All of you who said that you would intervene in some way..., I commend you all. This is what needs to happen more often in our world. People need to stop turning the other cheek. We need to get more involved in what is going on around us. Please, all of you remember this quote the next time you see some form of evil being perpetrated on some innocent person-"The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing."(Edmund Burke)

Originally posted by Republican08

That's more then the avg, hundred people there that watched and said nothing.

Next time do more.

Give those hundred people something to think about - let them see a man do the right thing, it is a rare sight these days.

Consider this: If people don't feel safe at your store - how will that affect business?


The child might be dead, or lord knows what. Then what is your store and job worth if your position there restrained you from saving a life?


*And you are right, you did more than most people would do - but that is not enough. Next time a thing like it happens, act in such a manner that we are not left wondering what the fate of the mother and child may be.

What would your ancestors have done if they had seen a mother and child being attacked and stolen - What would they do to that rogue - even just two generations ago?

...In his prime, How would Granddad handle this situation?


That's the way.

[edit on 29-6-2009 by Exuberant1]

Although I believe you acted correctly, if differently than I would have, the replys to your post and your own statement concerning snitchs and women got me hooked. Let me tell you why.

I was raised, probably like you, to protect women, never to hit them regardless of provacation. Over the years I have learned that training is wrong. It can get you killed. While it was probably true in the past, today many woman are far more dangerous than many men and more vicious as well. Not the majority but enough to put you in danger if you do not properly assess the situation.

As to snitches. There is a differance in what you did than in what a snitch does from my viewpoint. Far too many people do not properly assess what is going on before calling the police to sort it out. They assume or make judgements based on perception rather than on what they actually know. The result of police involvement quite often results in bankruptcy, destruction of the family, divorce and abandonment of children over what is in effect BS. In addition if you look around you will find that children are being taught to snitch on their parents over ANYTHING to the PTB. Do not be fooled into believing that being falsly accused is easily solved these days. Even if you are mistakenly accused, meaning the police were to go after someone else and went to you by mistake, the financial, emotional, and physical damage is tremendous. You see this in the news all the time. There have been cases where parents have lost their children for jerking them out of the way of a speeding car for child abuse. It would have cost them less to let their child die from the car in a lot of ways.

I believe because of the usual horrific ramifications to all partys once the police are involved has led to the lack of involvement by bystanders today. Being sued for saving someone's life tends to make people a little hesitent not to mention the physical danger they may face over something that they may have misunderstood. Does this help you understand why some people are this way? Do not blame them. They also have their own familys to protect.

In my opinion, you are tooting your own horn and sound somewhat delusional or self-deceptive.

Bystander effect?

You stood by to watched her get punched, watched them literally break into and hotwire a car, and watched a baby perchance get seriously injured without doing anything until after the fact.

You're trying to come of as a hero for calling the cops after you were completely safe?

You also seem to just be assuming that nobody else notified the police before or after you did.

I don't get it.

In a self defense class that I took, the instructors (one was a cop and the other his wife) gave a scenario and asked what we would do. I told them I would intervene. They all, but kicked me out, saying that, it would be a police matter and I should just idly standby and gather information that the police could use "after" the attack. I mean REALLY.
They stated that by interfering, I could become a victim as well. This is what our world is coming to. Sad, but true.

Originally posted by Republican08
Ok for one, You guys don't know me at all, I have no reason to, "toot my own horn''. What does it matter of opinions of people i've never met, and never will meet!

It obviously means something to you. You've just put me on your foe list!

Some are saying I should of done nothing at all? What, or that I should of just fought the guy, well i'm currently on probation, one[snip]up and it's the slammer for a few years. So i'm not really wanting that.

"I would have done something, but...."

The pitiful part is that you aren't considering that other people "would have done something, but..." as well.

tracethetruth- i've spoken repeatedly with the cops on the situation, apparently they haven't had any other calls about it.

That's great. I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't have called the cops.

I'm just saying it's not as remarkable or heroic as you are putting it out to be.

You're obviously so proud that you can pick up the phone *AT WORK WHERE YOU ARE GETTING PAID FOR IT* and call some cops after a semi-violent/illegal situation has passed that you've made a thread about how awesome you are for doing while simultaneously putting down the rest of society.

I tried to think of the best thing for me to do.

... and it appears you did. It's simple. It doesn't make you a hero. Do you really think it deserves it's own thread on a conspiracy board? You're just bringing this criticism on yourself because you're showing yourself to be a disgruntled member of society who thinks everyone is worthless, therefore, when you personally, do something that any fool could do... you think it's extra special!

I don't get how some people think she deserved this for being with him...... I don't know,[snip]it, I'm not helping in anyways next time.

[snip]

I see. Now that you didn't get the grand praise you were looking for, you're not going to do anything next time. Well my friend, it's entirely obvious now that that is all you wanted in the first place. No offense, but I find that completely disgusting.

[snip]

The words of a hero if I've ever heard them!

Cause you can be sure I won't. I've gotten to much crap for this already.
[snip]
Crap. I think we've created a super-villain!



Mod Edit - removed quoted material that violated T&C's

[edit on 29-6-2009 by elevatedone]

I've called 911 on a couple of occasions to report a fight in progress and once to report a shooting.

I wasn't involved directly in any of those events. I didn't know if there was a right person or a wrong person. I figured that I'd let the police sort it out.

It took all of 30 seconds to make the phone call and provide the relevant information as to location and individuals involved.

The police responded almost immediately in two of the cases and a little while in the third case.

If I had witnessed what you saw in your parking lot, I would have discreetly called the police on my cell phone. I might have driven down the block and then made the call, but I would have called.

It doesn't take much to make a cell call.