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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 02:51 PM by Bearack
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Oh, I should truly apologize to the bleeding hearts for uttering such logic.......NAH!!!!
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 02:54 PM by greeneyedleo
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I think before anyone says he "inherited" any issues - I think some research should be done first and see what Obama did BEFORE being elected to try
and curb these issues. Did he vote for or against the things Bush did? Did he try and stop anything Bush supported? Was he the lone minority in
congress that fought tooth and nail against everything the Bush administration stood for? Or was he right up there with them - voting for the same
things?
Cant blame Bush for everything - when clearly Obama was part of the problem too. Unless he fought against everything in the Bush administration.
*next excuse*
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:00 PM by kozmo
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Originally posted by secretagent woooman
No offense but how out of it are some of you people? The man has been in there since JANUARY, how do you expect him to fix everything in that time?
Those decisions aren't even his alone, he has a House and a Senate to answer to. This mess (which has been building for 30 some years) will take at
least 10-15 years to fully straighten out based on past conditions, we are a hell of a lot better off than many countries are under their best
circumstances. Would you rather being living in a cardboard box in Mumbai? Or practically anywhere in Africa?
The orgy days are over, get used to living with less. If McCain was in office we would be in a hell of a lot worse of a mess, we'd certainly have
been in both North Korea and Iran by now (if advance troops aren't already in the later) and the market would still be collapsing.
This cycle is nothing new, it happens several times each century. The mortage crisis and resulting bank failures have NOTHING to do with Obama's
policies, thank Clinton and Bush for that mess.
Tough times call for drastic actions and he has been pretty lenient so far, you don't see gas rationing like we did in the 1970s, food quotas or
even the use of eminent domain for private sector use like we saw during the last Bush tenure. If you think you have some brilliant ideas to fix the
world's problems, get off the g------m forum and go email him. I'm sure they'd appreciate a helping hand.
Oh secretagent, shame on you! You're not paying attention. He doesn't have to answer to a House or Senate anymore. Nope! Those pesky servile
little louts are now being circumvented via the use of "Czars"!
And for the record... we are worse off now than we were 6 months ago when he took office. You don't need to believe me, just go check out his
[declining] approval ratings.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:01 PM by total newbie
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We push a "green" revolution in Iran and at home we get this crap. Wait until they roll out those new flu vaccines. Just wait a little longer.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:02 PM by genius/idoit
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he has a House and a Senate to answer to
really?I thought they were controlled by democrats?Thats why mcain would have been better for the country...............Balance
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:06 PM by genius/idoit
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That's a good point except obama was only a senator for about 160 days before he started running for office (as scary as that is in and of itself)it
doesn't leave much to go on.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:14 PM by Bearack
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Originally posted by genius/idoit
reply to post by greeneyedleo
That's a good point except obama was only a senator for about 160 days before he started running for office (as scary as that is in and of itself)it
doesn't leave much to go on.
HUH??
He was a state legislator from 1997 - 2004 and a senator from 2005 - 2008, granted, 2008 was nothing more than campaiging for president. He sponsered
all kinds of gund control acts in IL before deciding to run the bog show!
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:17 PM by genius/idoit
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He was a state legislator from 1997 - 2004 please provide proof and a definition of a state legislator. I live in ill. and I don't recall
that.thanks............ edit;I think your confusing state legislator with community organizer but I could be wrong.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:19 PM by Zerbst
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Originally posted by AllexxisF1
I support him and disagree with him at times. He is a politician doing the best job he can for 6 months in office.
Wise up people! When will people see this obvious fraud? How many times will people forgive the last one and hope for the next? Never once has a
politician done the best job he can for you! They don't work for you!!
It makes no difference if they are Dem or Rep, they all fail you, over and over. It's painfully obvious, yet denial persists? You want to cut him
some slack since it's only been 6 months?
In only 6 mos., Obama has already proven himself the same as all the rest! Campaigned on ending the war, but he is supporting it, as well as starting
his own in Iran. Big lie! He swore that incomes under $250K would shoulder no new taxes? Big lie! Obama is taxing low income like nobody has before
him. Taxes on tobacco, alcohol, health care, and now energy? He is back dooring low income to death with hidden taxes. He proudly boasted his national
health care for everyone? Big lie! He forgot to mention that everyone was going to pay for it themselves, not to mention it's mandatory? He wouldn't
shut up about helping main street over wall street? Big lie! He sure was quick to forget that one! Helping wall street seemed to have gone straight to
the top of his list, while main street must have been removed all together?
All this in a very short amount of time. Imagine what he will accomplish in 4-8 years!! I'm guessing 8 years since the people are always so forgiving
of the lies and failures? Just look back at Bush in 2004. He couldn't have had a worse first term, yet he got another chance.
Better start thinking long and hard about this. When will enough be enough? Shameful!
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:21 PM by Bearack
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Originally posted by genius/idoit
reply to post by Bearack
He was a state legislator from 1997 - 2004 please provide proof and a definition of a state legislator. I live in ill. and I don't recall
that.thanks............ edit;I think your confusing state legislator with community organizer but I could be wrong.
[edit on 29-6-2009 by genius/idoit]
State legislator: 1997–2004
Main article: Illinois Senate career of Barack Obama
Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from Illinois's 13th District, which at that time
spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park-Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.[45] Once elected, Obama gained
bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[46] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers,
negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[47] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on
Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting
home foreclosures.[48]
Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, defeating Republican Yesse Yehudah in the general election, and was reelected again in 2002.[49]
In 2000, he lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to
one.[50][51]
In January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority,
regained a majority.[52] He sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record
the race of drivers they detained, and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[47][53] During
his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in
enacting death penalty reforms.[54] Obama resigned from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to the U.S. Senate.[55]
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:27 PM by xmotex
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He's done things I like, and some things I don't.
