H.R. 675: Building Obama's Civilian National Security Force, page 2

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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 05:44 PM by Walkswithfish

Originally posted by TheAssociate
I, for one, welcome the regime. It will be great to surrender our will to the government for the good of the people. I look forward to serving.

First you must be a civilian employee of the Department of Defense, which I am sure is not an easy gig to get mate.

It is basically going to be a new branch of law enforcement, and I am sure there are very "strict requirements" before you are given weapons and marching orders.

Something along the lines of the former Nazi SS maybe?

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 05:59 PM by TheAssociate

reply to post by Walkswithfish

HEAVY sarcasm.

Guess I should've been more clear that i was making a joke.

I'd hurl myself in front of a bus before working for any part of the government, willingly or otherwise.

TA

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:09 PM by Walkswithfish

Originally posted by TheAssociate
reply to post by Walkswithfish

HEAVY sarcasm.

Dude, I seen the wink, I just wanted to make a point.

It's too bad that you would not be interested in a government job, because pretty soon that is all there will be.

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:14 PM by TheAssociate

reply to post by Walkswithfish

It's too bad that you would not be interested in a government job, because pretty soon that is all there will be.

True enough, sadly. I guess when they finally do nationalize all industries, I'll go off the grid and live off the land. They'll probably do their best to prevent us from doing that, after all they need every bit of labor available to support "the public good." But I'll figure something out.

TA

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:22 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Wow what exactly are they going to do?

They can't catch people committing Stock Fraud.

They can't catch people committing Real Estate Fraud.

They can't catch people committing Bank Fraud.

They can't catch people committing Medicaire Fraud.

They can't catch people committing Department of Defense Fraud.

Besides handing out parking tickets and speeding tickets what actually does the law do anymore?

I think we might be safer on this one than we think!

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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:32 PM by Walkswithfish

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Let me fix some things for you here...

They wont catch people committing Stock Fraud.

They wont catch people committing Real Estate Fraud.

They wont catch people committing Bank Fraud.

They wont catch people committing Medicaire Fraud.

They wont catch people committing Department of Defense Fraud.

The only exceptions to any of the above would be those who commit these crimes outside of the loop of corruption in law enforcement and government agencies.

Besides handing out parking tickets and speeding tickets what actually does the law do anymore?

You think the creation of a new law enforcement agency from a "civilian" DOD work force is going to be for any of the above?

I think we might be safer on this one than we think!

Well done, you are thinking exactly as they want you to!

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:37 PM by ProtoplasmicTraveler

reply to post by Walkswithfish

Big star for you on that one my friend!

See how easy it is too fool them!

I have been waiting my whole life for what's about to come down the pike, all I can say is let's rock n roll because I sure am going too when the time comes.

Yes I consider myself lucky after all how many people get to have a real crisis with their mid life crisis?

This planet rocks!

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:39 PM by concerned190

My husband works for the DOD. I wonder what would happen if he took the training, the gun and when shtf took off.

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:42 PM by SFwife

Originally posted by Walkswithfish

Originally posted by TheAssociate
I, for one, welcome the regime. It will be great to surrender our will to the government for the good of the people. I look forward to serving.

First you must be a civilian employee of the Department of Defense, which I am sure is not an easy gig to get mate.

Its not Hard to get a job with DOD (as a civilian) at all .

And how anyone could support Obama just blows my little old mind

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:49 PM by Walkswithfish

Originally posted by concerned190
My husband works for the DOD. I wonder what would happen if he took the training, the gun and when shtf took off.

Interesting, If he is given an offer please let us know.

I suspect that new people are going to be hired into the civilian DOD workforce, and of those they will select the candidates they are seeking for this new branch of law enforcement. They could very well build a secret police force out of this with little or no government oversight... All it takes is tweaking the laws a bit: H.R. 675!

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 06:56 PM by concerned190

reply to post by Walkswithfish

I will for sure. If he is not but still hears about it I will keep ya'll posted as well.

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:15 PM by Walkswithfish

Something important, that defines a very broad mandate that this new police will have..

