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ABUSE CRISIS: Abusive U.S. Soldier Stories Spring Up In Arab News. Bush Counters With Arab Interview

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posted on May, 5 2004 @ 12:56 PM
The publication of last week's photos of Iraqis being tortured in U.S. run prisons has enraged the Arab world. Seizing on this moment some news agencies are posting fabricated photos, or photos of pictures form pornographic websites as though they were actual events that had taken is a fine example of this problem, as they are now posting pictures from American pornographic websites, "Sex in War" and "Iraq Babes" as news photographs. Also still in question are the photographs the Daily Mirror published last week. As the investigation continues, Army chiefs are convinced that these are photographs are faked. Still who is going to tell the Arab world that seeing is not always believing? The damage has already been done and after the sensationalism dies off Iraqis will only remember the initial shock of seeing the photographs and not the truth that they were forged. In an effort to start damage control, and reassure Iraqi people,President Bush gave interviews to Arab news.

World Net Daily
Graphic photos appearing on Arabic websites of U.S. servicemen raping and sexually abusing Iraqi women were actually taken from American and Hungarian pornography sites. and a Tunisian website produced in France by Committee for the Defense of Saddam Hussein [Comité de Défonce de Saddam Hussein En Tunisie], posted not only the recently broadcast photos of U.S. troops abusing and humiliating Iraqi prisoners but additional ones of alleged group rape of women by American soldiers, some who are depicted holding rifles against their victims' heads.

Does this photograph depict what really happened? Did John Kerry make a speach with Jane Fonda? If we are to believe all of the photographs being circulated in the news, then this proven forgery could be submitted for evidence. Now, everywhere you turn you can find a new story of the U.S. mistreating an Iraqi. While there are always cases of mistreated prisoners during a war, this should not be looked on as an everyday occurrence. At the very least proof should be brought forth to show that the alleged incident actually took place. This would entitle an individual who was at the scene of the incident to come forward and state that the pictures are indeed real.

This current spin on the American and British forces in Iraq is one that resembles the former Iraq information minister, Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf, claims during the war. "There is no presence of American infidels in the city of Baghdad at all." al-Sahhaf would take a single incident, such as a U.S. tank loss and turn it into " Their forces committed suicide by the hundreds." These comments are laughable because of the outrageous claims that they make. What about other fictitious claims that are possible? Can a story be claimed as fact from a photograph alone?

In order to counter these stories, as well as the allegations of Iraqi prisoner treatment, President Bush gave interviews with several Arab news outlets. He stated that 'in a democracy, everything is not perfect, that mistakes are made but in a democracy as well, those mistakes will be investigated and people will be brought to justice." Bush promised a full investigation into the prisoner abuse, and made efforts to reassure the Arab world that the U.S. did not tolerate injustice, even by its own members.

Additional Sources:
Pictures put UK troops' lives at risk, says minister
Fox News- Bush Discusses Prisoner Abuse With Arab Media

[Edited on 5-5-2004 by dbates]

[Edited on 10-5-2004 by SkepticOverlord]

posted on May, 5 2004 @ 01:15 PM

That was first discovered here...

It's amazing at what lengths some "news" sites will go to just to bash the US and UK...

posted on May, 6 2004 @ 10:22 AM
I'd just like to point out that the Kerry/Fonda photo has been debunked as a fake

posted on May, 6 2004 @ 11:47 AM

Originally posted by browha
I'd just like to point out that the Kerry/Fonda photo has been debunked as a fake

You are correct, and this is stated in the article. (Tell me you actually read the article before posting comments!)

If we are to believe all of the photographs being circulated in the news, then this (Kerry/Fonda photo)proven forgery could be submitted for evidence.

posted on May, 6 2004 @ 12:49 PM
I waited for a while before replying to this thread. First I thought, I could better make a "news" submission myself, but this will do.

Iraqi's being tortured in U.S. run prisons, sick enough. Torture till death, is first degree murder in my book.
The fact that the degradation of Iraqi's enrages the Arab world, is purely logical.
Sensationalism is the wrong word, anger is right. Anger about the truth.
A few fake photograph's don't make the difference. The real pictures do.
The fact that some arabic "news" is showing all the pictures, true or fake, is called propaganda, and absolutely expectable.
Yes, many stories can't be claimed to be a fact, from a photograph alone.
Yes, some pictures are taken from sick porn sites, apparently there is an audience for it.
The fact that Britons have been arrested, proves that there are also sources that point the finger towards guilt.
Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf like claims have been comming form the coalition (US) side, since the "ending" of the war.
The fact that some photograph's are fake, has already been reported on this website.
Wouldn't this be a great moment for the U.S. to sign up to the new International Criminal Court, as of proof of integrity?

Its a fact that we have been seeing the top of the iceberg, if these allegations are found to be true...
New Photos Show More Iraqi Prisoner Abuse in Abu Ghraib Prison

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by Hoaks]

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