Does the lust of money make people deceitful?, page 1
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Topic started on 28-6-2009 @ 02:46 AM by In nothing we trust

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. - George Orwell


It seems like the most deceitful people are those who have money or those who covet money. I have tried to pinpoint the demographics of this group. But they seem to cut across all religious beliefs, sexes, sexual preference, ages, race, and economic spectrum of society.

I have noticed that the more money someone has the less value they seem to place upon other people who are judged to be infierior than them. This seems to hold especially true if those people did not earn thier money, but in fact had it given to them. Criminals seem to be less conflicted about thier deceit and do not seem to deny thier deceit.

America is a very deceitful place. It seems as if everything is a lie and everyone is a lier. Even those who have no money are deceitful, they are just not capable of hiding thier deceit, because they tend to be stupider.


Micah 6:12 For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.


Everyone lies when it comes to money. Some lie to keep it, some lie to get it, and others pretend to be impartial in an attempt to get and/or keep it.

Those who rule, only rule by deceit and treachery.


Mark 4:19
And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.


[edit on 28-6-2009 by In nothing we trust]


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 02:58 AM by Kaytagg
I made a related thread on this, called Class Warfare.

You're indeed right. Money makes people do terrible things, and the more they have, the more entrenched in their deceitful mindset they become.

This is why I think we need regulations in the "free market." Simply to make it unprofitable for large corporations and people to break the law and hurt people.

If it's not profitable for anyone to profit off the exploitation of people, then no one will do it; the playing field would be equal, and people could still enjoy the fruits of capitalism. Just without the need to hurt other people for profits.


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 03:05 AM by Kaytagg
reply to post by Karlhungis



Couldn't have said it better myself. That's capitalism in a nutshell, and it works very, very well.

Not saying it's the best system ever conceived, but it does seem to work without too much complaint.


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 03:14 AM by helen670
reply to post by Karlhungis



Hi/
Well said!

Money so they say''makes the world go round''
You know what, I think that's a big lie!
It seems that the money goes one way and never comes back!
I think the world would better function if we all were honest...what am I saying,did I say honest?
If money makes the world go round, why is it that there is no money?
And what is it with the banks crying at a loss???...Please who is suppose to believe such a thing!
You hear people suiciding over loss of money....more so the filthy rich to begin with,then a poor or middle class person!
So many LIES out there and yet people fail to see what is going on!

IX
helen


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 03:17 AM by Applesandoranges
Originally posted by In nothing we trust

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. - George Orwell


It seems like the most deceitful people are those who have money or those who covet money. I have tried to pinpoint the demographics of this group. But they seem to cut across all religious beliefs, sexes, sexual preference, ages, race, and economic spectrum of society.

I have noticed that the more money someone has the less value they seem to place upon other people who are judged to be infierior than them. This seems to hold especially true if those people did not earn thier money, but in fact had it given to them. Criminals seem to be less conflicted about thier deceit and do not seem to deny thier deceit.

America is a very deceitful place. It seems as if everything is a lie and everyone is a lier. Even those who have no money are deceitful, they are just not capable of hiding thier deceit, because they tend to be stupider.


Micah 6:12 For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.


Everyone lies when it comes to money. Some lie to keep it, some lie to get it, and others pretend to be impartial in an attempt to get and/or keep it.

Those who rule, only rule by deceit and treachery.


Mark 4:19
And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.


[edit on 28-6-2009 by In nothing we trust]


So does that make America the whore of Babylon? LOL
I read the parable about this in the ringing cedars. How they created slaves and then made them believe in false freedom by giving them a coin to feed, clothe and house themselves into an even bigger deception, being a salve to the system.


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 03:46 AM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by In nothing we trust



What is money? I ask because you seem to know, but from what I have read in the Constitution and the UNITED STATES CODE, the "money" you speak of does not exist.


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 03:55 AM by helen670
reply to post by In nothing we trust



Hi/
That ugly pic reminded me of something I had read....and the Mystery Babylon!!!
please look into the link!


The Great War With Russia (1854-1856) Anti-Christian forces led by imperialist neocons in Washington have used their EU puppets to take over part of Serbia against the rule of international law. We are reminded that the ever-greedy EU is already trying to absorb neo-calendarist Greece, Cyprus, Bulgaria and Romania in its attempt to colonise (‘Westernise’/’modernise’) and so destroy Orthodox Eastern Europe.

THE Great WAR~

ICXC NIKA


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 03:57 AM by In nothing we trust
Originally posted by pluckynoonez

What is money? I ask because you seem to know, but from what I have read in the Constitution and the UNITED STATES CODE, the "money" you speak of does not exist.


No money exists. It is just a means of exchange.


U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;



If we look at this particular phrase we can deduce that the US Congress borrowed money from the Federal Reserve based upon the good credit of the US.


To borrow money on the credit of the United States;


The powers that be have jepordized thier good standing with the people which puts the banking relationship of the United States at odds with the Federal Reserve.

Forfeit the union or forfeit the 3rd national bank of the US. I think at this point the choice is redundant.

[edit on 28-6-2009 by In nothing we trust]


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 04:05 AM by Applesandoranges
Originally posted by helen670
reply to
post by In nothing we trust



Hi/
That ugly pic reminded me of something I had read....and the Mystery Babylon!!!
please look into the link!


The Great War With Russia (1854-1856) Anti-Christian forces led by imperialist neocons in Washington have used their EU puppets to take over part of Serbia against the rule of international law. We are reminded that the ever-greedy EU is already trying to absorb neo-calendarist Greece, Cyprus, Bulgaria and Romania in its attempt to colonise (‘Westernise’/’modernise’) and so destroy Orthodox Eastern Europe.

THE Great WAR~

ICXC NIKA


Helen that was also described in the ringing cedars books.



reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 04:09 AM by pluckynoonez
reply to post by In nothing we trust



"No money exists. It is just a means of exchange."

Bingo, bango, bongo...someone read HJR-192.

[edit on 28-6-2009 by pluckynoonez]


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 04:16 AM by helen670
reply to post by Applesandoranges



Hi apples/

I did have a quick glance at the site you stated, but havent come across this one article?
The reason I wasn't happy about that site is because of the meditations and the crystals mentioned..
I just believe it is New Age stuff that cannot be mixed with teachings of Jesus Christ.
Well, thank you for the reply,

ICXC
helen
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