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posted on Feb, 9 2003 @ 08:33 PM
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www.rosslynchapel.org.uk...

Upon discovering this website now I'm REALLY interested in Rosslyn Chapel, I always had a mild curiosity for...obvious reasons
but I think anyone who never heard of the chapel should visit that site at least.

And anyone who might no something about the chapel, feel free to strike up a discussion of all the symbols within it.

It's because of this chapel I wonder about that "Left hand Right Hand Evil Good" thing.

Sincerely,
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posted on Feb, 9 2003 @ 08:37 PM
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Woah holy smokin' crap...anyone believing in the "NWO" is gonna be curious about this


There are 32 different arch types found within the chapel, not to mention that the geometrical pattern for the chapel was the double equilateral triangles.

Feel free to have fun researching this baby out, because it is the penacle of Opperative Freemasonry's work.

Other such Masonic sybolisms include the "apprentice pillar" and the roof, which is overlayed with the starry heaven "Blue Lodge".

As you can see this is quite an interesting place
and plenty to research and discuss about it, as I've seen some places people try and say Freemasons never built it, and other's say that "well everything is aligned to the left (evil)" or something like that, but stuff that doesn't really fit when you look at the floor plans...just weird, have fun


Sincerely,
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posted on Feb, 10 2003 @ 06:01 AM
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Iím very surprised that you didnít already know about Rosslyn Chapel, FreeMason. Itís sort of like Mecca for students of many esoteric schools. Although itís only about 130 miles north of me and I havenít yet visited, I intend to someday. I love Edinburgh and any excuse to visit the area, especially around the time of the ìFringe Festivalî is fantastic.

Since youíve found the site, I wonít bother to repeat information that you may already have. There have been a couple of TV documentaries about Rosslyn Chapel also.

I contacted the Chapel about 3 years ago and they sent me a hardback copy of the book entitled, ìRosslyn: Guardian of the Secrets of the Holy Grailî, by Tim Wallace Murphy and Marilyn Hopkins. Another interesting book, which you may already know about is, ìThe Temple and the Lodgeî, by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh.

By reading The Temple and the Lodge, I was finally to understand and make sense of the age old connection between Scotland and France and also why Freemasonry has a ìScottish Riteî.

What we consider to be the Chapel today is actually only a small part of Earl William St. Clairís (Sinclair) original plans. His intention was to leave a lasting coded memorial of the hidden esoteric knowledge that was handed down by the Knights Templar. Unfortunately, the Earl died before he could oversee the completion of his masterpiece. The St. Clair (modern Sinclair) family is believed to have been entrusted with the guardianship of the legacy, wealth and knowledge of the lost Knightís Templar secrets.

I think I may begin reading both those books again now!

Cheers,
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posted on Feb, 10 2003 @ 08:10 AM
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The belief about the Knights Templar is that they were warrior monks who dedicated themselves to protecting Christians as they made pilgrimages to Jerusalemís holy sites. However, Iíve read a conflicting theory that their true intention was to excavate Solomonís Temple and find his hidden treasure, which included many ancient texts, secrets and relics of Divine power. It has been documented that the Templars did spend 10 years excavating the temple and are believed to have found some, if not all, of what they were looking for. Below is some additional information relating to their excavation there with some Rosslyn Chapel links.

Upon arrival in Jerusalem, the Knights (under the patronage of this Vatican appointed Monarch of Jerusalem) proceeded directly to the Temple Mount, the ancient site of the Temple of Solomon, and immediately began excavating the (even then) ancient ruin. It is for this work that they received their name, the Knights of the Temple (Knights Templar).

According to Knight and Lomas in The Hiram Key, the Temple of Solomon was a structure designed under the precepts of "sacred" geometry by the earliest progenitors of Freemasonry, and was laid out in such a way as to invoke the essence of the Egyptian myths of Isis and Osiris. According to the Royal (British) engineers who later examined the excavations of the Templars (in 1867), the Knights in 1118 found a secret room beneath the Temple Mount, apparently knowing exactly what they were looking for and where to find it. Just what they found is the subject of legend, but it has gained scholarly support recently.

