic Textbooks
Evolution fraud in current biology textbooks Worldnet Magazine 2001 Exposed as fakes decades ago, major publishers still include them
Evolution Forgeries from the Muslim online book Evolution Deceit
Gaps in the Textbooks’ Coverage of the Fossil Record by Texans for Better Science Education
Forensic geochemistry solves fossil riddles ..Geological Society News – New forensic tools developed to spot fossil fakes.
Scientists behaving badly – Journal editors reveal researchers’ wicked ways Nature 3/4/2004
Survival of The Fakest Part I or Survival of The Fakest Part II by Jonathan Wells (PDF download)
Textbook Fraud: Inherit The Wind is intellectual pornography!: Full of Lies, deception and very anti-Christian.
Textbook Fraud: The Horse Series; Hyracotherium “dawn horse” eohippus, mesohippus, …
Text book Fraud! Video -& Documentation by Don Patton
THE CASE OF ARCHAEOPTERYX The evidence strongly indicates it is a fake
Archaeopteryx (unlike Archaeoraptor) is NOT a hoax — it is a true bird, not a ‘missing link’ by Jonathan Sarfati
The Rise of the Evolution Fraud Review of book by Malcolm Bowden