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Britain has 85 sharia courts: The astonishing spread of the Islamic justice behind closed doors

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posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 07:21 AM
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reply to post by Laurauk
 


you are correct.. but at the same time thats not British law...I mean yes we do have faith based courts but they still have to abide by british law..

If some poor woman is being abused by her other half for what ever reason they can just go the police station and do what the other 57 million other brits do..

most are to scared to question the faith.. but thats not our falut.. its down to them..

most people on this planet do not have a religion what so ever.. we just watch the nutters running about screaming gods name and making our life joke.. in loads of ways

everyone has some gripe or another its never going to be perfect...

but as i stated about the OP

no law what so ever has been passed to create ANY law for sharia or whatever ...

we cant force people to not belive in god.. we can only acomadate. and help with laws that we have for everyone!

i know its silly and well yeah its sillyy.. but its worked for a long time

any in justice should always be dealt with

but lets face it... gods the problem not the law




posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 07:30 AM
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reply to post by Mogget
 


its not a 2 tear system ITS VOLUNTARY

ITS NOT LAW.... ITS FAITH BASED OUTCOMES.

(adds sware words lol_)

they are overseen by the LAW of england.. they cant go round lobbin peoples heads off chopping off body parts marrying 2000 women or stoning some poor women for god knows what

ITS A LOAD OF SHT!!

please please get educated ... i mean you LIVE here right? what on earth did they teach you about polotics i have no clue

do me a favour READ or take the time to UNDERSTAND THE LAW


and i state for the last time NOT ONE LAW HAS BEEN PASSED TO MAKE ANY SHARIA LAW LEGAL IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

.. how hard is that to understand?????????

its basic racist idiots with no clue and its nasty undertones and suttleness that makes me want to vomit

more so when i see it on ATS were people are mean to have open minds

pffft.. its like a hate fest for idiots anonymous..



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger
they can wish all they want mate


aint going to happen

Why? Because you say so. I'm sorry and I mean no disrespect, but you and a lot of Europeans need to pull your heads out of the sand quick-sharp. Just because it seems too incredible that Islam might one day dominate Britain and Europe, does not mean it won't happen. As I've shown, current figures indicate that it most certainly IS going to happen? Or are you planning on taking up arms to prevent it?



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by symmetricAvenger


oh and by the way not every muslim is a practicing muslim



Then they are no longer a Muslim and are liable to punishment of death according to Sharia Law.

Apologists are focussing on the arbitration aspects rather than the brutal, backwards, discriminatory details that is Sharia.

Surely even the most PC driven Islam apologist can see that once people are accustomed to Sharia then Muslim extremists will start implementing more and more aspects of this barbaric code.
It is indeed the thin end of the wedge.
Muslims HAVE to work towards imposing Sharia upon us all, by any means!

We must resist this at all costs.

Again:
One law, fair and just, for all.

Pretty simple really.



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:04 AM
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Freeborn, as usual you never let facts get in the way of your opinions. I suppose there are benefits to the Bush era bigotry being allowed to vent its fury. For decades AfroAmericans have been telling the world of their suffering at the hands of bigoted hate merchants. Now these same barbarians are targeting a world religion.

I hope people around the world see this and decide to take appropriate action to deal with these criminals.

[edit on 083131p://am3119 by masonwatcher]



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:26 AM
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no offense taken..but let me remind you of your own history


we created you... when the native people of the united states came up against us so called Europeons
we took over why?

well our history is longer....

you talk about 2 world wars... we was having wars be for the USA was even on the map


we can deal with a few nut jobs.. like i said...its not going to happen.. just because people fear others aint going to stop our voice "the majority" from speaking..

we want a free society, not some rules for some and rules for others based on FEAR

that is a fox news trick that got you into iraq

notice any aber green yellow on fox? notice any terror alearts?

funny how that stopped when bush left office dont you think?

i do....i find it suspect.. just because people are sheep...

your talking to a wolf not a sheep



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:27 AM
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You speak of Bush and AfroAmericans.
Exactly where is the relevance.

This is a forum discussing Sharia courts in Britain!

Areas of this country are becoming no go areas for non-Muslims, (with Police turning a blind eye, oh how different it would be if non-Chriistian no-go areas were set up, but I suppose that is another arguement).
That is a FACT.

Muslims are the largest growing population group in the UK and if current growth and immigration levels continue will outnumber indigenous peoples.
That is a FACT.

According to the Koran, ALL Muslims must seek to impose and obey Sharia Law, wherever they live, by any means possible even if this involves deceit etc.
That is a FACT.

Sharia Law is barbaric and brutal and treats women unequal to men.
That is a FACT.

In areas where Sharia is practiced undue pressure is exerted upon women to agree to Sharia Law and it's judgements.
That is a FACT.

Do not speak to me about FACTS and Islam in my country.

I witness positive discrimination and people bending themselves over backwards to make excuses for Islam and it's evil's and I personally have had enough.
If they want Sharia, emigrate somewhere that practices it.
Pretty friggin simple!

I personally am agnostic and consider organise religions to be the bane of mankind.
But the extreme forms of Islam which is advancing upon us all is particularly brutal, barbaric, uncompromising and unforgiving and is the single biggest threat to freedom we face.
Freedom of choice, freedom of will and freedom of thought are the antithesis of Islam.
Sharia governs every single aspect of a Muslims life.
There can be no compromise at all.

If you have studied Islam and or The Koran or just Sharia alone you would understand that Muslims can not be content with just Arbitory courts, it is a basic and unconditional part of Islam that Muslims MUST try to impose Sharia wherever they live, by any means possible.