Members of the DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce shall be organized, trained, cleared, equipped, and ready to deploy in support of combat operations by the military; contingencies; emergency operations; humanitarian missions; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense in accordance with DoDD 3000.05

You see that one little thing in bold?

That is an open door, and they can do a hell of a lot of damage with it.

Now they just need to give them the authority to execute warrants, make arrests, and carry firearms which is what this H.R. 675 is purportedly going to do.

The new SS is born!

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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:30 PM by wonderworld

reply to post by ziggy1706

I doubt we can get Obama impeached. He's still to loved in the world. I had a chat with my doctor and was told than none of the doctors, including his patients want nationalized health care. The media is lying to us again.

I think the media manipulating his popularity results! Many who voted for change didnt expect such drastic abuse to the Constitution and human rights.

The sheep are confused about change and the implications of such!

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:35 PM by wonderworld

reply to post by Walkswithfish

This is incredible! This will be a time in history that bring lots of chaos. The Military has never previously been allowed to arrest or patrol, unless a state emergency is declared by that particular state.

Somethings in the air. We can all feel it.

We can at any given time be thrown in to a police state; combined his his new executive order of holding prisoners indefinitly without cause or a trail is setting the stage.

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:40 PM by wonderworld

Originally posted by TheAssociate
reply to post by Walkswithfish

It's too bad that you would not be interested in a government job, because pretty soon that is all there will be.

True enough, sadly. I guess when they finally do nationalize all industries, I'll go off the grid and live off the land. They'll probably do their best to prevent us from doing that, after all they need every bit of labor available to support "the public good." But I'll figure something out.

TA

I'm afraid that by 2010 all we'll be left with is Obama's government jobs, some paid, some a duty of American Servitude. Crazy!

I expect the work Brigades to be brought forth in other G20 Countries, as well.

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:45 PM by wonderworld

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
reply to post by ziggy1706

You should be more careful with the use of certain key words, like Obama and impeach in the same post along with other language that stands out as strong opposition to the Obama administration, in the not too distant future they are going to have much more control over the Internet as well, new unprecedented powers that will give them the ability to find key words and phrases in postings anywhere, including ATS, then they will get your IP information, not that they will need it, the new Internet that is taking form now will give them real time ability to monitor LIVE two way communications between any computer(s) and servers or server networks. They can easily track you down and either schedule you for reprogramming, or elimination. At a minimum audit you, find errors in your taxes, and/or put you in jail for anything they "find"

I'm not worried though, I'm already a dead man, so I have nothing to fear.

Bring it!

I'm probably on the red list too.

You are right about internet monitoring. Check this out;

Free Press Warns of Global Censorship Technology Deployed in U.S.

It's happening. Look they have us all worried about certain key words.

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:52 PM by northwolf

Would security contractors like Blackwater, Erinys and other PMCs fit this bill..? DOD contracted "civilian" personel, that would give the administration a readily trained force overnight, with legal rights to suppress any dissidents in CONUS..

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:54 PM by Walkswithfish

In the end here what we have is another piece of crap legislation that needs to be STOPPED!

There is still time, contact your elected reps and tell them what you think about this bill.

Find out more about it here:

www.opencongress.org...

You can see the bill's current status on that page. No vote yet, no amendments.

Here is what has been going on with it:

Mar 16, 2009: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

Jan 26, 2009: Referred to House Judiciary

Jan 26, 2009: Referred to House Armed Services

Jan 26, 2009: Referred to the Committee on Armed Services, and in addition to the Committee on the Judiciary, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.

Jan 26, 2009: Sponsor introductory remarks on measure. (CR E163)

Introduced on Jan 26, 2009

Deny them another potential for abuse of powers!

If this one gets through... It will be because we let it happen!

God only knows what kind of amendments they will add to this bill before it goes to vote.

Stay informed on this if you can, if you are so inclined, contact your elected reps and let them know what you think about this one.

reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 08:21 PM by wonderworld

reply to post by northwolf

The thought of handing out guns and badges to civillians is scary. Do they do a background check? Will they be identifiable with arm bands like Nazi brigades?

These guys may aquire an authoritarian/power trip. Kind of like the new cop syndrome.

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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 08:48 PM by concerned190