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Originally posted by rapunzel222
If you do go on a vegetarian diet however, ensure you get enough protein every day by eating beans/corn/lentils/chickpeas etc instead of meat and maybe eating eggs as well
Originally posted by mikerussellus
I'm still of the school of thought though that years from now they are going to find out that tofu is a 'silent killer'.
Originally posted by mr-lizard
A very good thread that made me think twice when i went food shopping today...
No more red meat for me.
More fish, more veg, more fruit etc.
Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by rapunzel222
causes the cancer cells in rats to grow
Rats are one thing Humans another. Cancer is a lot like swine Flu; talked about much, but less seen.
Cancer has more to do with Genetic disposition than diet.
I just read the Cordain/Campbell “Protein Debate. I recommend it for Cordain’s concise writeup on the evolutionary/archaeological evidence in favor of a high-protein diet. Read Campbell’s stuff for a chuckle, and a good illustration of why nutrition science and the accompanying policy is such a screwup. A few highlights:
Cordain’s paper contains no less than 134 references, and his rebuttal to Campbell contains another 30. Campbell, in support of a low protein, low fat, diet provides, uh, let me count, ZERO citations. He manages a few in his rebuttal to Cordain, but a couple of those are to himself, and only one that I saw appeared to be a peer-reviewed article. He makes some fairly bold statements, like “overwhelming findings on the adverse health effects of dietary protein” and “remarkable healing effects now being routinely accomplished by my clinician colleagues”, again with no citations to supporting peer-reviewed literature.
Campbell’s stance appears to be largely one of “because I said so”. The first sentence in his rebuttal is “My critique of Professor Loren Cordain’s proposition almost entirely depends on my philosophy of nutrition”; as opposed, say, to evidence gathered via the scientific method? In fact, he goes so far as to argue in favor of what is essentially sloppy research in nutrition science. The point Campbell is trying (badly) to make is that making precise measurements of the components of a complex system may do little to increase your understanding of it’s overall behavior (look no further than cholesterol research for a good example of “missing the forest for the trees”). But the fact that complex systems often exhibit the “gestalt” of emergent behaviors does not mean we throw the scientific method out the window in favor of “holistic” hand-waving and arguing about whose bullsh*t “philosophy” is superior.
The prevalence of general obesity (BMI greater than or equal to28 kg m- 2) was 8.0% in men and 12.7% in women, central obesity was 19.5% (greater than or equal to90 cm) and 38.2% (greater than or equal to80 cm), respectively. A four-factor solution explained 28.5% of the total variance in food frequency intake. The vegetable-rich food pattern (whole grains, fruits and vegetables) was positively associated with vegetable oil and energy intake. Prevalence of obesity/central obesity increased across the quartiles of vegetable-rich food pattern. After adjusting for sociodemographic factors and four distinct food patterns, the vegetable-rich pattern was independently associated with obesity. Compared with the lowest quartile of vegetable-rich pattern, the highest quartile had higher risk of general obesity (men, prevalence ratio (PR): 1.82, 95% confidence interval (CI): 1.05–3.14; women, PR: 2.25, 95% CI: 1.45–3.49).
Originally posted by DaMod
My question would be what if I want to continue eating red meat? I'm sure as long as I have a balanced diet of fruits and veggies and add red meat to the equation I would have better all around health than someone who mostly ate fast food and such. Just because I have a steak (with piles of green beans and asparagus and some picked beets and mashed potatoes with maybe a peach or strawberries for desert. mmmmm I'm hungry now.) or a cheese burger every now and again that I am going to be unhealthy and get cancer? I'm sorry but that sounds ludicrous to me.