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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:18 AM by symmetricAvenger
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indeed its a no brainer...
its just people with no clue how our laws work.. they get all fired up for what?
some stupid news paper? who want to sell crap..
me and you both know the law mate.. we understand how the law works.. some posts on here just totally amaze me.
Just because they lack basic information its astounding
mind you being a rasict idiot comes with the job spec...
most people feel they need to protect there land! and all that is great about it.. well yeah sure we do..
but making religion some kinda target based on invalid information as you rightly pointed out is a joke...
you can smell it..
I have more respect for someone to call me to my face a Ni... than some dude in an office that smiles nice and does not give me a job because hes is a
gutless idiot..
we both know that type.. as shown on here
nasty insulting and very very crasss to say the least.. let alone the lack of education
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:21 AM by symmetricAvenger
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but ITS NOT THE LAW IS IT??
so what if they "THINK" they can get away with it???....
stop being scared of a few crackers
I am proud to call my self English more so because i understand my history and further more..
we have come along way to make our country FREE from idiots who wish to impose crap like sharia law
ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
NO WAY WILL ANY SHARIA LAW BECOME LAW IN THE UK
EVA
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:28 AM by Freeborn
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Then if you know history and law you will also understand precedence!
You are right, this is not law...yet.
And it still does not excuse the barbaric way women are treat in these Arbitory courts.
Evidence has already been given showing that 'undue pressure' is put on women to agree to Sharia and it's judgements.
Also look at Islam, it states that Muslims MUST work towards imposing Sharia upon us all, by any means possible.
They will work and work and try to do so.
They have to.
At what point will you resist it?
I say now, before it get's worse and the fight get's more bloody.
Nip this evil in the bud now.
We need one law, fair and just, for all!
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:31 AM by poet1b
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Great posts once again man. I think you nailed it with this paragraph.
I personally am agnostic and consider organise religions to be the bane of mankind. But the extreme forms of Islam which is advancing upon us
all is particularly brutal, barbaric, uncompromising and unforgiving and is the single biggest threat to freedom we face. Freedom of choice, freedom
of will and freedom of thought are the antithesis of Islam. Sharia governs every single aspect of a Muslims life. There can be no compromise at all.
I would say that France is making some of the right steps in the right direction. Outlawing Burqas would be a good thing for Britain as well.
Including outlawing the head dress in school. Muslims boys who harass girls about how they dress should be separated from the general school
population, and sent to strict schools where they teach them to respect girls and women.
If we educate the girls and teach them their rights, they won't be having four and five babies each. The whole birth rate race is the Muslim plan,
and flooding the world with people is not the answer.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:31 AM by symmetricAvenger
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Not all Muslims are terrorists, but the majority of today's terrorists are Muslim...a cliche, but true.
Really? and why is that i wonder?
Like the IRA or ETA or some other nut creation of wanting something?
you try and equate peoples rights with the law of this land and its pathetic...
more so because you never heard of them be for 9/11 did you?
was you worried when the same people who you fear was hired by the CIA to fight the russians in afganistan when the IRISH form the NORTH of iraland
was blowing the crap out of london and indeed nearly killed maggy thatchur?
wat was u ranting about then? please tell me?
its called FABRICATION understand that?
the only reason why your whining about muslims is because the powers that be needs a scape goat so they could go into a war for OIL AND POWER
.... some people really have no clue what so ever..
Oh most sheep are white lets lable all the black ones as evil.. its totall nonsens
Let me tell you AGAIN...NOT ONE LAW HAS BEEN PASSED AND WILL NOT BE PASSED TO MAY SHARIA LAW LAW IN THE UK..
why?
human rights act ..WE FOLLOW THE LAW i suggest you READ IT
it helps when trying to argue a case based on fear and biggorty..and just being uneducated
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:39 AM by Freeborn
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Thanks, it is good to see that some people understand my viewpoint.
I agree, France are making great strides in addressing the issues they face and I wish we would follow their lead.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:40 AM by symmetricAvenger
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why? thats a joke... one rule for all?? look mate no offence but you sound like a bloody nazi..
People are free to practice what faith they want its a god given right.. and in the comment you liked
advancing upon us?? wtf?? like its some tidle wave of nutty muslims all try to take over the world.. Dont be so daft...
not one law in ENGLAND has been passed for islam.... the only reason france passed it is because they are stupid.. and want to take controll of your
life
only 30 years ago people in france still got the heads chopped off
i find that 1 funny and 2 hypercricatl
thats why we cant stand the frence arrogant sly little idots.. and we should know we have been to war with them enough times
french? pft keep ur ohh lalalalalaaaa
with out us brits they would speaking german cheeky gits
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:46 AM by Laurauk
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I would have to disagree with you , Muslim terroists were well known before 9/11. Uss Cole Attack, Military Bases attacked well before 9/11. Yes
they were known about.
Can I also point out it was not just London which was the target of the IRA, Manchester and other areas bothin England And nothern ireland were
targets. SO no i do not think, this is scaremongering.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:46 AM by symmetricAvenger
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what you mean a totalitarian state?
what next? no crosses. no head dresss you all have to just walk about like mindless drones in fear that you cant express your own faith
wtf ????
that's Nazi stuff mate.. next thing you know u will all be waring a uniform just to conform
i like diversity and cultures mate..you on the other hand fear them...as you posts show
and i think your racist without even knowing it .. and that is the sad part
if someone stop you from waring the choice of cloths you like.. would you like that???
