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Warnings From The Benevolents!

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posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:02 AM
reply to post by benedict9

The Kolbrin bible site is selling books. The Kolbrin bible appears to be a new book although it claims that it goes back 3600 years. There is no evidence for this book back beyond a few years. It appears to be a complete work of fiction.

There is good reason to believe that there is no new planet sized or larger object in the solar system. There are astronomers that look for these objects and they have no found anything. Does that mean that there is no companion to the sun? No, of course not. All it means is that if it is out there, then it must be very far away and never enters the orbits of the known planets.

The following is an article about a possible companion to our sun. It's an object that is 1/3 of a light year away. It stays that far out. never comes closer.
Persistent Evidence of a Jovian Mass Solar Companion in the Oort Cloud
Yes, things might be out there. People are looking, but if they are out there, then they are very far away.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:35 AM
You have to really check when you look at the link selling books and trying to tell you that the demonstrably impossible Wormwood approach is coming straight at the South pole.

If you turn off your thinking caps and read this line you might get this ooh, aah wonder that somewhere, some how in a mystical zone of the south there is a place where this could be happening.

that Planet X is currently approaching the core of our system from deep within the Southern skies of our solar system

Alright enough of that nonsense. Turn on the thinking caps.

  1. Mantle stretching - A rather silly claim. Does the moon do this to us? It is very close. Yes. The effect is very small, but most noticeable as tides. The sun also affects us. About 1/2 of what the moon does. Does Jupiter affect tides? Not that can be measured. Does Saturn affect tides? Not that can be measured. So is the effect of a planet way beyond the orbit of Neptune affecting us. Definitely not.
  2. Earthquakes and tidal effects - There are a few localized areas where tidal forces from the moon are associated with earthquakes. The connection is not that good. In general, only small tremors appear to be associated with tidal effects, not large quakes.
  3. Crustal effects from the moon - It's been known long before 2009 that the moon affects the crust as well as the water. The effects are very small, but measureable.
  4. Buoy 53401 - The buoy reports localized information. It it were reporting over a long period of time, then it is not reporting tidal effects. Furthermore, the claim is "the seabed rising about 300 feet". These buoys do not measure changes in sea floor.
  5. Buoy 55012 - Again another localized event in an area known for its large earthquakes that have been happening for a long, long time.
  6. Seabed rise - "The data showed a seabed rise of 13 feet per day and was officially reported in the news on May 16, 2010." Take a look at the links below to see that this is a false claim. This is not what the buoys measure. See for yourself that this is a hoax site.

Buoy 53401
Buoy 55012
Deep Ocean Tsunami Detection Buoys

The simplest thing to realize about the "coming towards the South Pole claim is that whatever the planet can see of Earth is also what parts of Earth can see the planet. Imagine approaching the South Pole of the Earth. Can you see side of the Earth facing you? Obviously yes. So that entire half of the Earth can see the approaching planet.

Since we see nothing in that direction and since gravity studies have made it clear that nothing planet sized can be with 70AU of the sun, then there is no nearby planet. Whole sky surveys have pushed the limits of a planet sized object out 320AU, that's 8 times the distance to Pluto.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 09:47 AM
reply to post by stereologist

gravity studies have made it clear that nothing planet sized can be with 70AU of the sun,

These studies are inconclusive, at best.

There are things out there that the mathematics have not been able to explain. I know the theories make some claims but the math doesn't work. There is also much debate about gravity laws, it seems.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 10:12 AM
reply to post by stereologist

It seems the biblical stories are from about 300,000 years of Earth human history. Rome took bits and pieces, put them all together in one place, put their spin on the story and used this record to control humanity.

Just look at the old testiment, I have. That book makes no sense when it comes to one christian God. The God of the old testiment caused men to kill men, much like we have today. I could not help believing that the God of the old testiment and Jesus were not the same God.

I can only come to the conclusions I did by reading, studying and living the life of a christian. Put on those shoes and you too might understand the Old Testiment God was not the same God as Jesus. One seemed to be centered on Service to Self and the other seemed to be centered on Service to Others.

The problem today is most proffesed christians are service to self oriented. They go to church because they want something. They do all that as an outward show, but when they are behind closed doors, the true nature comes out. Just look to the Bishops of Rome and how their behind door actions are now public. It is not only restricted to them, but 99% of all humans, me included.

It is however possible to wake up from this comatose state, even though the deck is heavily stacked against humanity.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 10:25 AM
reply to post by win 52

These studies are inconclusive, at best.

That's absolutely false. The studies are amazingly accurate and are used all of the time to make precise predictions about occultations of stars by small objects int he solar system such as the recent occultation of a star by an asteroid. The exact places on Earth that could view the occultation were posted in advance of the event and people there viewed the event as predicted.

There are things out there that the mathematics have not been able to explain. I know the theories make some claims but the math doesn't work. There is also much debate about gravity laws, it seems.