According to the European Templar Heritage Research Network:

On the exterior of Chartres Cathedral, by the north door, there is a carving on a pillar, which gives us an indication of the object sought by the burrowing Templars, representing the Ark of the Covenant, but in a rather strange context. The Ark is depicted as being transported on a wheeled vehicle. Legend recounts that the Ark of the Covenant had been secreted deep beneath the Temple in Jerusalem centuries before the fall of the city to the Romans. It had been hidden there to protect it from yet another invading army who had laid the city to waste. Hugh de Payen, one of the original nine Templar Knights, had been chosen to lead the expedition mounted to locate the Ark and bring it back to Europe. Persistent legends recount that the Ark was then hidden for a considerable time deep beneath the crypt of Chartres Cathedral. The same legends also claim that the Templars found many other sacred artifacts from the old Jewish temple in the course of their investigations and that a considerable quantity of documentation was also located during the dig. While there has been much speculation as to the exact nature of these documents, a reasonable consensus is emerging that they contained scriptural scrolls, treatises on sacred geometry, and details of certain knowledge, art and science -- the hidden wisdom of the ancient initiates of the Judaic/Egyptian tradition.

Until very recently these legends received short shrift from academic historians, but that situation is undergoing considerable change. One modern archeological discovery tends to support the speculative scenario that the Templars knew where to look and precisely what they were seeking.. The Copper Scroll, one of the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered at Quamran, tends to confirm not only the objective of the Templar excavations but also, albeit indirectly, gives some credence to the bizarre concept of the transmission of knowledge through the generations that led to the original Templar discoveries underneath the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

The Copper Scroll, which was unrolled and deciphered at Manchester University under the guidance of John Allegro, was a list of all the burial sites used to hide the various items both sacred and profane described as the treasure of the Temple of Jerusalem. Many of these sites have been re-excavated since the discovery of the Copper Scroll, and several of them have disclosed not Temple treasure but evidence of Templar excavation made in the twelfth century.

After their excavations were completed at the Temple Mount, the Knights returned to their native lands. Two of them ventured to Rosslyn, Scotland, where they set up their headquarters. Shortly afterwards, the Knights were given the official seal of the Roman Catholic Church, and their numbers swelled as wealthy landowners and aristocrats joined their ranks. The Templars went on a binge of Temple construction and brought back many sciences, such as astronomy, from the holy land. Their order grew in stature, wealth and power quickly, and they won battle after battle against the Muslims during the various crusades. Their secret power was supposedly that they held possession of a piece of the true cross of the crucifixion of Christ (probably found in the Temple Mount excavations). This gave them powers over their enemies in battle and they were said to have never lost a battle while in possession of the Cross.

They eventually lost the Cross in the battle of Hattin in 1187 to the Muslim Saladin. After marching on July 2nd, the Templars were surrounded and cut off from water supplies. On July 4th, they broke ranks in thirst and panic, abandoned the encampment and the Cross, and were wiped out by Muslim forces. (These two dates later would become crucial -- not only in the Templar-inspired formation of the United States of America (as we shall see), but in the continuing "hidden ritual history" of NASA as well.)

Ultimately, despite the loss of the Cross, the Templars apparently became a threat to the Church itself. The Pope and the nearly broke King of France, Philip le Bel (1268-1314), plotted to undermine the Order and seize their considerable treasures in France. On Friday, October 13th, 1307, the King's men moved against the Knights and arrested many of them. (This is also why Friday the 13th is now considered unlucky).

Although the Papal conspiracy with King Philip succeeded in obtaining various "confessions" under torture and a considerable sum of Templar wealth, the conspirators never found the ultimate Templar treasure itself -- which by now had been secreted away to Scotland. Even so, most of the Order was wiped out in the 10/13 raid (the leader, Jaques de Molay, was burned at the stake), and its members scattered across Europe ... and beyond. On March 22, 1312, the Church officially dissolved the Order by Papal Bull (this date also subsequently became significant, in not only the Nazi movement in Germany but also was another recurring NASA ritual date). Surviving German members formed the Teutonic Knights, and the Scottish members went underground ... only to eventually re-emerge as the Freemasons.

