Do you think Steve Jobs (worth $3.7 Billion) bought his donor liver?

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posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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Apple boss Steve Jobs has liver transplant


Mr Jobs, chief executive of Apple, had the operation around two months ago.

Mr Jobs, who has previously battled pancreatic cancer in 2004, went on medical leave from the electronics giant in six months ago, to treat an undisclosed medical condition, thought to be a hormonal imbalance.

His gaunt and pale appearance at an Apple conference in January this year sparked further fears about his health.

Rumours about Mr Jobs' health have persistently caused fluctuations in Apple's share price.

Several Apple directors are believed to have known of the surgery, which Mr Jobs received in Tennessee.

He is said to be making a good recovery and is expected to return to work later this month, but may initially resume his position part-time.



Please don't get me wrong, I'm happy for the guy and his family.

But the second thing that entered my mind after "Good luck mate" was a cynical thought that if he wasn't worth 3.7 billion I doubt he would have recieved that liver.

I don't know if he bought it, got preferential treatment, or whatever. But I'm sure someone else has probably not been so lucky because of him.

I just know that there's one set of rules for Average Joe, and another for the Elite.

What do you think?




posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 03:51 PM
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I dont know whether he got preferential treatment or not, but I would personally rather have him get a liver than some guy who downed a bottle of whiskey every mornng and didnt contribute anything to the world. Steve Jobs is a great leader and visionary, so I am glad he got the liver he needed.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 04:05 PM
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Your point has merit, but how do you know the guy who was supposed to get the liver wasn't a nice, normal man?(assuming he did buy the liver)

You think that a guy who's agreat businessman/visionary deserves it more than a family man working two jobs to keep his family going?

Just a question bud!





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posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Yeah actually I do think that a great leader and visionary or any person who has achieved great things in the world would deserve it more than an average person like myself.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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[edit on 28-6-2009 by total newbie]



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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If he did "buy" it then prop's to him, you cant tell that in the same situation you wouldn't buy one, I know I would, people have the right to life and to fight for that life whatever means possible.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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I don't think he bought his place in line for the transplant. I do think he made an informed decision on where to have the procedure...


The specifics of Mr. Jobs's surgery couldn't be established, but according to the United Network for Organ Sharing, which manages the transplant network in the U.S., there are no residency requirements for transplants. Having the procedure done in Tennessee makes sense because its list of patients waiting for transplants is shorter than in many other states. According to data provided by UNOS, in 2006, the median number of days from joining the liver waiting list to transplant was 306 nationally. In Tennessee, it was 48 days.


online.wsj.com...



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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You know, I originally thought he probably purchased preferential treatment. Your post however is quite an eye opener about the situation. It makes a lot of sense actually. Not to mention the doctors at Methodist here in TN are pretty good, or so I hear.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by kiwifoot
 


I dont know whether he got preferential treatment or not, but I would personally rather have him get a liver than some guy who downed a bottle of whiskey every mornng and didnt contribute anything to the world. Steve Jobs is a great leader and visionary, so I am glad he got the liver he needed.


Hey idiot Steve Jobs has admitted to using '___' and other drugs. What makes you so sure he wasn't a closeted alcoholic himself?

A true leader and visionary? Please. He was funded by a multimillionaire at a young age. He was lucky. He hired the Pepsi CEO saying would you rather sell sugar water to kids your whole life or change the world? Yippie....let's sell mindless technology and Apple Iphones to teenagers instead of sugar water? I don't think he's a visionary at all. Our children and our society as a whole are technojunkies. Our kids are being polluted with stupid cartoons (Pixar films) and computer games/Ipods/Cell phones. You might be a technogeek yourself so that's why you have such high admiration for someone like Jobs. But he's a businessman like anyone else. A very rich businessman. And he's probably had to step on a lot of toes to get to where he's at. I'm sure he pays the janitor that cleans the toilets at Apple's headquarters $100K a year with great medical benefits right? You're a fool like most Americans who idolize these CEO's. A visionary? LMAO!



