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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 06:56 PM by GreenGlassDoor
reply to post by bl4ke360



Read the article. Two of the three girls were from his town. One of the locals was the daughter of his tenant. The third girl was Hanna Montana.

*edited for clarity

[edit on 27-6-2009 by GreenGlassDoor]


reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 07:17 PM by GreenGlassDoor
reply to post by physicalbeing



It doesn't matter. He actively sought two local girls that he knew. Found or taken makes no difference in this issue. They're still the pictured object of his sexual gratification.


reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 07:21 PM by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
reply to
post by bl4ke360



Read the article. Two of the three girls were from his town. One of the locals was the daughter of his tenant. The third girl was Hanna Montana.

*edited for clarity

[edit on 27-6-2009 by GreenGlassDoor]

Well I assumed they were random pictures.

Well this is a different matter, if he knew them personaly then it would be worrying indeed. I still don't think he needs jail time, but instead should be given a warning and should have a professional talk with him to be sure of his intentions and after that simply be cautious.

You help him, and you might have a solution. You dump him in a prison enviroment then your simply adding fuel to the fire in my opinion.

So that is all. Anything like jail time would be in my opinion inhumane as it would be the start of thought crime, punishing people for thoughts instead of helping.

Sometimes the best solution is through compassion, love, understanding instead of dumping them in jail and hope it goes away.

Maybe it's just me trying to see the good in people. Sort of like Kal El/Clark Kent, he always tries to see the good in people, but there are always others who see that as a weakness.


[edit on 27-6-2009 by _Phoenix_]



reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 07:53 PM by free2live
reply to post by mattifikation



Is he really acting on his pedophilia?

Some, including myself, would see it as curbing his urges through the use of masturbation... regardless what he's looking at... its still masturbation.


reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 08:27 PM by trace_the_truth
Originally posted by free2live
reply to
post by mattifikation



Is he really acting on his pedophilia?

Some, including myself, would see it as curbing his urges through the use of masturbation... regardless what he's looking at... its still masturbation.


It's almost as if the guy is being punished for utilizing his own form of therapy so that he doesn't act out on his urges with real children (if he has any).

Hmmm...



reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 08:33 PM by MischeviousElf
An interetsting thought train on this subject is if we take a lot of the initial emotional reaction to it away, and look at it with an openish mind...

My question which I will try and explain below, is that by actually using the emotional knee jerk reaction every normal person has, to child sexual exploitation is the penal/legal system, using the premise of safegaurding the rights of children, to protect them, as a cover in fact a slow creep towards infringing on the rights of all people?
From small acorns big trees grow and all that.

So consider the following, If a person uses a target practise of, as is often the case a famous politician, and actually is shooting them, rather than just observing, well then as we have no proof in any way in the OP case nor the story states he actually had any sexual reaction to these pictures... so therefore where someone is shown to actually not just look but take action on a picture by shooting it, should they be arrested for terrorism if its the president on the target?

Or for Rascism or xenophobia, inciting such acts of they shoot pictures of Osama Bin Laden?

Futher more to bring it to the sexual field, it is a well known fact that the most prevalent sexual "Fantasy" of all legal adults Especially women is the rape fantasy.

Now then if a man watchs a "Fantasy" alone or with his partner, say a film not just pictures of a Rape acted scene, should they then infact be arrested and charged for the liklihood they would actually go and do it?

Is it more likely and abhorrent as its sexual than the emotional pleasure gained from imagining yourself shooting and murdering an Arab, or a politician?

Should the makers of the targets or the films be arrested for inciting such actions to place?

If not why then if a woman of 18 has the physical attributes of a child, and looks like a 9 yr old due to hormones or whatever, and filmed a scene or had photos taken in sexual acts, or even just naked, and this man watched them would it then be ok as she is over 18?

Even if she looked younger than a child of 14 who was all woman in bodily appearance?

Where is the line the real demarcation?

In fact if a man and woman say a husband and wife, ask a freind to partcipitate in a Rape fantasy to fulfill a long desire of theirs should he then be arrested for doing so, or they for inciting him to go and do it on an actual person in the future?

What about the rights of Osama, George bush or other leading figures?

What about the rights and safegaurding of all women esp those who have suffered such sick non consentual things in life?

Should not the photo that is famous of the young vietname girl walking charred, half naked from a Napalm cloud from vietnam era never be published again?

Even though such an image had such an impact on stopping the war worldwide?

As it may be sexual to some?

In fact all those who scream about this man and faces of kids on adult bodies, are apparently so in child rights and protection...
Well you then have to think about the next present you buy for your precious little ones.... where and who made it?



Is that not worrying children working for 14 hours a day 7 days a week to targets getting no education and beaten and kept in bad conditions?

Shouldnt they be protected to?

OH no lets all freak out about a minute amount of terrible events that happen to 1 in a million barbie and ken kids.... and overreact get angry and protect the innocents, whilst our computers we are on now, the goods in Walmart and the Gap sweaters we wear are all made by slave labour... 9 -15 thats 7 years of their life destroyed and abused every day.

You see my point?

Lets get some real things to be angry about not some sexual deviant looking at a childs face on a computer screen but at what happens NOW to these children as follows:


246 million children are child labourers

73 million working children are less than
10 years old.

Every year, 22,000 children die in workrelated
accidents.

The largest number of working children –
127 million – age 14 and under are in the
Asia-Pacific region

8.4 million children are trapped in slavery,
trafficking, debt bondage, prostitution,
pornography and other illicit activities.

1.2 million of these children have been
trafficked.


Source

So for the appaled and string him up crowd, etc....

Well,
Hey go to Walmart in your SUV, all environmental made from plastic collected from children living in rubbish dumps where we ship our recycles to... wearing your gap clothes, where the kids who dyed them still have coloured and cencerous feet, then buy a nice pressie for little innocent made in a sweatshop and then come home and on the keyboard that a 9 or 10 year old slave laboured aver for about $4 a week tell us how sick and twisted this dude looking at those photos is.

Oh the hypocripsy, and enjoy your deviant sweet nothings in your "normal" partners ears next time you both get very very "Nasty"

Telling it as it is, not how we pretend.

Elf.

Edit for link, and readability.

[edit on 27-6-2009 by MischeviousElf]
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