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reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 08:41 PM by David9176



reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 10:01 PM by tamusan
reply to post by Zosynspiracy



Personally, I'd wouldn't care if the Chinese walk in and take over. I even speak the language. One of my children was born in the peoples republic to a Chinese national. So maybe I am a shoe in.

On the other hand, how does that play into your future scenario of a happy little world for you, your wife, and desired children? Do you like the good ole U.S.A? Or do you want change even more drastic than comrade Obama is wheeling in?

Granted, these wars are not popular. I would be very happy if all those soldiers all came home and we turned into isolationists again. However, I support each and everyone of these troops. If it was not for these men and women that are serving our country now in the military, another country would walk right in and take over. Almost all of them did not want to go to Iraq or A-stan.


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 11:47 PM by David9176
reply to post by Zosynspiracy



These people aren't brainwashed. You're stereotyping all of them. Many of the soldiers don't want to be there. The suicide rate amongst soldiers is at an all time high. Many signed up in the military long before the war in Iraq...and many have been forced to serve longer than was originally intended.

I want them home....but calling them brainwashed idiots is ridiculous. The fact is....if the media covered this more...maybe we could get them home....but they choose to pretty much ignore it. The war is OK now because Obama is in office.

And yes, the costs of keeping up this war are WAY too high...which is another reason it needs to stop...we simply cannot afford it anymore....not to mention the hate for the USA continues to grow.

Bring 'em home!

Fighting in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq...and now a threat from Iran and North Korea.

We can't keep doing this. We keep up at this pace we will be headed straight into WW3...and that means drafts.

Stop the craziness...bring the troops home.



reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 02:02 AM by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by David9176



What I said was that for the most part soldiers fall into one of two categories....brainwashed uninformed and uneducated idiots or they actually don't care and believe that America should be policing the world and we are the greatest country in the world and # everyone else, they should be like us.

It's really that simple people. I'm sorry about your little brother and mom to the one poster. But it's not like our military has been doing this # for the last 10 years. It's been going on for the last 100. America has been a corrupt country with corrupt leaders for a LONG TIME. People, especially younger ones are starting to realize we've been lied to. Smedley Butler was talking about it way back when. There is no excuse to serve this country blindly and use the uniform as an excuse. 9/11 was a joke. Most of us knew that from the day it happened. Ignorance is no excuse.

And don't use that tired excuse as they don't want to be there. That's bull# as well. When you join the military chances are you're going to have to fight in a war. What do they expect? America has been engaged in a serious war since WWII every decade. So are you telling me all the young people that join are that stupid to think that if they do join they'll never be involved in a war?

I guess I shouldn't hate the young people that sign up. They are just impressionable and have so much propaganda spewed at them what do we expect? I mean look at the posts even in this short thread. I never said America shouldn't have a standing army or we shouldn't defend our country. But we don't need a $600 billion dollar defense budget and 700+ bases on just about every country. We are the biggest #ing hypocrites in the world. This country isn't worth fighting for anymore because the people don't run it anymore. I say let the military die and let's regain our control. Then maybe it would be worth fighting and saving again. My grandfather was a WWII vet, my uncle was a Marine and my brother did his 4 years in the AF. I was almost stupid enough to join when I was younger. If I knew then what I knew now............It wouldn't have even crossed my mind. This is my country and I'd lay down my life protecting the American people but you bet your ass I'd never serve a day under my corrupt and tyrannical government. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. This country needs a militia, well armed, well funded, and willing to die for a cause. Maybe us young people should think about that before go die in some foreign land.


reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 09:19 AM by Floating thru Reality
reply to post by Zosynspiracy



Bravo. It gets a little tiresome when people say I support the troops but don't support the military. The troops are the military, you can't have a military if you don't have the troops. Most are brainwashed when they sign up but once deployed they surely figure it out. The fact that their isn't dissertion and disobedience on a wide scale can only be interpreted as agreement or a lack of courage. It's time to stop this pavlovian worship of the military and time to start calling it what it is.


reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:35 PM by USMC-oorah
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
reply to
post by David9176



What I said was that for the most part soldiers fall into one of two categories....brainwashed uninformed and uneducated idiots or they actually don't care and believe that America should be policing the world and we are the greatest country in the world and # everyone else, they should be like us.

It's really that simple people. I'm sorry about your little brother and mom to the one poster. But it's not like our military has been doing this # for the last 10 years. It's been going on for the last 100. America has been a corrupt country with corrupt leaders for a LONG TIME. People, especially younger ones are starting to realize we've been lied to. Smedley Butler was talking about it way back when. There is no excuse to serve this country blindly and use the uniform as an excuse. 9/11 was a joke. Most of us knew that from the day it happened. Ignorance is no excuse.

And don't use that tired excuse as they don't want to be there. That's bull# as well. When you join the military chances are you're going to have to fight in a war. What do they expect? America has been engaged in a serious war since WWII every decade. So are you telling me all the young people that join are that stupid to think that if they do join they'll never be involved in a war?

I guess I shouldn't hate the young people that sign up. They are just impressionable and have so much propaganda spewed at them what do we expect? I mean look at the posts even in this short thread. I never said America shouldn't have a standing army or we shouldn't defend our country. But we don't need a $600 billion dollar defense budget and 700+ bases on just about every country. We are the biggest #ing hypocrites in the world. This country isn't worth fighting for anymore because the people don't run it anymore. I say let the military die and let's regain our control. Then maybe it would be worth fighting and saving again. My grandfather was a WWII vet, my uncle was a Marine and my brother did his 4 years in the AF. I was almost stupid enough to join when I was younger. If I knew then what I knew now............It wouldn't have even crossed my mind. This is my country and I'd lay down my life protecting the American people but you bet your ass I'd never serve a day under my corrupt and tyrannical government. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. This country needs a militia, well armed, well funded, and willing to die for a cause. Maybe us young people should think about that before go die in some foreign land.


So, if MOST troops are brainwashed fools, then what does that make you? Are you a little impressionable kid with dreadlocks, sitting in daddys basement, listening to some "revolutionary" music and not knowing reality if it slapped you in the face? Did you let the rage against the machine album get you all wound up? Did you go to a couple protests and get a hard on for anything "revolutionary?" Did you go out to and buy all the tightest Che shirts you could find? Perhaps your half read a couple articles on the internet and gained your opinion through half truths and reading what you wanted to. Do you wonder around spouting your mouth off to anyone who will listen? Do you wear your half developed opinions on your sleeve so, everyone knows your "different" but, really its a cry for attention. See, people who have your opinion and REALLY do something about it end up fighting the soldiers just like, you guessed it, SOLDIERS.

My little paragraph was JUST as stereotypical as yours. The truth is, I dont know who you are and I don't care. I don't spout out my opinion about "other" opinions because I have my own. In MY beliefs, I fight for people so, they can have beliefs. A person who wears their opinions on their sleeves and objects to other opinions so stupidly, has NO opinion. Come on now, "screw the soldiers?"
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