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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 02:15 PM by SpiritoftheNightSky
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by OmegaPoint
In some cases, I know that people know. I know they're having thoughts that they find to be anomalous to their cultured world view. They simply do
not wish to speak about it because they are unaware that others are thinking similar things. Direct questioning will result in a denial. They must
volunteer to speak.
Speaking to the title of this thread, it is a bit presumptuous to say that "we all fear" it.
I have been lurking about ATS for a while now. So I can't say that I am new here. I found ATS when I started looking for believable answers to things
that seemed out of place or just not right to me.
I used to try to talk to other people about these things but most people just laughed at me or called me names so I stopped trying. The only people I
could really talk to was my Auntie and one of my uncles. But things are starting to change. I have people suddenly talking to me about things that
they would never have discussed before. I have people opening up and admitting to believing things that they once thought of as things that only nut
jobs believed.
After class on Thursday I was shocked when I looked at my watch to find that I had been in a conservation for over "3" hours with a constituent
talking about things that we would never have discussed before. Then yesterday after over hearing a person commenting on the unbelievable prices of
the produce in the local Publix, I made a comment that had me in a conversation with the customer and the produce manager that sounded like something
you would hear in an ATS chat room.
I think people are just starting to finally wake up. It is just too hard to believe the lies when the truth is staring you in the face. I just hope
that it is not too late to make a difference.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 02:18 PM by nine0099thousand
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Futuristically, the carbonized asymmetry that you refer to has allocated almost 62.5% of it's cranial ambivalence. On the other hand, the axiomatic
left portion still has a much higher chance to ameliorate the end of over 90 'tubes'. If you can inoculate your mind's target, there is no reason
to proselytize the storm bunker. However, as you come off as choleric, I can assume that your chiliasm has not persuaded your conclusion.
There is still no clear cupidity or root within this daunting debacle.
Taking us back into time, let us contemplate how the dyspeptic overcame all of them. Not one point in time did Sarah dissolute the ethology associated
with her hair pattern, which ironically enervated the florid subway even after several hard hits from his life partner's aggro and excessive
vicissitudes.
Still, you seem to grasp the idea and you will inculcate the possibilities.
have a good day
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 02:19 PM by visitor-mc
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Part of what we sense about this period is based on actual happenings - such as the economic meltdown, 9/11 and govt corruption, some of it is based
on fear-generated messages by those trying to control others through fear and much is caused by the general waking up of so many due to information
now available through the internet with much disinformation as well as information - - As unnerving as all this is, I have decided to resist the fear
since it seems to be the most negative emotion - yes it has a place, but we lose our ability to reason once fear takes over and then it is much easier
to control others using fear - I refuse to let it rule my life - we will die and we will continue -
This is what I somehow "know" about this existence -
it is for learning - one main lesson is to overcome fear- we are eternal spirits - there is no reason to fear death of the physical - this earth place
is a tough theater and we are here because we are strong enough for it no matter what the time period - we are meant to evolve - so my message to
myself - DON'T QUIT - DON'T SUBMIT -
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 02:23 PM by spinkyboo
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We feel what is true - and we know.
We just don't always believe that what we feel is true.
We have this amazing instinctual quality about ourselves and our own lives -
that has been systematically removed by way of propaganda -
- politics, religion, money, education -
But none of that matters now -
and we feel it - and we know it -
The sham has been outed.
SO... now what?
Our concern now - is getting back to our instincts and listening
to what we feel - to insure our own survival.
We are trying to remember how to do that - how to trust our instincts.
This is what you are seeing on these faces.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 02:27 PM by Sk8rDude7
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I know exactly what your talking about here man..
I have had this same feeling of almost like, doom that something
really big is going to take place, something really bad. I have even
perceived this similar feeling in others, as if they know of something too, but just not what exactly. Im worried to be honest.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 02:38 PM by chiponbothshoulders
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Well gee Gosh......It is somewhat of a shock when people begin to realise that they have sold themselves out to powerful corporations and government
entities which they have no power over.
Entities which they can no longer live without,because they have become lazy and helpless.
They no longer can do for themselves what one has to do to survive........
I realised this long ago,too bad for most of the rest of you though.
As the Architect said in Matrix Reloaded,there are levels of survival we are willing to accept.....
How low are you big mushy supersized americans willing to go?.
I can hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth already.
Just shut up and buck up,pull your head out of your ass as far as you can.
You are helpless and always have been.
If you want your prayers to be granted,pray for death.
Guaranteed to be granted............
always living in fear of the inevitable.
Death just might be the thing we know is coming,and it is.
Everything with a beginning has an end.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 02:46 PM by shuck
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reply to post by GorehoundLarry
I reckon now ..freedoms are monitored..ATS opened my eyes to a lot of things and made me look, research and question..but there will come a time when
we are allowed to question..only so much!