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:51 AM by Laurauk
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Oh ho ho, you have just hit a nerve here Poet. Educate Girls?? What about educating both sexes on how to use contraceptive. This is just not one
sided you know. If boys or young men were to keep thier Manhoods zipped up, then Girls would not be getting pregnant in the first place.
Put all the blame on us females why dont you!!!
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:52 AM by Freeborn
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Sorry, but I'm getting sick of posting the same old things.
The sun is high in the sky and after an all too rare afternoon off I am going to sample the delights of my pub!
For the last time.
I oppose repression and the restriction of the few freedoms we do have.
I despise terrorism of all kinds, be it IRA, UDA, Al-Qaeda, Red Brigade, UniBomber, etc.
I dislike all organised religions.
I couldn't give a toss about a person's race or ethnicity.
I don't dislike Muslims at all.
I do have a major dislike of Islam due to it's barbaric, repressive and brutal nature.
I oppose Sharia Law because it is repressive and contrary to my belief in freedom of choice, will and thought and is unequal in it's treatment of
women.
I also think, because of the teachings of Islam, that 'precedence' will be used to try and justify using Sharia in British Law and that adherents of
Islam will continue to try and force Sharia upon us all as it is a basic part of their faith that they MUST do so.
Pretty simple.
I'm going for quite a few pints now!
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:52 AM by symmetricAvenger
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Im sorry you disagree but the amount of bullsh1t being thrown about on here about misconceptions of the law of tha land are indeed amazing
did you see any alerts in the UK? do you know how many times the UK was BLOW UP by the IRA... ??
did you notice they STOPPED after the BUSH and the neo-cons who are Nazis left office??
bin larden worked for the USA ..do you dispute that? do you dispute that the USA sold arms to sadam??
its called being brainwashed.. and yeah i agree some idiots think osama is god to them.. but they are just as stupid as the idiots who think islam is
going to take over the uk..
we both agreed on womens rights .. but using fear tactics like its some fox news mini show with talking heads who talk compleat bollox is another
thing
this is england not the usa darling.... been around way longer than the usa
they are the new kid on the block.. and if we can ditch the pope muslims .. pft not a chance in hell
be for any law for sharia law passes there would be a revolt on the streets..and ill be one of them
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:55 AM by Freeborn
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But that's what Sharia wants to do to you...it want's to control every aspect of ALL of our lives.
Yet you support it?
A tadge contradictory methinks.
Ciao, pint of Magnet allready lined up on the bar for me.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:56 AM by symmetricAvenger
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I do have a major dislike of Islam due to it's barbaric, repressive and brutal nature.
like i said read your history books mate... we use to burn people and chop off heads and gurrot people
its kinda like calling the kettle black
this aint the 12 century mate its the year 2009 most people have brains
not blind faith in god..
god is the problem.. i will agree with you
but you cant force people to be drones for the system mate.. why?
because if people like you had there way we would all have chips on our ass and walk around all dressed the same..
aint going to happen mate.. be free not controlled..
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 09:56 AM by Laurauk
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Seen enough reported on the news during the ira bombings to know there were alot. Just have to remember the omah bombings even that was horrific
enough.
I am not disputing that Bin laden was not supported by the US, but to say they were not known before 9/11 is false. Another thing I nevr said that
this country was like the USA.
The IRA has not stopped, remember right it split, There is still the Continuety or the real IRA, which is still a threat, to say it has stopped is
also wrong.
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:08 AM by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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Symetric.... You are a tad contradictory if ya don't mind me saying so.....
We have seen from recent events in Iran what opression can lead to.... now i'm not saying that this country will ever be run by muslims because it
won't.... what i'm saying is the rules and laws of those country's are not what we want here..... i would also say that most immigrants from Iraq
or Iran or whatever escaped for a reason and that was to get away from those laws & rules!!! I'm pretty sure most women in this country would want to
be rid of those burqas but because of the pressures of their families they are being forced to wear them from a young age!!!
Maybe if these Muslims did not wear their dresses and burqas over here things could be different but as it is it seperates us from them..... that's
about it....
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:10 AM by symmetricAvenger
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i know what you mean but the hystira about muslims is not fair..yes evey religon is full of bollox..
but its not our choice.. i dont have any faith what so ever..so i can understand your points but i also understand minipulation propgander and how the
goverments of the day will use any issue to brain wash the population for the need the sheep more than we need the wolfs
its about brainswashing people...
Read art of war
you will know what im talking about
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:12 AM by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:14 AM by symmetricAvenger
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thats what my point is!! the law is for everyone i sure as hell don't want sharia law and im sure many other don't..
But the courts are not LAW they only work with faith... its not law
as i stated to lauran who made a valid point about woman's rights.. its up to them.. if they wish to use the "real" legal system..
we cant force people..i know i don't want to be forced ever to do something against my free will.
sad thing is religion just like money is a form of control i think we can both agree on that.

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reply posted on 4-7-2009 @ 10:15 AM by symmetricAvenger
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yeah i know i wrote em
but who is the doing the controlling?
that is my point and its not some nutty shake / cleric in England mate
we have parliament...
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