Whatever ancient relics and treasures the Templars held from their Jerusalem (and other Holy Land) excavations, they were from this moment on secreted away beneath Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland, in much the same way these same artifacts were once buried under the Temple Mount itself. The Chapel itself bears no resemblance to a Christian structure, as many experts who have surveyed it have verified; remarkably, it is laid out along the same architectural lines as the Biblical dimensions given for the original Solomon's Temple.

During the last few years there has been an enormous increase in the number of treasure salvage expeditions. Huge quantities of lost treasure are being recovered. News reports of dramatic finds from all over the world have become commonplace. A stream of articles have appeared describing the recovery of multi-million dollar fortunes from sunken ships and secret treasure-laden chambers. Sometimes the discoveries are made right under our noses.

Advances in modern technology lie behind the recent boom in treasure hunting. The availability of high-resolution satellite images, the development of ground-penetrating radar, portable seismic and sonar detectors, computer image enhancement and low-cost proton magnetometers have revolutionised the age-old quest for treasure. These days, anyone can produce a detailed map of magnetic anomalies and subterranean caverns quickly and cheaply.

It is now possible to detect and recover sunken treasures from depths unimaginable even a few years ago. Unmanned robots steered by remote video link can dive several miles beneath the ocean waves. Side-scanning sonar can probe the deepest marine trenches and identify the remains of long-lost vessels waiting to be salvaged.

The cost of mounting an expedition is comparatively low, especially when using remote operated vehicles. The rewards of success can stagger the imagination. A typical treasure wreck can yield anything from a few million to several hundred million dollars. Land based treasure hoards can exceed that by an order of magnitude. Salvage expeditions financed by private consortia are springing up all over the world as people rush to join the great treasure bonanza.

Treasures have been hoarded, fought over and lost since the dawn of civilisation, when man first began to seek out and refine certain metals for their unique properties. Gold and silver were the first examples. Their appeal has endured to the present day. These noble metals were first used for religious purposes. Later, as primitive civilisations matured into trading nations, gold and silver became the principal means for storing wealth. Royal treasuries and temples accumulated vast hoards of precious metals, which soon became the envy of less fortunate neighbours.

Many great treasures were plundered and transported all over the ancient world by conquering armies. Bloodthirsty Mongol nomads under the command of Gengis Khan (1162-1222 AD) swarmed across the Steppes stripping every ounce of bullion from the coffers of cities from China in the east to Poland and Hungary in the west and as far south as the Middle East. Gengis Khan's treasure has disappeared from the annals of history. It was reputedly buried in his vast underground tomb in the trackless wilderness of Outer Mongolia. The burial party of 5,000 was said to have been slaughtered by an inner circle of faithful soldiers who themselves were executed and so on until not a single witness remained to reveal the tomb's location.

Ceaseless wars throughout history served to concentrate regional wealth into larger and larger hoards, until it represented the accumulated wealth of countless empires and kingdoms engaged in centuries of trade. Security soon became an important issue. Many ancient treasures were stored in secret vaults whose location was known only to a few high priests or royal aides.

Sometimes the earth reclaimed her precious fruits when floods, famines, epidemics, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and storms sent her treasures back to the depths of her womb.

Some of the world's lost treasures lie in fairly shallow waters, often within sight of land, lightly covered in sand and silt. The owners have long departed this world, many perished in the very storms that sent their precious belongings to the bottom of the sea. Time and tide have obliterated their memory from history.

Some treasure lies far out at sea, in the deep, dark waters beyond the continental shelf. Those wrecks usually lie on the bottom with hardly a trace of overlying silt or sediment. The cold, still ocean depths protect them from decomposition and dispersal. They are the mother lodes of many sunken treasure quests. The ships, blown off-course by raging storms and swirling seas, drifted far from the ancient trading routes before disappearing into the depths without leaving a soul to tell the tale.

