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Any Obama Supporters in the house???...(chirp..chirp...chirp)

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posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by JulieMills
 


...unbased apoctolypic bashing is old and tired, and we just are not wasting our time on the inane dribble anymore.


Moved on? Ashamed to look back?



When you are ready to maturely discuss a policy without name calling and cheap shots., we will be here.


I am ready and braced. Remember: no name calling!



Because trying to discuss anything logically here is like trying to convince a tabloid to stop running cheap made up articles about celebrities. And it seems that is where many of you are getting your information from.


I am yet to see any logical discussion. Give it a shot - you might like it.




posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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No offense but how out of it are some of you people? The man has been in there since JANUARY, how do you expect him to fix everything in that time? Those decisions aren't even his alone, he has a House and a Senate to answer to. This mess (which has been building for 30 some years) will take at least 10-15 years to fully straighten out based on past conditions, we are a hell of a lot better off than many countries are under their best circumstances. Would you rather being living in a cardboard box in Mumbai? Or practically anywhere in Africa?

The orgy days are over, get used to living with less. If McCain was in office we would be in a hell of a lot worse of a mess, we'd certainly have been in both North Korea and Iran by now (if advance troops aren't already in the later) and the market would still be collapsing.
This cycle is nothing new, it happens several times each century. The mortage crisis and resulting bank failures have NOTHING to do with Obama's policies, thank Clinton and Bush for that mess.
Tough times call for drastic actions and he has been pretty lenient so far, you don't see gas rationing like we did in the 1970s, food quotas or even the use of eminent domain for private sector use like we saw during the last Bush tenure. If you think you have some brilliant ideas to fix the world's problems, get off the g------m forum and go email him. I'm sure they'd appreciate a helping hand.


no offense either here, but instead of bailing out the bankers and his masters, obama could have given each american 3.1 million dollars to stimulate the economy. WOW now that would of been some change you could of beleived in! but nope he chose to bail out his masters and commanders.

PLEASE stop drinking the kool aid!



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by JulieMills
Any Obama Supporters in the House?

You rang?


I am just interested to know how they feel about President Obama's policies and how he has treated the American people thus far.

Given the circumstances and magnitude of challenges, I continue to give the man the benefit of the doubt. So far, so good. I've been treated fairly thus far.

Change takes time and not for the faint of heart. All I see are the "Plastic Patriots" complaining.

I liken the naysayers to people who blame the EMT who shows up to attempt to save their life after a car wreck. Or if you swim out to save a drowning person, the first thing they do is to try to pull you under.



Any comments from Obama supporters is welcomed. Just trying to understand why they would still support him.

Great, so there are ARE no wrong answers then?



THIS IS NOT A FLAME THREAD please.


Of course it's not. And your seat cushion really is a flotation device.

It is like asking: Do you still beat your wife?


Thank you

Your are most welcome. I offered my sincere non-partisan opinion. That is what you requested, right?

[edit on 30-6-2009 by kinda kurious]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Phlegmi
Anything is an improvement from the last administration, so yes Obama is doing a good job. Actually, seeing what he has inherited I think he is doing a great job.


Here we go already. No excuses please. This is Obama's economy. He makes the decisions and his congress follows blindly. The dems have controlled for 2 1/2 years now, so get over Bush. Love him or hate him - he's old news and its time for Barry O and his worshippers to step up and take some responsibility.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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reply to post by kinda kurious
 
ok I'm kind of curious, so do you agree with the new policies he has enacted and the way he went about it?



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by JulieMills
 


We have gone on to better threads where people have more important things to discuss then whether he should of taken his wife on a date and how Michelle is evil because she started a garden that she probably doesn't work on. And how horrible Obama is for giving the Queen an ipod.

Hun you obviously haven't read through these thread. None of those non issues youmentioned have come up here.

just answer these questions for me.
1. do you approve of the policies Obama has enacted since he took office?
2. do you approve of the way he went about it?

(if you need examples just ask and I'm sure we can give you a couple)



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by secretagent woooman
If McCain was in office we would be in a hell of a lot worse of a mess, we'd certainly have been in both North Korea and Iran by now (if advance troops aren't already in the later) and the market would still be collapsing.