No regrets on my vote, he was the best of the lot.
I didn't expect him to magically fix everything, or govern flawlessly, so no big disappointments here.
I think the handwringing in here is mostly pretty comical - yeah, we're all suddenly living under Stalinism now, sure
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:27 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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I have never supported any President who has been in office.
Not one.
I was born in 1973.
Every President, is a pawn, of the global elite, the monetary money-grubbing, robber-barrons.
They are all financial predators, one and all, the global elite that is, whether any President is or was, is something I care not to discuss.
Do not blame me, I did not vote Bush into the last Administration, and I did not vote Obama into this Administration, and I did not vote for McBush
either.
Vote Garfield for President 2012
To me, there is no "lesser of two evils" when it comes to politics, it's who's closest to actually telling the truth.
Can you guess who I voted for this last election?
I will give you a few clues.
He's orange, cartoon, feline, loves lasagna, kicks Odie, tortures Nermal, irritates Jon Arbuckle just because it's fun, and rarely gets out of the
recliner.
You see, to me, if a politician is not going to do anything for anyone else, is going to abuse and torture the people watching him, as well as the
people he or she is responsible for, and does it all for cheap laughs, well, I want that to be someone who at least is more real than 99% of the
politicians on Capitol Hill.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:30 PM by Bearack
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Originally posted by xmotex
He's done things I like, and some things I don't.
No regrets on my vote, he was the best of the lot.
I didn't expect him to magically fix everything, or govern flawlessly, so no big disappointments here.
I think the handwringing in here is mostly pretty comical - yeah, we're all suddenly living under Stalinism now, sure
Nah, Stalin wasn't Fascist.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:39 PM by xmotex
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OK, so where is the fascism?
The bailout? Please...
That was in the works before the man ever took office.
Fascism is defined in large part by militarism, which if anything is far less true of the current admin. than the last one.
It's all very exciting to pretend this stuff is true, but so far, no Obama Brownshirts have shown up at my door (or anyone's), nobody is being
locked up for dissent (if you'll notice, Rush Limbaugh still has his show, etc.), my gun collection is as safe as it ever was... I could go on
So far all I see is a bunch o clowns freaking out because they lost an election, and pretending it's the end of the world.
Give me a break
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:42 PM by Vitchilo
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Yeah, like many others who hated Bush just like we hate Obama because of his lies and his destruction of the constitution, deception, ect...
WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR BS saying he inherited all this. And we don't scream because he didn't ``fix the mess``, we scream because he's making it
WORSE.
Did Bush forced Obama to continue the bank bailouts? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to force GM to go bankrupt? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to pass cap and trade? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to continue the wars? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to put more troops in Afghanistan? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to put more mercenaries in Iraq? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to introduce anti-second amendment bills? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to introduce conscription in congress? No.
Did Bush forced Obama to lie at every turn? No.
Ect...
Let's face it, Obama is following his masters wishes, same what Bush did.
Bush or McCain wouldn't have been able to pull 1% of the crap Obama pulled in less than 6 months.
Can you imagine we still have 18 months MINIMUM with that crap in congress? And another 3 years and a half with that lying scumbag in office?
Can we have a REAL revolution in 2012 please? Maybe we won't even have time. If they manage to pass every bad legislation they've introduced and
push it, america is over... if it's not already.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 03:49 PM by Exv8densez
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Wooo hoo! This would be one of those flaming thread calling for a fight.
FIGHT; FIGHT, FIGHT!
You also got to wait for him to have the blood of millions of innocents on his hands to complete the whole mess.
Well, I don’t know as an outsider, I’m still waiting for him to morph into this reptilian-pharaoh clone-Anti-Christ homo!Now that would be
exiting.
Unpopular policies, flip-flopping are still the same old boring stuff. YAWWWN!
I’m counting on him to get the S to HTF.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 05:08 PM by Moodle
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did bush forced? holy $&*#. like 8 times in a row.
and you're one of the "good guys"?
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does any of this mean i can start killing people yet?
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 05:59 PM by Exv8densez
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Yes!
I'm sure you don't need permission to "kill" and I'm sure you also understand sarcasm.
All this is just trivial, tribal stuff predicted from the start. In fact I never expected Obama to make any difference(as a human) I was hoping the
phenomenon would go beyond boring politics as usual but hey, what do you expect with humans uh? Yawn Yawn Yawn!
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:01 PM by SchefSalad
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You know this is the most ridiculous thing. The Obama bashers i really have to say it seems like you guys are just in love with him. You cant get
enough, it seems that thats all you want to talk about is Obama. If you love him so much why don't you marry him? You are aware that opposites
attract. Look at the end of his term you'll see that its all working toward a greater more prosperous nation. Anything the man does you guys hate so
just quit bitchin and start voting protesting. For F$)% sake. Just continue living in your delusional paranoid apocalypse. I didnt vote for the man
but i highly doubt hes going to destroy the world. You guys are the ones who are putting him on this pedestal. I dont see his supporters calling him
the "one" or any of the other bulshpit names you come up with. Its all you, the bashers. You have made yourself believe that Obama is some kind of
powerful figure. Hes just some guy. By the sound of it you have been the only ones who think he is all powerful. Realistic people like myself know
that hes just another president. STOP putting him so high up then MAYBE you'll be able to leave your bomb shelters.
To Obama positive people. What the hell is happening with the losers? They just appear to have some resentful hate for this man. Is it race, is it
mind control. Has the illuminati :p brainwashed the sore losers into a vicious rage that not a single one has ever justified. Anyways we still have to
keep an eye on the man being that even the good ones can fall.
Ill still support him, just as i turned the other cheek during 8 years of bush and dick
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:06 PM by genius/idoit
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I stand corrected.That being the case shouldn't he be better at this?
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