Many treasure wrecks have lain beneath the waves for centuries waiting to be salvaged, their precious cargoes worth thousands of times more today than when they were lost.

Some treasures lie buried beneath the earth in caves, tunnels and secret chambers under shrines, tombs, holy mountains and other sacred places. Tribes, peoples and entire civilisations, who have long since vanished from the face of the earth, concealed them in places whose locations are now blurred by the mists of time.

Amongst the most famous of such lost treasures are those of King Solomon, the Second Temple of Jerusalem, the Cathars, the Knights Templar and the Incas of South America. All are religious treasures comprising vast quantities of gold and silver. Curiously, those who accumulated the treasures shared common religious beliefs and practices and many of them perished through religious persecution.

The most striking link between them is Christianity. The Judaeo-Christian Scriptures contain many cryptic references to "treasure". It was Christian Conquistadors who destroyed the Inca civilisation in their quest for the City of Gold, the fabled Eldorado. Many of the Conquistadors were remnants of the Knights Templar, whose full title was The Order of Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ and the Temple of Solomon (Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Salomonis). The Order was destroyed by the religious persecution of Phillip IV and Pope Clement V in 1307 AD. Adherents to the "gnostic" heresy of the Cathars had met with a similar fate in the previous century.

In the aftermath of the First Crusade of 1096 AD, a small group of noblemen led by Hugues de Payens presented themselves before Baldwin II, King of Jerusalem, proposing to form a monastic order of knights, taking vows of poverty, chastity and obedience, in the service of the Holy Land. They were granted quarters in the Al-Aqsa Mosque, which was built on the site of the second Temple of Solomon, destroyed by the Romans in 68 AD.

The early history of the Knights Templar is shrouded in mystery. It appears that the original founders undertook their mission after one of them had been on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land and returned with an ancient scroll. Once they had established themselves at Jerusalem's Temple Mount, which is also known as Mount Zion, they began secret excavations. Not long after that, they became enormously rich and powerful.

The fabulous wealth of this secretive Order was almost certainly acquired after the discovery of a treasure scroll hidden beneath the floor of the Temple ruins. Subsequent excavations in and around Jerusalem unearthed as much as 1381 tons of gold and silver. The Knights quickly became the most powerful military organisation in the medieval world. The original treasure was increased many times over during the course of their 200-year tenure by international trade, intrigue, banking, spoils of war and ransom payments for the many kings and princes they had captured during their military campaigns.

Recent research indicates that the Knights Templar had discovered the Americas about 150 years before the voyage of Columbus. Secret trading with the New World, mainly for gold and silver, could have accounted for much of their great wealth.

The Knights' monastic Order was answerable only to the Pope. In all other respects it was completely independent and autonomous. The Catholic Church eventually disbanded the Order and excommunicated its members as heretics.

A few outposts of the Order in Spain and Portugal survived the Pope's persecution. Christopher Columbus may have been a member of the Portuguese Order of Christ. Persistent rumours that he had a map of the New World before setting off on his first voyage across the Atlantic now seem plausible.

The Knights Templar had a large fleet based at La Rochelle on the Atlantic coast of France. Just before the mass arrest of the Order's members on Friday 13th, October 1307, a group of 24 Knights set sail in 18 galleys. They were not seen or heard from again. The rest of the Order was captured and subjected to horrific tortures. Many were burnt at the stake. But, despite this, none of their fabulous treasure was ever recovered.

The Order's battle flag, the skull and crossbones motif, popularly known as the Jolly Roger, soon became the symbol of pirates and privateers throughout the world, around whom stories of buried treasure abound. The whereabouts of the Knights and their treasure has vexed the imagination of many generations since that fateful Friday the thirteenth.

We can only speculate about the first Templar scroll, however, there are other cases of scrolls being unearthed in the Holy Land. Eusebius, the Church historian, reports that a version of Psalms, "was found at Jericho in a jar," by Origen, the early Church Father, sometime between 211 and 217 AD2.