Again, another resounding falsehood. If you disagree please provide supporting evidence.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 10:28 AM
HOly 200 pages, This must be the largest thread on ATS

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 10:29 AM
reply to post by win 52

It seems the biblical stories are from about 300,000 years of Earth human history.

I certainly agree that the god of the OT differs in actions from the god the NT. That seems clear to me. What I don't understand is where this 300K figure comes from. Human history is only a few thousand years old. Writing developed in Sumer about 6000 years ago. There may have been some older materials not strictly writing that are 9000 years old.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 10:35 AM
I think what we are all missing here is one little piece of a puzzle. If writing was invented 6000 years ago then what are we missing. What happen 4000BC to 0? In a short 300 or so years we've been to the moon, cell phones are pretty much mandatory, everyone needs a car and everything is so technological. We just need that one piece.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 04:21 PM
reply to post by stereologist

The 6,000 year creation cycle of the Bible is not even consistent with that compilation. For a person who studies in depth, trying to understand, this becomes very plain and is another inconsistency in the book.

The monks in Tibet have writings going back much further, not to mention China and India, than 6,000 years.

Ask yourself, where did the Jews come from in the first place?

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 05:42 PM
reply to post by ET_MAN

Just back on your thread to ask about global warming.
In your 3rd post on this enitire topic you mention it.
Now with recent events (Oil..), I suppose you can certainly tie it in.

But.. what are your expectations on tackling the subject?

As you said, youd add more on each event as it happens.

Thanks for your time.

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 07:40 PM
reply to post by ET_MAN

3/6/2010: "Someone-1's coming to town after the energy/shift/cycle - where perception of TIME will change within the twinkling of an eye for everyone-1 ready/able to receive it."


Can you tell us "who" this "someone-1" is going to be?

And, are you talking about what Terrence McKenna calls "time wave zero"?

HOW will the "perception of TIME" change & WHAT/WHO will do it?

How will this feel/be perceived by "everyone-1 ready/able to receive it"?

The way I understand it, they will remain in the "physical" (not "die" or "ascend") & suddenly "find" themselves in another reality or "dimension" still here on Earth.

Or will it be on another planet?

And that the coming earth changes don't happen in this "new/other" space/time/reality/dimension where the perception of "time" will change or there IS no "time"?

Or have I musunderstood it?

This sounds like something OTHER than dying (leaving the physical & returning home to spirit/soul form) or "ascending" (returning home without "dying", which is very rare) that right?

posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 08:31 PM
reply to post by win 52

Writing originated in Sumer first. Writing did not come into being until much later in China. The earliest writing in China appears to be from 3800 years ago. That is quite a bit later than Sumerian writings.

There is a possibility that writing appeared in China 8000 years ago, but that claim is still being discussed. There is a difference of course between drawing symbols and writing. Tibetan writings are much later than Sumerian text. Remember also that it took something like a thousand years after writing began to begin to write what we would call prose. Earlier writing was more like a shopping list.

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 12:00 AM
I watched "2001: A Space Odyssey" again, about Man's evolution (this is what we are facing with the coming earth changes) but didn't understand all the meanings.

I found this well done animated video "explanation" on the web, for anyone else interested in just what Stanley Kubrick was getting at:

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 01:48 AM
Another telescopic wide field sky surveyor is now fully operational to monitor incoming space bodies. Like I say, pay attention and 'watch what they do'.

Read the article titled-- 'Pan-STARRS telescope fully operational to spot 'killer' asteroids'. The title tends to condition you to the thought doesn't it?? Maybe that's the intention.

First WISE recently launched, now this further (similar) initiative AFTER space rocks become classified. What bodies do you think they are closely monitoring/investigating? Why now of all times to establish these 'asteroid threat' apparatus of late? Ask the questions that matter and come to your own conclusions. I only write this because I already possess my truth in the knowledge of the binary passage (the force responsible for dragging these objects in).

I came across another individual documenting his 'Niburu visions'. He is far from alone and I warn you may deem it confronting as he mentions specific regions.

And another day, another big jolt, this time a 6.3 recorded hours ago in Japan. They experienced a 6.2 just 5 days ago.

Series of quakes of that magnitude are not 'typical', nor is the frequency of such high magnitude quakes in the wider region of late (including worldwide overall figures). Tectonic plate/core activity IS on the increase. That is either a truth or a deception. You must decide for yourselves. Peace.

[edit on 18-6-2010 by benedict9]

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 07:24 AM
There are many astronomical systems that can detect asteroids. Whole sky surveys can detect them. The project Pan-STARRS mentioned here is important in that it makes it impossible for any new planet to be even remotely close to the sun. It pushes back the distance to a new planet to 320AU for a smaller planet and 2000AU for a Jupiter sized planet. The ability to detect faint light sources makes this project much more effective at detecting planets than gravitation studies.

Another system to detect asteroids is LINEAR.
What about the Catalina Sky Survey.
Then there is NEAT
What about LONEOS

And there are more systems that can detect the incredibly large number of objects out in space that are small and zooming around.