For the record, you have no way to substantiate or even rationalize these claims unless you are privy to some magical crystal ball the rest of us don't know about. For the sake of keeping a discussion rational, please refrain from making stuff up out of thin air and stick to facts. Both sides will get the message out, but this type of stuff is what deteriorates threads.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:45 PM
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He's allowing NASA to blow up the moon. *rolls eyes



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by tatersalad


no offense either here, but instead of bailing out the bankers and his masters, obama could have given each american 3.1 million dollars to stimulate the economy. WOW now that would of been some change you could of beleived in! but nope he chose to bail out his masters and commanders.

PLEASE stop drinking the kool aid!


This statement tells alot of you and your lack of knowledge of economics. A month after each American receiving 3.1 million dollars, a gallon of milk would cost the average consumer around $1,100. A house that originally cost 200k would now cost 17 million and a pack of gum would be a mere $50.

It would be hyper inflation at new levels with the dollar reverting to the likes of the Mark, pre WWII when the Mark went to a stagering 10 million Marks to the dollar.

BTW, in 1935, it cost a German almost 1 BILLION Marks to get a gallon of milk!

[edit on 30-6-2009 by Bearack]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by JulieMills

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by JulieMills
 


We have gone on to better threads where people have more important things to discuss then whether he should of taken his wife on a date and how Michelle is evil because she started a garden that she probably doesn't work on. And how horrible Obama is for giving the Queen an ipod.

Hun you obviously haven't read through these thread. None of those non issues youmentioned have come up here.

just answer these questions for me.
1. do you approve of the policies Obama has enacted since he took office?
2. do you approve of the way he went about it?

(if you need examples just ask and I'm sure we can give you a couple)


Not in this thread no but many of the previous months threads. After awhile you stop bothering.


1. Do I approve of the policies? Yes.

I will give you some examples of the many campaign promises kept since it seems many need to be reminded:

reversing the restrictions on stem cell research
giving the Navajo Nation water rights
ending the war in Iraq
closing gitmo
allowing access to Cuba
overturn ledbetter vs. Goodyear
established the credit card bill
expanded loan programs for small businesses
SCHIP
funding to train doctors
restored funding for JAG
the Mathew Shepherd act

redo the student loan program
(this affected me personally within months of him taking office and took 3k of charges off my bill, so yea, I approve)

Every single one of these orders benefit a small group, minority group, and were campaign promises.

yea, he is really eroding rights and doesnt' care about Americans. Considering many of these are empowering people.

and I didn't even vote for the guy.

Yes, he did inherit a mess. Massive debt, war. And that cannot be negated no matter how much you want it too.

The fact is, this is what has been done despite inheriting massive debt and a war that is now ending. I think it is comendable.



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by JulieMills
reply to post by kinda kurious
 
ok I'm kind of curious, so do you agree with the new policies he has enacted and the way he went about it?


In a word, YES.

OK, let me see if I can elaborate without falling into your trap.

I just got a root canal. I AGREE that it was necessary. I AGREE it was mildly painful and a nuisance. I did not ADVISE my dentist on how to perform it. ( Not familiar with the intricasies and complexities of modern denistry.) I trust him. If I didn't, I would no longer patronize his practice. BTW, I don't drink kool-aide, it diminishes your smile.


Regards....KK



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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Wth are you talking about? All this things are bad.

reversing the restrictions on stem cell research= Anti-Christ
living the Navajo Nation water rights= Socialist/communist
ending the war in Iraq=Illusion(pussy)
closing gitmo=Illusion
allowing access to Cuba=Allowing foreign countries to take over(globalist)
overturn ledbetter vs. Goodyear=Pfft!
established the credit card bill=Finacial slavery
expanded loan programs for small businesses=More control
SCHIP=could be mistaken as "ship"(mark of the beast)
funding to train doctors=Nazi depopulation plan
restored funding for JAG=War
the Mathew Shepherd act=Pfft!


See!


[edit on 30-6-2009 by Exv8densez]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by JulieMills
 


We have gone on to better threads where people have more important things to discuss then whether he should of taken his wife on a date and how Michelle is evil because she started a garden that she probably doesn't work on. And how horrible Obama is for giving the Queen an ipod.

Seriously, all the unbased apoctolypic bashing is old and tired, and we just are not wasting our time on the inane dribble anymore.

When you are ready to maturely discuss a policy without name calling and cheap shots., we will be here.


Because trying to discuss anything logically here is like trying to convince a tabloid to stop running cheap made up articles about celebrities. And it seems that is where many of you are getting your information from.


Quoted for truth.

