Originally posted by GreenBicMan
reply to post by Bhadhidar
Yeah, I get what you mean, but here is my problem.
Do you think these are real or fake? Because I guess that changes how you view these.
I think it makes sense honestly (i think they are fake) to carry them like they did.
I also think this is part of a global media disinformation campaign against the US DOLLAR, I base this on obviously more than this, and have listed my
opinions in the up to the minute market thread.
I just think if people were "in the know" they could get these to their destination no problem, and just wouldn't deal with all the drama
associated through "retail" routes.
I mean, if the people can't check what is in their bag, they just can't check, and I don't see how you could have leaks when no one knows what is
in there (the bag/pouch) in the first place... thats the point I am trying to make I guess.
I think the bonds were/are real.
I think the bonds were to be exchanged, or "fenced" for gold, probably in Switzerland, at a significantly discounted rate (thus making some of the
bonds exchanged essentially "worthless"), and that the gold was to be (and probably has been) used to pay off high-ranking individuals in Syria,
Jordan, Iran, and Georgia to further US policy objectives in those countries.
I think that it does not matter whether or not anyone was able to "look into" a diplomatic pouch; the mere fact that a "diplomatic pouch" traveled
from a particular point to a particular point, under the official aegis enjoyed by such parcels, on a particular date, would be enough to raise
intelligence alarms in certain, opposing countries.
It's not what is
IN bag that would raise concerns, initially, it's merely the fact that there
was a bag, and that certain events
followed the arrival of that bag, that could be politically damning.
If "A" delivers a parcel to "B", who happens to be high in the government of country "C", and if something beneficial to "A's" country then
takes place in "B's" country, "D" can then pretty much surmise what was likely in the that parcel; without ever having "looked in it".
I also believe that the "siezure" was staged by US officials, likely with the cooperation of the the Italian government, to provide the US, through
the Treasury department, with an opportunity to
pubiclly discredit the bonds in question.
This public discreditation would accomplish two objectives:
-First, it would establish
Plausible Deniability by declaring the bonds to fakes and/or worthless, the US severes any connection to the
perpetrators of the operations and, more importantly, the
consequential Events of the operation.
-Second, by declaring the bonds (with conveniently published photos) to be fake, the US protects itself from future blackmail attempts, using the
bonds as proof (like the photo negatives of an illicit tryst!).
This declaration
also goes a long way toward
protecting the value of the US dollar, if I'm not mistaken, since, if the world
thinks the bonds are fake, the world will not be concerned over the effect the obligation those bonds represent.
[edit on 28-6-2009 by Bhadhidar]