We also know from writers such as Al Qirqisn, Al Brn and Shahrastn that similar finds were made in the ninth and tenth centuries AD. Those scrolls were said to have belonged to a religious group called the Maghrya, or Cave Sect, named from the location of their writings. The finds led to the establishment of a Jewish Karaite community in Egypt, which was condemned as heretical by Orthodox Judaism. Their doctrine bore remarkable similarities to writings recently found near the Dead Sea.

In 1947, a Taamireh Bedouin goatherd discovered a cache of scrolls in a cave on the north-western shore of the Dead Sea. The finds eventually came to the attention of scholars and many more scrolls were found in nearby caves. Some of the scrolls had been stored in jars and were almost complete, but most had survived only as tiny fragments of brittle parchment that had to be pieced together with painstaking care.

Scholars soon realised that the Scrolls had been hidden a few years after the Crucifixion and bore remarkable similarities to the New Testament Gospels. They were a missing link between Judaism and Christianity and the oldest Scriptures ever found, much older than papyrus fragments discovered in Egypt, at Nag Hamadi in 1945 and Oxyrhynchus in 1897 and 1903.

In March 1952, amongst new finds in the area was a document indented on sheets of copper that had been riveted together and rolled up like a scroll. The pure metal had almost completely oxidised and split into two pieces along a join. It proved impossible to open the two halves of what became known as the Copper Scroll. Eventually, between the summer of 1955 and the spring of 1956, it was cut into strips at Manchester College of Technology under the supervision of a leading member of the International Scroll Team, John Allegro, who published the first translation3.

The Copper Scroll is an inventory of buried treasure from the Temple of Jerusalem. The last item, number 61, reads, "In the Pit (Shth) adjoining on the north, in a hole opening northwards, and buried at its mouth: a copy of this document, with an explanation and their measurements, and an inventory of each thing, and oth[er things]"4. The "pit" was situated beneath the great Altar of the Temple, described in detail within the Mishnah and by Josephus.

The fortuitous discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls has enabled researchers to begin piecing together the possible fate of the Templar treasures. It soon became apparent that the key to the mystery lay in understanding the significance of the references to treasure in the Holy Scriptures and the Knights Templar's apocalyptic interpretation of Christianity.

This research has thrown new light on the origins of Christianity itself, an extremely controversial subject. The guardians of the Orthodox Christian and Jewish faiths have succeeded in keeping many of the Dead Sea Scrolls out of the public domain for nearly fifty years. It was only in the early nineties that controversial material from the Dead Sea caves was published outside the narrow confines of theological scholarship. Even so, some of the Dead Sea Scrolls will not be published until the second or third year of the next century, and some have mysteriously vanished.

There seems little doubt now that the Knights Templar had modelled their Order on a Jewish monastic sect called the Essenes, previously known through the writings of ancient authors such as Josephus, Philo and Pliny the Elder. Modern scholars have identified their monastic settlement as that of Khirbet ("ruins of") Qumran. The ruins stand on a cliff-edged plateau overlooking the Dead Sea some 20 miles east of Jerusalem at Wadi Qumran, directly to the south of Jericho.

The Dead Sea lies 1,300 feet below sea level. The river Jordan flows into the bitter salt lake at the bottom of a rift valley, the deepest on earth, plunging steeply through a rocky desert known as the wilderness of Judaea. The basin is bounded by a series of descending cliffs and plateaux scored by narrow gorges and gullies.

The Dead Sea Scrolls were found in caves close to the ruins of Qumran, some barely a stone's throw from the site.

The Jewish warrior-priests or monks who feature in the Scrolls called themselves the Sons of Zadok, after Zadok, the high priest who had anointed King Solomon, and from whom they claimed descent. They also referred to themselves as the Sons of Justice5. The monastery or fortress at Qumran was built on an eighth or seventh century BC ruin, now identified as Secacah, the Biblical City of Salt.

In addition to several caches of sacred treasures and scrolls within the confines of Mount Zion, the Copper Scroll identified five other sites where treasures were buried. One of those was Secacah, on the Vale of Achor, the site of Khirbet Qumran.