Because honestly JulieMills do you think anything we Obama supporters say will make even the slightest dent on how you feel about him?

I would rather go outside with a hammer and pound on my balls for an hour than try to convince some rabid neo conservative what reality is.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by AllexxisF1]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by AllexxisF1

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by JulieMills
 


We have gone on to better threads where people have more important things to discuss then whether he should of taken his wife on a date and how Michelle is evil because she started a garden that she probably doesn't work on. And how horrible Obama is for giving the Queen an ipod.

Seriously, all the unbased apoctolypic bashing is old and tired, and we just are not wasting our time on the inane dribble anymore.

When you are ready to maturely discuss a policy without name calling and cheap shots., we will be here.


Because trying to discuss anything logically here is like trying to convince a tabloid to stop running cheap made up articles about celebrities. And it seems that is where many of you are getting your information from.


Quoted for truth.

Because honestly JulieMills do you think anything we Obama supporters say will make even the slightest dent on how you feel about him?

I would rather go outside with a hammer and pound on my balls for an hour than try to convince some rabid neo conservative what reality is.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by AllexxisF1]


Why don't you try and convince us? Of course, your favorite entertainment involving hand tools does not require such effort, but you have to give your appendices a break at least once in awhile...



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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It's called socialism my friends, and it is not a dirty word. Obama has taken it upon himself to transform the United States into what we Canadians would call a compassionate socialist society. This means the weak do not get left behind and capitalism takes a back seat. Greed, to misquote a movie from the 1980s, is NO LONGER GOOD. I know it goes agaist everything you've been taught and raised to believe, but much of the rest of the world is saying, well it's about time that the US moved from a me society to a we society. Now, Obama was left with a total disaster, caused mainly by Bush. Probably, it is not the time to be turing the US into France. Waiting till the economay improved dramatically would have been more cautious, but that may have taken 100 years. Nope, he decided to act now. It's full steam ahead. Let's hope it works. For now I advise you to let go of your fear and embrace your fellow American. He loves you.






[edit on 30-6-2009 by Silenceisall]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by ActuallyActuary
Why don't you try and convince us? Of course, your favorite entertainment involving hand tools does not require such effort, but you have to give your appendices a break at least once in awhile...



I have contributed to more political posts and discussion on the internet since 1993 and I found conclusively, that it's no match for the onslaught of BS from right wing media.

Case in point, discussing anything with a Neo Conservative is tant amount to banging on your balls with a hammer for an hour.

It just isn't worth it, but at the very least it feels like you are accomplishing something.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by AllexxisF1]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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I have a house.
It has a bad sink.

I HIRE a plumber to fix the sink.

He starts fixing the sink by breaking every tv in the house with a sledge hammer.

Now this makes some people in the house happy because they hate the tv show that was on at the time.

And once he is done with all the tvs, he leaves me a bill for the sink (which is still broken) says he did a pretty good job, expects me to hire him again, and wants me to thank him for his efforts.

Now I'm left with a broken sink (still), broken tvs, and I'm out of money to boot.

Give me a break!



[edit on 30-6-2009 by mikerussellus]



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
I have a house.
It has a bad sink. Blah, Blah Blah...


Yea because it's only been six months and should have fixed everything by now.

(Unbelievable sarcasm).



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by AllexxisF1

Originally posted by ActuallyActuary
Why don't you try and convince us? Of course, your favorite entertainment involving hand tools does not require such effort, but you have to give your appendices a break at least once in awhile...



I have contributed to more political posts and discussion on the internet since 1993 and I found conclusively, that it's no match for the onslaught of BS from right wing media.

Case in point, discussing anything with a Neo Conservative is tant amount to banging on your balls with a hammer for an hour.

It just isn't worth it, but at the very least it feels like you are accomplishing something.

[edit on 30-6-2009 by AllexxisF1]


Whatever rings your bells

May be you were not persuasive enough? I can come up with very precise definitions of what is going on, but, convincing you would prove impossible. Your faith in THE ONE is beyond any logic.
Don't hurt yourself exercising!



posted on Jun, 30 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by AllexxisF1

Originally posted by mikerussellus
I have a house.
It has a bad sink. Blah, Blah Blah...


Yea because it's only been six months and should have fixed everything by now.

(Unbelievable sarcasm).



Read what I wrote.

How long should we wait?
There is no learning curve for the presidency.
If he couldn't have handled the job from day one then he needs to leave now, so the grown-ups can run the country.



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