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posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 12:39 AM
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I have been looking at a lot of views, and here is the conclusion.

New World Order:

1. Why?
well, because it is the only way, and it is inevitable in this society. because of our choice of society, it is going to be violent.

2. Can we stop it?
Yes and No. Yes, by just not participating in anything to do with a government. work as communities mainly. No, because its at the point where they don't really need much more to do it, they have it all ready and good-to-go.

3. What do you mean, inevitable?
it works like this. we all start in one place and basically cavemen, split up, lose contact and forget about our ancestors. We discover each other again, thinking we are different due to the affect the world has on our appearance, and either fight, or be friends. Due to money, there is elite. elite, meaning the top, or the big cheese, has the power, because they have had the money to produce actions by paying people to survive. when it comes down to it, its all about survival. the elite of different areas ban together, create a one world government, and decides its time to let everyone else know. depending on the societies sophistication, ours really not being that much, we get angry. they know this, they see it as insigniffigent, they already know of the WAYYY over population control, so they say hey, 2 birds one stone.

4.After?
Well, after is what the New World Order is, a very peaceful almost jacque fresco looking place, with knew secretly hidden technology saved for this step in human civilization. no war, unless ET, and no money, because humans wont make that mistake twice!! we only have enough resources on this planet for 1.5 billion people to survive comfortably, we, have way to many. so this, in a way, is a great thing!! for humanity....not for me and you.




posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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while i dont really have much to say about the NWO itself (other than the fact that i think its ulikely and if it ever existed once, it wouldve split into factions trying for more personal wealth), i have often wondered if NWO-ists ever worry that they may be wrong.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 12:48 AM
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reply to post by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
 


i once did to. until i actually looked at it, and realized its happening, and were stupid for not seeing it coming. as citizens, were stupid.

look at the web, and pick out the definite facts, and come to a temporary conclusion.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 12:55 AM
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Please point me to these definite facts of people trying to create a one world government.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 01:06 AM
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all i have to say is listen to speeches from many governments, look at recent law changing activity in the states, north american union, FEMA, swine flu, its the holocaust remake!

USA today, exactly resembles Germany in the later 1920s.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by gandhi
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all i have to say is listen to speeches from many governments, look at recent law changing activity in the states, north american union, FEMA, swine flu, its the holocaust remake!

USA today, exactly resembles Germany in the later 1920s.


Well Obama is just some Liberal idiot, jackass, and in 3.5 years he will be out of here. Unfortunately, I live in a country full of morons that will vote for someone who says he will hand them anything they want without realising nothing is free. Obama is an idiot, but I wouldnt put him up there with Hitler.

The North American Union is just a trade agreement with good and bad consequences. FEMA isnt doing anything, and pandemics happen. None of this is proof of the formation of a one world government.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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Finding myself constantly surrounded by ignorance and stupidity is very wearisome.

The NWO is NOT good. The intention is for a small group of people to rule over everyone and everything else without any moral compass, without any representation and with no accountability. They will yield people no rights - and treat people simply as machines to do work. This small group will continue to fight among itself and as always they will use innocent people to do it.

Grapesofts assertion that everything is a coincidence is startlingly ignorant - however, the US is going to be starving soon. I can only hope that as starvation and disease wipe people out in the US that they might start remembering what they have been warned about.

However, a large body of them will continue to deny it and say its all bad luck, or that the US people deserve it because they killed so many in other countries.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 01:38 AM
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At naked eye.
Im saying look deeper into it yourself, theres a whole puzzle waiting for you to solve it.

you are simply looking at it and disregarding the facts, or do not no the facts.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by gandhi
4.After?
Well, after is what the New World Order is, a very peaceful almost jacque fresco looking place, with knew secretly hidden technology saved for this step in human civilization. no war, unless ET, and no money, because humans wont make that mistake twice!! we only have enough resources on this planet for 1.5 billion people to survive comfortably, we, have way to many. so this, in a way, is a great thing!! for humanity....not for me and you.


I remember another post where you claimed you had some sort of brain and knew things?

I'm afraid your wonderland will exist only for the rulers. Everyone else will have a moderate life style - not so poor that they become dangerous, not so rich that they can have time to think or stop working.

The technology will never be revealed to everyone - if the NWO take over, they can simply treat everyone else as slaves - they might interact with ET's and we would never know it. There are many who say this is happening now.

You also claim that money will not be used "because humans wont make that mistake twice!!" Cut back on the acid. There is no mistake - money is the tool of enslavement, and the NWO intend to keep everyone enslaved and ignorant. Money will still be used.

There is only one peaceful way out of this mess - if the NWO plans are revealed and they are all destroyed.

Then we have a chance to go forward with no secrets and all work together. While the scum are in control - then there will be no peace.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
while i dont really have much to say about the NWO itself (other than the fact that i think its ulikely and if it ever existed once, it wouldve split into factions trying for more personal wealth), i have often wondered if NWO-ists ever worry that they may be wrong.


That's funny because just yesterday I was thinking as I have thought a few times before.. What if the conspiracy is that there is no conspiracy, just one big clusterf**k operated by a bunch of self righteous semi intelligent morons.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
while i dont really have much to say about the NWO itself (other than the fact that i think its ulikely and if it ever existed once, it wouldve split into factions trying for more personal wealth), i have often wondered if NWO-ists ever worry that they may be wrong.