A recent excavation beneath the plaster floor of the ruins at Qumran has revealed a hoard of gold coins: 558 Tyrian tetradrachmae, weighing about 20 lbs6. The hoard was not listed in the Copper Scroll's inventory.

In the last few years, the pieces of this epic jigsaw puzzle have begun to fall into place. The puzzle ranges across a huge swathe of geography and encompasses a 3,500-year period of human history. Almost every major religion and many minor ones are represented, including Jewish and Christian mystical and Gnostic sects that have been declared heretical. We also find traces of what were once thought of as myths and legends, such as the Templars' mysterious quests for the Holy Grail (Graal) and the Ark of the Covenant. The Ark disappeared from the Temple of Solomon during King Manasseh's reign (687-642 BC).

The strange coincidences and synchronicities surrounding the Biblical treasures do not appear to have been noticed by the early theological scholars of the Dead Sea Scrolls. They were more concerned with minimising the impact of the Scrolls on Orthodox Christian and Jewish doctrine and gave little thought to solving one of history's most enduring mysteries. Their concerns lay in reburying the Scrolls under literally thousands of tangential theories and re-interpretations that have created a quagmire of confusion for those searching for the truth.

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posted on Feb, 10 2003 @ 12:53 PM
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Yeah thanks Deepwater, I knew of Rosslyn Chapel and read about its Apprentice's Collumn, but I never read that much about it as I had just now, it is all very interesting.

And Temple and the Lodge is a good book, I should re-read that


Sincerely,
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posted on Feb, 10 2003 @ 02:12 PM
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Freemason,If you read Hirams Key it tells you alot about the chapel as the Authors have visited it several times and the links with Templars sailing to A..MERCIA.. Also in the chaple are carvings of Maize which hadn't been discovered until later so did the templars travel to america from scotland.
Beneath the Chapel is underground vaults,people have tried to enter them via inside the chapel but the goverment and authoritys have tied it up with red tape so no one will find out whats down there.Maybe one day people will know what secrets the Freeemasons laid to rest..

Read the Book!!!!



posted on Feb, 11 2003 @ 03:07 AM
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i have read the book hirams key...and there is some info about chapel...great book!



posted on Feb, 14 2003 @ 09:55 AM
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I'm not far from the chapel, and have been told excavations are going on right now, started about a fortnight ago. Some one also said they seen it on the local news, though i missed that. Part of me wants them to find it, and another part really doesnt. If they find it, especially at this time, i think that it will be message to the world. but it is what the message will be that scares me. We could be entering a very strange, if facinating time.



posted on Feb, 14 2003 @ 12:48 PM
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Oh, guys, speaking of the Knights Templar, anyone got an idea what I'm about to acquire? A presentation Knights Templar sword. Yup. The owners of the sword have NO idea what it is worth today. I think I will rent it out to a meuseum or something. Who knows?

regs out...


arc

posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 11:31 AM
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It probably doesn't need stressing, but I'd still like to add my opinion that the Hiram Key, and it's sequal the Second Messiah are two of the most thorough and common sense books I have read on free masonry and the history of the world.

I was lucky enough to know Robert Lomas (one of the authors) whilst at university and I can personally say he is an amazingly intelligent and charismatic person. It was my father (one of the several masons in my family) who recommended I read the books originally.


arc

posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 02:20 PM
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as a further note on the excavations please see this

www.hiramkey.force9.co.uk...

it does appear that whatever is under the chapel warrants an equally controversion cover-up of it's discovery



posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 02:29 PM
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Arc i am also interested in this subject,but i think that such items that have been rumoured to be down there might have been removed..
It seems to easy, do you think they would want us to know?


arc

posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 02:50 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

if the alleged scrolls aren't under the chapel, they may well be in the vatican by now...

because if there are scrolls, and they contain what it is suspected they do, they will show the entire roman catholic church to be built on a pack of lies and misinterpreted symbols



posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 03:43 PM
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The interest in the chapel goes back before now.Why did Hess visit the chapel on the orders of Hitler in his search for the holy grail.