But I have no doubt this site is monitored because while ever the ones that question are in the minority..there is no real threat!!..
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:04 PM by shifthappens
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reply to post by Republican08
i have noticed more people with increasing awareness but with the 'oppressive' sense not to speak too eagerly about it. very hush hush.
the question that came up for me when you sensed this is: if what one looks at is a reflection of oneself (either the positive things in oneself one
is observing or
denying and the 'negative' things in oneself one is observing and/or denying), and since we are becoming aware that we are simply holographic
projections (as all is energy and space with very little 'form' in that space and the 'form' when it is broken down actually becomes energy as
well if the 'thought' 'intends' it in that direction (quantum physics: if the observer sees electrons as 'particles' then they act as
'particles' and if the observer sees electrons as 'energy/wave' beems they they act as energy/waves, which is consistent also with the heisenberg
uncertainty principal) and in the holographic model a miniscule part has the blueprint of the whole in it and the whole can be projected from it as
validated with kerlian/energy type photography and radiofrequency,
could this just be a reflection/affirmation of that which is 'within' which is surfacing?
is there more to this that i am missing or is there some line of reasoning i have missed, but as wayne dyer says: if i leave a town that is 'the
dumps' to get away from it, i will find a new town that is 'the dumps', because it is what i see and focus on and that is usually the unresolved
stuff within me that i need to look at, as i am the only one who i can change. (and that indeed is a tall order, but easier than taking on anyone
else, or the world issues; and from there 'the butterfly effect' or ripple effect so to speak.
your thoughts? i am new here, so appreciate gentle feedback, if one opts to be deeply analyzing.
good post lots of food for thought
these are just mine.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:05 PM by kinda kurious
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First let me say I am enjoying the wisdom and virtue expressed in this this thread. I'd like to think we are on the "brink" of a new age or
enlightenment.
But at a very basic human level, what I see in the eyes of the masses is simply despair.
They have worked most of their lives under the guise of "doing the right thing" and are
finally seeing it was all a crock. A false promise, the career, the house, the car the falsehood of the American Dream. Despite all the trappings,
they feel un-fulfilled and empty. They feel duped and their despair leads to desperation.
I am keenly aware of the dismal attitude and distant stare of which you speak. Many are still simply "going through the motions" the lingering
and residual condition of Pavlov's dog minus the treat.
I gained great optimism from Omega Point and others for sharing their insight and thankful to OP for this thread. I look forward to blue skies ahead
after the imminent collapse. I try to remember that without rain, there can be no rainbow.
I still have hope.
Regards...KK
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:09 PM by ExPostFacto
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From Hopi Prophecy that relates to the OP's observation:
"Many will appear to have lost their souls in these final days. So intense will the nature of the changes be that those who are weak in
spiritual awareness will go insane, for we are nothing without spirit. They will disappear, for they are just hollow vessels for any thing to use.
Life will be so bad in the cities that many will choose to leave this plane. Some in whole groups.
"Only those who return to the values of the old ways will be able to find peace of mind. For in the Earth we shall find relief from the madness that
will be all around us. It will be a very hard time for women with children for they will be shunned, and many of the children in these times will be
unnatural. Some being from the Stars some from past worlds, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be souless. Many of
people in this time will be empty in Spirit they will have Sampacu. No life force in their eyes.
"As we get close to the time of arrival the Purifier there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities, through canyons they will have
constructed in their man made mountains. Those that walk through these places will be very heavy in their walk, it will appear almost painful as they
take each step for they will be disconnected from their spirit and the Earth.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:09 PM by shifthappens
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reply to post by nine0099thousand
do you always speak like this? i thought i was deep analytical and full of some profound words, but i now see i have a lot to master.
very very interesting, and very very insightful, but very deep, detailed, and with an apparent wide depth of insight/knowledge.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:11 PM by SpiritoftheNightSky
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Originally posted by shuck
reply to post by GorehoundLarry
I reckon now ..freedoms are monitored..ATS opened my eyes to a lot of things and made me look, research and question..but there will come a time when
we are allowed to question..only so much!
But I have no doubt this site is monitored because while ever the ones that question are in the minority..there is no real threat!!..
What good is asking the questions when you ignore the answers?
Maybe the ones that live in denial are the smart ones. At least they can find comfort in being able to say they didn't know what was happening.
What can we say?
We knew but did nothing?
I don't have the answers and I don't have the solutions and I really haven't found anyone that is really making any positive attempt at change.
I know that we have visited this disaster upon ourselves because we have lost sight of the things that are really important and that we have fallen
victim to selfishness, greed, ego and materialism.
We have forgotten that the basics of life are built around what we need not what we want. When we put desire before need disaster is sure to follow.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:11 PM by shifthappens
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reply to post by ExPostFacto
this is very good. hit the nail on the head. of course just my thoughts.