We're hoping we're wrong. I think most of us scramble about trying to find anything..and I mean anything to prove that they do not exist. Only to encounter another dark fact...
not sure.....

It's not like it's just here on ATS



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 11:37 PM
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Others have relinquished there seat, I see that we have a new heir to the throne, Gandhi, like so many before you have come and indeed slowed or died off here at ATS.
I believe you may have become the new puzzle master, along with this newbie mezmoreyes. Do you know each other by the way ?? You both appear to claim to messengers of sorts, to make contact with us mere humans and seem to want to warn us of coming events, yet your introductions are nothing new to us here on ATS, we see this come and go on a biweekly basis.
If you take a bit of time reading over the Intro threads here on ATS, you will soon see that you are nothing new, you provide regurgitated information that we all already know , but by adding a mystical cryptic analogy of your thoughts.
Who else here on ATS is tired of these self proclaiming prophets recyclin nonsense, with no factual applications ????

Please, the puzzles are tiring, all of us create our own puzzles in our minds, though your just adding to the woes of finding real answers.



posted on Jun, 29 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Amagnon
Finding myself constantly surrounded by ignorance and stupidity is very wearisome.

The NWO is NOT good. The intention is for a small group of people to rule over everyone and everything else without any moral compass, without any representation and with no accountability. They will yield people no rights - and treat people simply as machines to do work. This small group will continue to fight among itself and as always they will use innocent people to do it.

Grapesofts assertion that everything is a coincidence is startlingly ignorant - however, the US is going to be starving soon. I can only hope that as starvation and disease wipe people out in the US that they might start remembering what they have been warned about.

However, a large body of them will continue to deny it and say its all bad luck, or that the US people deserve it because they killed so many in other countries.


You know I've been coming to a realization myself about the NWO-believers. There is an almost religious element of faith and fanaticism among believers. If you disagree you're an idiot, stupid, moronic and everything in between. There are NWO myths said to be true by the believers, hell you even have your own little apocalypse battle with the government in the end.

Oh and of course the United States has it coming, no mention of how many times we've saved the world from dictatorship or nuking, we're just a bunch of lazy snobs who don't believe your rantings so you've created some nice fantasies about us all dying horribly. That sounds a lot like what the creepy outcast kid in high school sat in the back of class drawing in his notebook all day.

The biggest thing however, that you NWO-fanatics don't seem to be able to wrap your head around is that there are people whom will just completely disagree with you. They've seen the evidence you have, they've done the same research, and they just don't come to the same conclusion at all. This will happen it is not a matter of idiocy or willful ignorance, but instead the simple thing of it is that there is not universal consensus. There is no universal truth, and while you may sit and scream and yell until you are purple, you won't get people to believe it if they disagree with you.

The arguments and most of all the regularly scheduled temper tantrums that NWO-believers throw at the world constantly are not compelling to a majority of the population. We the people elected President Obama because we the plurality of the American citizens believed in him, quite the opposite for your side.



posted on Jun, 29 2009 @ 09:20 PM
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Agreed. I've read posts on threads describing the fantasy of standing on the back porch shooting people who are stealing your chickens. (During the revolution).

I become fearful at times that some of these people (not the people on this thread) will work themselves up into such a frenzy, they might actually harm someone. Needlessly.

Things may very well get worse before they get better. I expect they will. But at least now we are getting back to the path that led us to become a great nation. We have been off-track for a while now.

To blame the current administration accomplishes nothing. It's devitalizing, separating, and makes matters worse.

That's my two.



posted on Jun, 29 2009 @ 09:29 PM
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maybe it'll only wipe out the ignorant, greedy and unready, you never know





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Good post btw and welcome to ATS



[edit on 29-6-2009 by warrenb]



posted on Jun, 29 2009 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
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Agreed. I've read posts on threads describing the fantasy of standing on the back porch shooting people who are stealing your chickens. (During the revolution).

I become fearful at times that some of these people (not the people on this thread) will work themselves up into such a frenzy, they might actually harm someone. Needlessly.

Things may very well get worse before they get better. I expect they will. But at least now we are getting back to the path that led us to become a great nation. We have been off-track for a while now.

To blame the current administration accomplishes nothing. It's devitalizing, separating, and makes matters worse.

That's my two.



Thank you, I couldn't have said it better myself. Preparing for the unexpected is one thing, and something I think we should all do, but actively wanting and advocating violence is something very different.

Acting upon these fantasies that some have been having would be terrorism, pure and simple. It is pretty scary sometimes on here, and I would absolutely hate to hear any of my friends reporting on someone from this board hurting the innocent in any way.

Last I checked we were still living in a free nation. Nobody but my editor is telling me what I can and can't report on; I can demonstrate my right to free speech. Nobody is trying to take my gun or even my bow for that matter; I haven't gotten sick from any of my shots, and I haven't had my doctor hand me a brochure on the benefits of doctor-assisted suicide or anything like that.

If things are this free in the scary super-liberal state of California, I'd hope it's going well for everyone else on the NWO front.

If you true believers took all of the energy and thought you put into taking down the NWO and put it to something really productive, we would surely have a stronger and better country!



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