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy

Originally posted by grapesofraft
reply to post by kiwifoot
 


I dont know whether he got preferential treatment or not, but I would personally rather have him get a liver than some guy who downed a bottle of whiskey every mornng and didnt contribute anything to the world. Steve Jobs is a great leader and visionary, so I am glad he got the liver he needed.


Hey idiot Steve Jobs has admitted to using '___' and other drugs. What makes you so sure he wasn't a closeted alcoholic himself?

A true leader and visionary? Please. He was funded by a multimillionaire at a young age. He was lucky. He hired the Pepsi CEO saying would you rather sell sugar water to kids your whole life or change the world? Yippie....let's sell mindless technology and Apple Iphones to teenagers instead of sugar water? I don't think he's a visionary at all. Our children and our society as a whole are technojunkies. Our kids are being polluted with stupid cartoons (Pixar films) and computer games/Ipods/Cell phones. You might be a technogeek yourself so that's why you have such high admiration for someone like Jobs. But he's a businessman like anyone else. A very rich businessman. And he's probably had to step on a lot of toes to get to where he's at. I'm sure he pays the janitor that cleans the toilets at Apple's headquarters $100K a year with great medical benefits right? You're a fool like most Americans who idolize these CEO's. A visionary? LMAO!


Sorry mate, I have to take the rap for that, I called him a visionary, my bad!



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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Do you think Steve Jobs (worth $3.7 Billion) bought his donor liver?


Yes. Just like David Crosby did in 1995.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 06:17 PM
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He needs half a liver from Linus, so Apple could contribute to Linux development.



I'm just sayin'...



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by Zosynspiracy

Hey idiot...


Your point of view is appreciated, but you might consider being more civil 'round these parts



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 06:49 PM
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Do I think his wealth helped him get a liver? Yes.

Do I think he bought a place on the transplant list, or that there is a seperate system for the wealthy? No.

The biggest factor in transplants is time. Jobs having access to rapid transportation and not having to rely on airlines, probably was a major factor.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 08:48 PM
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as a medical doctor whose own father passed away from pancreatic cancer last year, i will tell you unequivocally, if he had metastatic pancreatic disease to the liver (which he probably did, and probably got following a whipple procedure or other resection), he got what most patients don't because of his fame, influence, and $. metastatic disease is NOT an indication for liver transplant.

Sadly, this is the sad state of transplantation: influence and power quietly get organs. Donate a hospital wing and you too can live longer than others.

Next time you bash socialism, remember that capitalism has enabled this and 40 million+ uninsured, all to appease "free market forces" (translation: all so a few get very very rich)

peace
a disgruntled middle class physician



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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your comment is uninformed. private jets don't get you to the transplant.

see my post nearby.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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Interesting read. I was thinking something similar along the lines. I wouldn’t go out and say he bought a liver though. I would probably say his $3.7+ Billion worth helped him acquire a liver. Here is another article discussing the very same thing and it actually goes into detail about the whole “Waiting List” and “Transplant” information. A really good read as well.

Did Steve Jobs’s Money Buy Him A Faster Liver Transplant?


What I would do though, and I do not know how to go about doing it, is monitor Apple and Steve Jobs donations for the next couple of months. I’m pretty sure that he will probably be generous enough to thank the people that helped him acquire a new lease on life via monetary donations. Then just see if there are any links between the transplant and said place money is donated.


~Ghost~



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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Ummm... Did Steevo quietly donate a hospital wing?


Sadly, this is the sad state of transplantation: influence and power quietly get organs. Donate a hospital wing and you too can live longer than others.


Now... I don't disagree that wealth cuts corners here and there, but I need to see some proof before I sell all my shares of AAPL



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 11:07 PM
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I think he did. Otherwise it would have taken much longer, although I don't know how long he was on the list.

I think that if he really needed it and couldn't get it in time, he would have gotten it somehow because of who he is.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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Come on now. Do you really think a high profile person like Steve Jobs would stoop to buying his way up a donor list? If he got caught, that would be devistating to him, his legacy, and AAPL.

Give the poor man some dignity... It's bad enough that he chose to keep the macinslosh on a closed platoform all those years ago





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