US top court rules against city on race, overturns Sonia Sotomayor decision, page 4
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 07:51 PM by Hemisphere
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Rival,

Thanks for sharing your story here. There's an old adage "no good deed goes unpunished". It would seem true at times like these.

Judging from the enlightened posts I've read, I think the others following this thread will agree with me. You didn't post your story for sympathy or attention you were simply adding personal experience to the thread. That said I must pause to note that you and your family have bared much pain while bettering the life of one young man. For now that will have to be your consolation. You've also shown your children and those watching in your community how to act responsibly and that will be a future reward for you and everyone. I think you already know in your heart everything I'm saying, I just want you to know there are others that admire your unselfish decisions and your good works. I hope that if I was challenged like you that I would act in kind.

Do whatever you can to get past these disturbing people and events. Easier said than done I know. What is the Biblical quote, "and this too shall pass"? And of course: Illegitimus non carborundum! ("Don't let the bastards grind you down!") I can't think of a more appropriate time to use that phrase.

Well done. Peace to you and yours!


reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 08:11 PM by Hemisphere
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
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post by Hemisphere



Ok, now I see what you are saying. That it could have been avoided altogether had Sotomayor had a brain and made a sensible decision in the first place. I agree in that respect. However, I do believe that taking it to the Supreme Court, in the long run, will be a great boon, because it has finally set the ultimate precedent for future issues of reverse discrimination. Perhaps because of this case, future cases will end up deferring to the supreme court decision and we will not see this happen again.


Excellent point about this setting precedent. It seems luck and not the law was on our side in this decision. A new appointment could obviously have flipped this outcome. There's reason a plenty to challenge Ms Sotomayer's appointment.

P.S. I never went near Kitty!


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 12:29 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by Arbitrageur



Exactly! Education is the responsibility of those that wish to take the tests. No one elses. The original filer in this suit is deslexic and studied for almost two years, paying for extra classes and tutors he paid for out of his own pocket, only to be told that because the minorities didn't get the same training and education he should lose his passing with honors grade on the test. If someone wishes to be considered for a higher ranking postition he should do what is neccessary for himself, not rely on racist and discriminatory PC crap to raise his place in the department!
Zindo

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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 08:06 PM by Hemisphere
reply to post by Arbitrageur



Arbi, you're right on there. If there are any handicaps it comes down to educational opportunities and things of that nature. And that is less and less the case as the years pass. You have to purposefully avoid educational opportunities now or so it seems. Even if someone taking this test had educational disadvantages, you still can't error and promote their lower test score because there are lives at stake. The men with the lower scores can study, improve and be promoted in the future. That's what this country is about, opportunity. Now that they know what is involved how tough can that be? If they continue to fail they are not capable.

We continue having minorities come to the country and due to various differences and language they start at the bottom and work up. It was that way for every group. Yes blacks might be the exception but that was 150 years ago and the civil rights 60's were 40+ years ago. How old are the firemen? 30 to 40 years old? It's time for everyone in the country to grow up. Just mho.
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