The importance of such a find of religous significance possibly of lost scrolls and other artifacts would be a amazing find.If not the Vatican the Freemasons themselves may have removed said items to protect their own hidden knowledge of their beliefs and origins.


arc

posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 03:58 PM
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why would they want to protect them from public knowledge though? Timing maybe?

It goes against the basic tenants of masonry otherwise. Maybe the right time for the disclosure is now rapidly approaching



posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 03:59 PM
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When i say removed i meant not in recent times.

They will know when the time is right to disclose such information,when it will be most benifical to them.



[Edited on 23-2-2003 by The Real Deal]


arc

posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 04:03 PM
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yeah I guess if Hitler was snooping round them, then that would have been a very good time to remove them to somewhere safer!

what makes you think they would be the only beneficiaries?

[Edited on 23-2-2003 by arc]



posted on Feb, 23 2003 @ 04:44 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest

if the alleged scrolls aren't under the chapel, they may well be in the vatican by now...

because if there are scrolls, and they contain what it is suspected they do, they will show the entire roman catholic church to be built on a pack of lies and misinterpreted symbols

as you posted it would give them a edge on religous beliefs if they do hold such scrolls,but why keep them hidden.



posted on Feb, 24 2003 @ 01:43 PM
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The theories expounded and words written about this small Midlothian chapel are legion. Until fairly recently, the interest in the building and its legends was confined to a relatively small band of people. They tended to be academics, historians and members of various quasi-religious groups, e.g. the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians and the modern Scottish branch of the Knights Templar more correctly known as the Militi Templi Scotia. In the past few years however, the building and its grounds have become a magnet for thousands of people from all over the world almost as if they were on a pilgrimage.

The reasons for this virtual pilgrimage (in spite of appearances to the contrary) are in the last analysis all related to one thing. This is the enduring enigma, whether real or imaginary, created around the alleged arcane knowledge encoded in the myriad of ornate carvings that adorn the building. Plus, and perhaps more importantly the intense speculation about what, if anything, is hidden in the vaults deep below the chapel. If the stories are to be believed, Sir William St.Clair when he inaugurated the building of the chapel, intended to create an enduring legacy, a legacy immortalised in stone, a legacy that was there for all to see, a legacy that would carry occult, ancient knowledge down through the generations.

The building could on many occasions have been desecrated or destroyed, most notably by Oliver
Cromwell, a man not noted for his sensitivity. The fact that he chose to spare it is almost certainly due to its masonic connections. Cromwell was himself a freemason and it is probable that knowledge of Rosslyn and its links with the craft was even then well known. The knowledge encoded in the designs is not intended for the uninitiated; rather it takes the form of images, allegories and precise measurements taken from diverse beliefs and traditions. Masonic, Templar, Alchemical, and Pythagorean teachings all are represented here.

Indeed, it is likely that there is much more hidden among the rich and ornate carvings, the more one looks the more one sees and feels.

There is an indefinable aura of tranquillity and power here, quite separate from the contemplative silence found in most churches; this is an almost tangible sensation. There is in my experience only one other place that has a similar aura and mystique. This is at the alleged birthplace of Jesus Christ beneath the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem where the sense of being in a place of immense spiritual importance is breathtaking.

Link - www.thelosthaven.co.uk...



posted on Feb, 24 2003 @ 06:32 PM
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If you look at the name Rossalyn it means nothing,but if you take the name of the village where the chapel is located (roslin) and break it down Ros. Lin.
In the scottish gaelic dictionary the syllables mean
Ros- Knowledge
Lin- Generation

The name Rossalyn was only devised in the 1950's to make it sound more celtic,so in gaelic it translates to "Knowledge of the Generations"

It was named in the 1100 by Henri StClair after he fought in the crusade and marched into jerusalem alongside Hugues de Payne the founder of the Knights Templar.This was 18 years before the diggings at Herods Temple.
So did the Templars know what they were digging for and was Roslin named for the purpose of holding the secrets that once laid in Herods Temple as the chapel itself is a replica of the temple..



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