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Vaccines do not stop the spread of viruses!


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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 09:22 PM by xman_in_blackx


Originally posted by 0nce 0nce

Just because you are vaccinated, doesn't mean the viruses will go away.




This is the most important thing now isnt it. None of the literature that accompanies any of the vaccines, does it say that it will prevent anything. It does say, however that even though you have been vaccinated that you may still be infected by the things you have vaccinated against.

Here's the kicker:

Depending on the virus, (e.g. bird flu/swine flu hybrids) the stronger your immune system, the faster you will die. Those with compromised immune systems are the ones who survive. With that said, if the vaccines does what it is "supposed" to do, it increases you immune response which in turn kills you.

Virii are not all in one category and all do not react the same yet people on this forum seem to think they are and do. They paint with such broad brushes.

One last thing.

I refuse to take anyone seriously who uses a term like "antivax crowd" because they have already closed their mind to solutions and possibilities.



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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 05:11 AM by UFODick


Originally posted by xman_in_blackx
Here's the kicker:

Depending on the virus, (e.g. bird flu/swine flu hybrids) the stronger your immune system, the faster you will die. Those with compromised immune systems are the ones who survive.With that said, if the vaccines does what it is "supposed" to do, it increases you immune response which in turn kills you.



Are you serious about this? Isn't it not that the reverse is true? As with the SARS or H1N1 cases, it's people with compromised immune systems that DO NOT make it. The first Asian casualty for H1N1 had "pre-existing heart disease" that WORSENED her infection. She also had a liver disease.



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reply posted on 30-6-2009 @ 10:02 AM by xman_in_blackx


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I am indeed serious about this. Depending on the strain, it is the immune system that kills you when infected. Take ebola, for instance. It is the body's immune system that turns the body to mush, not the virus. Variants of bird flu do the same thing (turns the lungs to mush) which is why it is so deadly.

If you look at any virus, like the common cold, the symptoms you experience are due to your body's immune system fighting the virus.

Don't believe me? Listen to a Doctor discuss it:
Dr Gary Ridenour on Coast to Coast



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reply posted on 15-7-2009 @ 02:43 AM by denynothing


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Well he's right in a way, you do get symptoms from your immune system like a fever and sore throats are your white blood cells destroying your cells that are and aren't infected its quite...and so on and so on. But you can't honestly say that a person with a horrible immune system will survive a disease before a person with a strong immune system. If this is true then why do people with A.I.D.S. an immune deficiency disorder die before an average joe?



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