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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:15 PM by mrpotatohead
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reply to post by Republican08
The feeling you're describing , I call it a collective consciousness. The human being is still an animal, and can sense trouble. Everyone who is
alert senses this. Hardship, and hunger, weather in the human race, or the animal kindom, turns on senses to a highned awareness. people "know"
something is going to happen--they sense it. We're all waiting for something to happen.
Be patient folks, you won't have to wait much longer. With much of the public feeling the same way, that many people can't be wrong. hang on
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:33 PM by dooper
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It doesn't take keen ears to hear the thunderclap, nor eagle vision to see the sun. It doesn't take great sensitivity to feel the bitter cold, nor
great taste to detect bitterness.
Like birds can detect a coming storm, there is justification for our uneasiness.
The most miserable of human conditions is the state of uncertainty. The most terrible of human conditions is one of certain dread.
One would be amazed at the number of people who are still unaware of the pending storm. The wind is stirring, picking up, the sun has disappeared
behind the front, the darkness increases, the rumble in the distance is felt as much as heard.
Those who heed the signs and prepare for the worst are seldom disappointed.
Those who hope for the best and do not make personal preparations are frequently put at great risk.
Only a small percentage of any general population has the intuition to anticipate, detect, and prepare for these tragic events.
Thus the most base of Darwin's concepts proves itself through the action of the turmoil that manifests itself.
If you don't have a bad feeling in the pit of your stomach, an uneasiness every moment of reflection, or a sense of increasing uncertainty, then if
your destruction comes quickly or slowly, do not be surprised.
It's too late to think of digging a well when you're dying of thirst.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:36 PM by juzchilln
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I've just almost slipped into insanity this morning. I woke up, walked out of my bedroom, and started weeping like a child. My mind was slipping
away, my body felt detached and Behind those to entities I saw the black abyss of darkness and dispair.
Luckily my conscious mind (or subconscious) mind was able to keep me EASILY tied to the Pier, so all I had to do was deal with the dangling back and
forth off the pier line.
My wife came over to hold me and ask me if I was going to be o.k. and I told her that the moment is coming where we all will have to be stronger than
we ever had.
She's known about this for a while as I tried to carefully release the information to her without destroying our lives and our marriage. It has
worked.
Now I know it will come down to the survival of me and my loved ones against any form of tyrannic forces.
I'm slowly loosing my mind.....
how could that be? Me? How could I be the one turning insane?????
I hope to GOD we are just becoming paranoid and this will all pass like it has for ages...
Or could we be the final children of God.........and Judgment day is actually here.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:37 PM by open_eyeballs
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reply to post by Republican08
I live in las vegas and the clubs are packed. the pool parties...packed....the casinos not as packed as usual, but still tons and tons of people.
Smiles all the time.
in fact i met a dude that works at morgan stanley who loves his job recently...asked him how things were..said they were awesome....
i expect their to be more of a downturn, but people really need to lay off al the doom and gloom
people loosing fortunes has a tendency to drag one down. listening the propoganda from the msm also can have that affect.
other than coming on here (ats) and seeing the usual doomers that permeate this site, i have not seen any changes in the way the world seems to be....
revolving
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:44 PM by juzchilln
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Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Republican08
I live in las vegas and the clubs are packed. the pool parties...packed....the casinos not as packed as usual, but still tons and tons of people.
Smiles all the time.
in fact i met a dude that works at morgan stanley who loves his job recently...asked him how things were..said they were awesome....
i expect their to be more of a downturn, but people really need to lay off al the doom and gloom
people loosing fortunes has a tendency to drag one down. listening the propoganda from the msm also can have that affect.
other than coming on here (ats) and seeing the usual doomers that permeate this site, i have not seen any changes in the way the world seems to be....
revolving
It's really a mistake to judge urgency of your environment by observing the cows around you. Especially the dellusional creeps in Las Vegas who could
care less if the whole world blew up during their drunken and drugged dream state.
But if that makes you sleep at night, I'm jealous of you.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:10 PM by NathanNewZealand
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reply to post by open_eyeballs
Clubbing is lame, and the people who find enjoyment or importance in that style of life are the lamest people that exist.
They wouldn't understand the workings of governments or history if you sat them down and explained it. They think being social is important, lame.
I can't wait to see there faces when we're all dying by the millions.
Clubbing is lame.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 04:18 PM by Angelsoftheapocalypse
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i feel it too.. and its surreal sometimes, i get nightmares and visions of war, poverty, disease, ect.. i get deeply depressed about it sometimes, and
its a feeling no matter what i tell myself, i cannot escape it.. no matter if 2012 comes and goes, or destroys us all, i can still feel something
horrible is coming to mankind as we know.. one good thing about this though, is afterward, we might actually have a time of "peace" to where mankind
gets over their petty differences and gets along, no matter how different they may be.
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