All of these systems are out there doing the work of finding the hundreds of thousands of asteroids. In passing they find comets and detect possible distant objects int he Kuiper belt or even farther out.

Here on earth we have systems detecting and analyzing earthquakes. Did you know that the USGS had to put a limit on analyzing earthquakes outside the US? We now have so many detection stations around the world that not every quake can be analyzed. Analysis means figuring out the location on the earth where the quake happened. That's the spot on the surface and the distance down in the earth. Over 1.3million quakes happen each year. Most are small, but there are lots of larger ones, too. Due to the inability to computer the location of all quakes (need more computational power) only larger quakes outside the US are analyzed.

There is no unusual earthquake activity going on. There is no increase in plate tectonic or core activity. Don't get misled here. Earthquakes are events at the edges of plates. Are plates moving faster or slower or changing direction? No evidence offered for that. Is the core changing at all? The core is not associated with quakes. No evidence offered for that either.

That is either a truth or a deception. You must decide for yourselves.

Sounds like a case of deception.

PS Channel Alexyynz needs to sleep better.

[edit on 18-6-2010 by stereologist]

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 08:10 AM

Originally posted by stereologist
There is a difference of course between drawing symbols and writing.

Drawing symbols = communication

Writing = more sophisticated communication

I would whole-heartedly argue that the drawing of symbols is the early forms of communication and should be considered to be as equally important as any display of "formal text".

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 09:03 AM
reply to post by lpowell0627

So a painting is writing? A doodle is writing?

Writing is all about having a system that represents language. If I notch a piece of wood to count days, that's not writing. If I place a symbol on a rock to mark the way I traveled, that's not writing. They are a form of communication, but they are not a systematic manner of representing language. That is why the counting stones of Mesopotamia are not considered writing. That is why petroglyphs in general are not considered writing. That is why a painting is not considered writing. It may be communication, but it is not a systematic means of representing language in a visual or tactile means. A tape recording of the spoken word is not writing either. You can't see or touch the information. The placement of a symbol on something does not mean it is writing.

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 09:15 AM
reply to post by win 52

This genocide is real, and one more step is being implemented in the Codex which has gained ground with the oil spills and all other distractions.

Waking more up and awareness is essential. Having just gotten back from a family matter, and discoering just how closed minded they are, this is more important than ever. Becuase to me, anyone who deliberately stays asleep at the wheel when its obvious there is so much wrong in the world and the media is full of mind control and lies, and everything serves an unelected ruling class of corporate bloodlines, is directly repsonsible for the deaths and misfortune of millions and the starvation of billions!

Waking up is a real responsibility we all have.

We have to hold the light over this planet, over the people, with every event that could be done, including earthquakes, that seem strangely to occur in stragetic locations (such as Haitia that has been appropriated by the US and over 200,000 civilians died for their colonialism!), and I do think of HAARP, and solar flares.

The SUN is our Friend no matter what anyone thinks, its reflective of so much more than we could even imagine in this Hologram!

Nothing that occurs will be done by chance and even the evil designs of the few do not top the Divine Plan.

So....its time to hold the light, with intent and manifestation.
Manifesting, Visualizing, Raising Frequency To Co-Create A Free World


I see you've been busy for the last 5 or so pages.
Since you are pushing information or theories that don't have that much support by those who research and discount the scientists who operate out of limited boxes, controlled by the corporations and controllers, and since you don't support the evidence that others have compiled, your determination to continue is noteworthy, though I don't think praiseworthy. Some of your quotes show a lack of research, such as this:

page 195:

Deep ice core sample suggest what?
What underwater cities?
Where is there sea-water erosion in desert areas and why does that suggest a pole shift?
What areas of vegetation under ice sheets and why do ythey suggest a pole shift?

[edit on 18-6-2010 by Unity_99]

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 11:04 AM
reply to post by Unity_99

What Unity 99, more unsubstantiated claims of conspiracy? That's just a sign of someone with no evidence isn't it? You make a claim with no evidence and then denounce the evidence denying the claim as part of a conspiracy. Who'd have imagined that? LOL.

Some of your quotes show a lack of research

Instead of responding to a question with an answer there is the 'you didn't do your homework claim.' Well, I have done my homework and I know that I am challenging a false claim by asking for the basics: who, what, where, when, why. The lack of answer just reinforces the point that these claims are baseless statements of no merit.

posted on Jun, 18 2010 @ 11:24 AM
reply to post by Unity_99

The SUN is our Friend no matter what anyone thinks, its reflective of so much more than we could even imagine in this Hologram!

Hi, I was a bit concerned for your well being. Glad you are back.

This Sun thing, as in being our friend. The Sun will likely be the thing that breaks the back, on all things. It will help people come to grips with our dire situation, and even open up the power of our minds. It will help us make our choices, our own, rather than our coached responses.

Without understanding your machine/body and how it operates, you can not think of this concept now, but soon.

This event will likely happen in 2013, after the meteor shower.

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