Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
But I'm not here to answer questions.

What a lame cop-out.

Guess you are here to offer your unfounded opinions accompanied by a healthy serving of innuendo.





[edit on 5-7-2009 by AugustusMasonicus]

[edit on 5-7-2009 by senrak]

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I'm talking to the masons. When I want to talk to a vegetable I'll learn ventriliquism and talk to a cucumber!

That's really great an' all (the vegetable thing), but you've included responses by non-Masons in your posts, referring to them along with the Masonic responses, so I guess we (non-Masons) are included in the discussion whether you like it or not. As ATS members, it's perfectly within our rights to respond to a thread.

If you wanted responses purely by Masons, perhaps you should have started your own thread requesting as much.

I think you can make a valid case that Freemasons is a breeding ground for the Illuminati and the Nwo, but there is a reason for that, because the Masons have had so many high profile members that the Illuminati sees these powerful players and try and draw them in, so there is some validity in that statement, like the Masons that were involved with the Bohemian Grove mock sacrifice and such.


I'd like to talk to a Mason who belongs to the Grove then we would be getting some where, i'd like to here his excuse for the mock sacrifice and the pictures that the Grove released with the real kid strapped to the gerny looking scared to death, now his opinion would be intresting.

Originally posted by King Seesar
...like the Masons that were involved with the Bohemian Grove mock sacrifice and such.


I'd like to talk to a Mason who belongs to the Grove then we would be getting some where, i'd like to here his excuse for the mock sacrifice and the pictures that the Grove released with the real kid strapped to the gerny looking scared to death, now his opinion would be intresting.

Which people in the Bohemian Grove mock sacrifice were Masons?

Originally posted by Roark

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I'm talking to the masons. When I want to talk to a vegetable I'll learn ventriliquism and talk to a cucumber!

That's really great an' all (the vegetable thing), but you've included responses by non-Masons in your posts, referring to them along with the Masonic responses, so I guess we (non-Masons) are included in the discussion whether you like it or not. As ATS members, it's perfectly within our rights to respond to a thread.

If you wanted responses purely by Masons, perhaps you should have started your own thread requesting as much.

Yes but the other responses didn't have your tone or called me "kiddo".

A normal person well understands that there are two sides to every story. I myself in previous posts have praised the masons for the work they do with getting children hospital care etc. But these last pages of posts have opened my eyes. You see to a mason there is only one side of the story, their side! Nothing else matters. . . Someone earlier mentioned brainwashing. Days ago I would have laughed at such a suggestion but after what I've now read it becomes clear that there is a subtle brainwashing taking place in lodges. By building up their self respect to abnormal lengths and giving them a feeling of self importance, coupled with the back slapping and general delight caused by pumping up each others ego's, it's no wonder that they lose grip of reality. Masons are having the part of their reasoning that is inquisitive and questions things slowly removed from their mind. They no longer have the ability to question things as their head is full of nonsense. Why else would an ordinary descent person protect the memory of a racist? And if you would protect the memory of a racist what else would you protect? Perhaps a mason who committed murder? How about a mason who embezzled money? Or how about masons who were enticing well to do men and filling their head with so much mumbo-jumbo that they will do anything to protect their brothers and their lodge? It seems to me that common descency is removed by the lodges and is replaced with over inflated ego's.

without acting like I am on the moral high ground, I would like for the masons responding to this thread to take a step back and read how the last 4-5 pages have gone. We should be a bit better at handling this IMHO. myself included. I think everyone has let the daily irritations carry over into this thread. From the Immortal words of Mr. Rodney King, "can't we all just get along?"

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by King Seesar
...like the Masons that were involved with the Bohemian Grove mock sacrifice and such.


I'd like to talk to a Mason who belongs to the Grove then we would be getting some where, i'd like to here his excuse for the mock sacrifice and the pictures that the Grove released with the real kid strapped to the gerny looking scared to death, now his opinion would be intresting.

Which people in the Bohemian Grove mock sacrifice were Masons?

Since those who attend the celebrations (?) in Bohemian Grove are big and influential businessmen, politicians or royalty I would imagine that a very high percentage of them would be masons. After all, in some walks of life you simply cannot climb the corporate ladder unless you belong to a lodge.

Weird-ass paranoia..

What are these claims based on? Does anyone here actually KNOW any Satanists? As someone in this thread said earlier, many of the pagan religions were demonized by the church. It's quite ironic, since the Jesus-myth is itself based on ancient Egyptian religion.

I wish people would present some evidence, and not base their views on stupid rumors and prejudices. I don't know how Masonry is connected with Theosophy and Rosicrucianism, but I definitely find those two very interesting.

Masons have their freedom of religion, If they want to be a "secret" organization, they have every right to be one. Many times knowledge is kept "esoteric" because of the ignorant, so that they wouldn't drag the secret writings to the mud.

[edit on 6-7-2009 by Tryptych]