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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:16 PM by greeneyedleo
reply to post by ZindoDoone


I know you heard this (I assume on the radio) but if you could find a link for this, Id appreciate it. I know someone would be very interested in this - a realtor

In the meantime, I will search too.


reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 04:45 PM by MysterE
reply to post by greeneyedleo


Here's what I got....
Cap And Trade Details

It is ---> SEC. 304. GREATER ENERGY EFFICIENCY IN BUILDING CODES of thr Cap and Trade bill

It is alot of info to go through
Here are some of the parts that stuck out to me as I was browsing



3) VIOLATIONS- It shall be a violation of this section for an owner or builder of a building to knowingly occupy , permit occupancy of, or convey the building if the building is subject to the requirements of--

`(A) a State energy efficiency building code with respect to which a certification has been accepted by the Secretary under subsection (c)(2)(B);

`(B) a local energy efficiency building code with respect to which a certification has been accepted by the Secretary under subsection (e)(6)(B); or

`(C) a national energy efficiency building code adopted under subsection (c)(1)(A)(i) or made applicable under paragraph (1) of this subsection,

if the building was constructed out of compliance with such code.

`(e) State Enforcement of Energy Efficiency Building Codes


Tell me if i'm interpreting this wrong. It says it is in violation to knowing occupy a house that is not up to the current State Enforcement of Energy Efficiency Building Codes? So my house that was built in 79' now needs to be up to the code that is in place today?

And there is more, but unfortunatly I don't have enough time to read it all right now. I will have to do that tonight.

-E-

Edit to add:
I think the post at the bottom of the link puts it well

Retirement opportunity
I am nearing retirement and looking for the next challenge. This legislation provides the answer. I will offer my services to home sellers to find the most cost effective energy upgrades they will have to do do sale their homes. With the ratchets in this bill energy upgrades will be just like surveys and title insurance, an everytime costly add on.

I too hope my congressional representatives read and appreciate the impact this bill will have.


[edit on 29-6-2009 by MysterE]



reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 09:05 PM by mjfromga
reply to post by ZindoDoone


Hmmm...So the government can decide that the windows aren't as energy efficient as they would like and will make sellers replace all windows in the house. It can decide that the old-style roofs aren't energy efficient enough and make sellers put on new architectural roofs. Vinyl siding? Lack of attic fans? Appliances, air conditioners, furnaces all over five years old and not as efficient as new? Well, a house could be up to code, but still cost the seller tens of thousands of dollars in upgrades before selling. And this is supposed to help our beleaguered housing market how? It's one thing to require code violations to be corrected as there is a safety issue involved. But to go out and tell the public that their 20, 30, 40, 50 year-old houses need to be totally gutted and made new is preposterous. It's one thing to require new construction to meet these standards, but they cannot realistically expect all existing homes to retrofit.

[edit on 29-6-2009 by mjfromga]


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 02:40 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by greeneyedleo

It was read into the Congressional record. Just to show you how screwed this is. The only copy of anything in this bill was that 300 page Amendment to it. There was NO copy of the completed bill in the well of the congress as it should be by rules of congressional procedure. That one act should have disqualified this bill from even being discussed or voted on by these crooks. There is actually NO copies of the entire bill available to the public at this time so links are hard to come by. I watched it on CSPAN and no mention of a transcript as it usually is at the end of the segment! I am looking!

Zindo


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 02:45 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by fraterormus


That is true but if you presently choose to purchase the house without the improvements and do them yourself, it is still legal. With this bill they will take that option off the table and force the seller by LAW to make these 'GREENIE' improvements before you get the 'RIGHT' to sell! Those required improvements will be on a list of approved items and only those will be allowed!

Zindo


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 05:18 PM by ZindoDoone
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
reply to post by fraterormus

Those required improvements will be on a list of approved items and only those will be allowed!


Can't you just see the corruption involved with producers to have their wares on that list of approved products? Talk about a cash cow for the Criminal element that is running DC at the present time! I'm not just singling out the Dems here either. It's everybody in DC that will benefit from these ill gotten gains!

Zindo



reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 07:00 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by Oldtimer2


Yes, for basic soundness of the structure but this goes well beyond this and its mandated not voluntary between seller and purchaser. Most of what is inspected has to do with Green Tech and not safety!

Zindo


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