[edit on 4/7/09 by Freeborn]



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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well said !

man i love ur posts



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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reply to post by Freeborn
 


scape goats and fear.. for an agender that comes from bigotry...and stupid people..

kinda simple if you read what he says...



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:34 AM
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you may be correct.. BUT ITS NOT LAW IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

?

so what is your point?

women get paid less then men... you going to shout about that? is that islamic??

no its not

so stop with the sillyness....

its about being labled just because they are muslims / terroists.. its dumb

did you give a rats about the UK when we getting blown up by so called christans?

did we have terror alearts?

ever here of propogander and being brainwashed?

i hope so.. coz your a prime example of it..

and my I point out half the things you know and do came from islam

like the number 0

stop being narrow minded and watching fox news and listing to idiots who have no clue of history what so ever...



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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Do you know how many muslims are in the house of parliment?

seen as you know THE LAW.. tell me?

or go look it up...

fear mungering sells papers..wake up

You worry about religion? you use the other biggest scam its called MONEY

do not see you ranting and raving about being a slave to the people who print it

i think you need to adjust your outlook my friend we have bigger fish to fry than people who are racsit stupid people...



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:44 AM
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haha spot on

stared!



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:44 AM
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Like i said before i am living in England and have been since birth and i have seen a massive change in this country over the last 10, 15 years.... i'm not being rascist when i say this but where i live hardly anyone speaks English anymore.... so you can see where it's heading if things continue as is.....

first we had the halal meat everywhere (which is not what i want) but it's in a lot of these take outs now and I was and am happy with british meat!
Second we had the mosques popping up everywhere (which again i and many others don't want).
And now we have this knowledge of Sharia courts opperating in the country! (Again we do not want or need it here)

This is England and so if there is going to be any rules it should be the English rule!!!!

Like others have said you can't have a set of rules/laws for one people and another set of laws/rules for another people living in the same country..... simple as that



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:46 AM
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Bollocks.

I follow no agenda and make up my own mind based on things as I see them and as free as anyone can be from any type of conditioning.

That I disagree with you does not make me any more or less reasoned or aware.

I simply disagree.



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:50 AM
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and half the birts infest spain every summer...cmon mate

how many english people go to spain to live?

we live on a ROUND planet.. do you think its always going to just stay the same???

people move here because its a great county and im very proud of this place i call home..if i wasnt i would move..its simple

i mean look at the USA... they are a nation of imagrents..

fear can be a bitch.. more so when you lack basic understand of the law and culture...

The uk is going to be over run and be turned into an islamic state

that my friend is called FEAR




posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:55 AM
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and you are free too... because if you lived in iran im guessing you wouldnt be

and you wonder why people love living here... it works both ways

everyone is FREE to practice there FAITH... not ONE faith but ALL faiths

prince Charly IS the defender of ALL faiths... but then i guess you knew that since we seperated church and state when we got rid of the pop and heresy?

Or you can look over the channel very simple really....

We all follow the same LAW. being scared of some actions that happen in OTHER places NOT here...

is no reason to be scared.. I will not allow ANY one FAITH to rule over me

and im sure you wont

we are the majority..

its like fox news on here sometimes... just talking heads and talking points from people who have NO CLUE what they are on about...

not one law has been passed and the courts you speak about HAVE NO POWER what so ever....

they are overseen by OUR HOUSE OF PARLIAMENT.. you know the idiots we elect...

and then any law that is put on the books has to go to the house of lords

im sure your aware of this?



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 08:58 AM
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but it is english law ??

what part of this do you not understand??

WE ALLOW THEM UNDER BRITISH LAW TO ...oh why bother its like talking to a wall..



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 09:02 AM
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Actually my comment is highly relevant. You are the one that is bringing unrelated issues. This is about arbitration not the take over of a judiciary system. Further more you continue to elaborate upon your prejudices as if it fact and continue to engage in a discourse based on it.

The experience of bigotry and racism in the US has established an infrastructure of hate to the extent that any old meat can be hung a processed through it. In this case it is Islam. In the next decade it will probably be the Chinese or the Indians.



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 09:06 AM
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and half the birts infest spain every summer...cmon mate


Over a million reside in Spain on a permanent basis. The population of Spain is about 27 million. This does not include the several hundred thousands that go there on vacation.



posted on Jul, 4 2009 @ 09:13 AM
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It is not the law, yet....!!

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but the majority of today's terrorists are Muslim...a cliche, but true.

Did I care when Christians were blowing up Britain?
I take it you mean the IRA?
Well you can bet your arse I cared; being an Englishman of Irish Catholic descent I feel nothing but contempt for them and actively opposed them.
When have you actively opposed anything or are you just another cyber warrior happy to spout your bollocks on the net using a keyboard as your weapon.
I also opposed the UDA and by doing so got involved in some nasty business.
But my principles are my principles and I stand up for them.
I despise bigotry and oppression of any kind.
And that is the very reason I fear Islam and Sharia.
Because they deny us even the few freedoms we do have and are based on terror, even of it's followers.

Prior to the rennaissance the Muslim world acted as a safe harbour for forward thinking Europeans who fled The Spanish Inquisition etc.
But since then Islam has regressed and has become the most repressive religion around today and allows for no freedom of thought, will or choice.
If we value our freedoms then it must be opposed.

Me a product of propaganda and brain washing?
LOL. Nothing could be further from the truth my friend.

As for Fox news???
Didn't even know we can get it here in the UK.

Slave to money.
Unfortunately yes.
But I try to do my bit.

I am not a racist; a person's race and ethnicity is completely irrelevant to me.



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