Is this website being visited by *Agencies*? Yes - without a doubt.
The reason for it however is what is questionable.
For instance, I personally know someone who works for the NZ Security
in my country (NZ).
They were at one time a Member here on ATS.
Not sure if they still are under another user-name...possibly.
His role within NZSIS is/was predominately Intel gathering.
He - and he also said *others* - would spend time surfing various websites. Reading, posting etc.
I asked him why...his response (to the best of my recollection) was:
A number of reasons;
"Some of its actually pretty funny. I don't know everything about everything...and I'm savy enough and experienced enough to know that
what *we're* told by our superiors is also likely half truth and half bollocks anyway. I'd be a sucker to take every internal memo as gospel.
But reading through some of the threads here and other websites...and having some knowledge of some subjects being discussed...really, half the time
we just sit there in the office and send eachother links to threads which are sooo out there its just hilarious. Some of it is more in your line of
work" (I work in Mental Health)
"Its not so much the big events that we are looking for or trying to intercept - as often big events start from lots of smaller ones.
Events tend also not to appear out of the blue...and tend not to be committed by super-secretive groups who only appear out of the woodwork when they
strike. Though hey, occasionally we are caught with our pants down...but you'd be surprised just how much we catch beforehand that the general public
doesn't hear about.
Instead most events, most threats to National Security and the security of our collaberative Nations (I include this bit, as part of the
NZSIS brief is to work with other Agencies in other Nations and assist eachother with Intel)
stems from smaller groups who just talk about it for
a while before rising up and taking action.
Most people are all talk. We know that. But on the odd occasion it'll be someone or some group that just takes it that bit further who represent the
risk and threat as we see it.
Really bro - if you want to catch fish you need to fish where there may be fish swimming...and for us a website such as ATS, that is the largest of
its type, can at times be a shining beacon for the fish we're hoping to catch.
Crazy is as crazy does...and often its just that one rogue crazy who moves from talking it to walking it that becomes the fly in our nations and other
As far as I'm concerned, and how I operate, its not about suppressing the masses. Its not about any NWO world domination thing. Its as simple as
heading off the next looney with a gun who wants to smoke up a school, shoot some nations leader, storm a Govt building, hack a banking system, bomb a
I asked him if they ever posted 'disinfo' or perhaps even in some ways encouraged
some people/posters to see if they were the type of
risk/threat they were hoping to circumvent. His response:
no...but sometimes if you wanna draw out a particular mouse you have to lay out some cheese"
I asked him what they do if/when they find a *mouse*. His response:
"Hahaha...call in the exterminator. No. Kidding. We just flag anything and send if off to our 'superiors' and/or our collaberative Nations. What
they do with it, who knows, probably just sits with the mountains of other crap they must get every day.
Occasionally we'll get a memo back instructing us to monitor something a bit more closely."
Editted to add:
He also said this bit:
"You know bro - who knows whats really going on.
I'm not stupid enough or naive enough to think for a second that I'd ever be part of the 'inner circle' and having such knowledge.
I know I'm just a cog in a much larger machine.
I also know that chances are, by the very nature of it all, that I could be being fed a big feed of crappola right alongside anyone and everyone
I could well be being instructed to monitor specific things in some attempt to divert attention. Slight of hand and distraction, heck, it happens.
There is an element of smoke and mirrors going on...I'd be a fool to think otherwise. Just how much smoke and mirrors is the question.
But seriously you could be forever chasing your tail to find out...it'd do your head in.
Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do, look after your own butt and maybe even accept theres crap you'll never know and get on with living
My response to him:
"Well...yeah, I hear ya. But I guess if we don't question, if we don't seek, then hey we may well wake up one day as slaves to something we can't
stop any more"
"Yeah - sounds good. Sounds nice on principle...in practice however, well, thats the kicker."
[edit on 28-6-2009 by alien]