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Warnings From The Benevolents!

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posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:02 PM
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Thank you for the link and yes, they are always here, the Family of Light and the advanced loving cosmic citizens too. But, I am curious how they wish people to make a stand other than communicating online.

Aside from writing letters, nearly every way of taking a stand would have casualities, ourselves if no one else.

Many are wracking their brains nonstop to amongst their daily activities, within the boundaries they have, (funds, health, persuasiveness) to actually do the most effective thing that doesnt cost money). If finding the right thing to do is some kind of a test there are a lot of very caring people who want the world changed with every beat of their heart that will fail that test, and I have noticed that the ones with more health, energy and reputation usually don't see clearly.

Is it a huge letter writing campaign? How do we take a stand? And how to teach others?

This is the part that bothers me the most, with all my contact, and nudgings, what is it that they want us to do, that we can actually do, that will have no casualties?

[edit on 15-5-2010 by Unity_99]




posted on May, 15 2010 @ 07:49 PM
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Likely Alien Agenda


Why are the Aliens here? What are they doing?
I believe these two questions are relative to the alien phenomenon that is going on today. I also believe that these questions although related are two distinct questions in themselves. In other words the Aliens have come here because of one reason and are remaining here for another reason. I will now elucidate my opinion on both questions.

The first question is in fact easy. It is no coincidence that the alien phenomenon has accelerated considerably after the acquisition of nuclear power by humans during World War II.

They seem to have come here to monitor this event . . . nuclear proliferation.

Now the next question is what are they doing?

They are merely trying to understand what is wrong with the human race.
Why is it so self-destructive?

These aliens are neither omniscient nor omnipotent; if they were they wouldn’t be going around and doing what they do—gathering information so they can understand us.

It may be that they have concluded that something is terribly awry with the human race inwardly . . . somewhere deeply in the soul, mind, and heart of humans that allows for the self destruction that has gone on in this world and culminated in the creation of nuclear energy as a mass weapon of destruction.

When and if they find that out [what is the root of humans’ self destructive inclination] either they may attempt to accelerate some kind of resolution to what ails humankind, or they may conclude there is no solution but the control of human beings. Now that the cat is out of the bag—the ability to not only destroy ourselves but possibly affect other parts of the universe in our self-destruction—something must be done to control the human experience.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 12:45 AM
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astral projection.
i am sorry but i do not believe that to do this you are or have a higher power then anyone else on this planet. The reason i say this is because i have been doing this for years now and have shown to friends that this is possible. I am not a higher power nore and et i am a simple person whom lives on this earth. Sometimes when i get mad at someone and say something is going to happen to them it does happen so i try not to get mad at any one (which i think is just a flouk when it happen) but a higher way of thinking maybe possible.......all i know is that the human mind is a powerful thing and it can change the way things around you happen......You said that there are 2 sides good and bad each balance its self out i do not believe this either as i believe that negativity energy creates bad things to happen which are caused from ones negative energys. when someone wakes up and are having a bad day the whole day tends to turn bad. The future can be changed just by know what will happen and how to change it. Example if i were to tell you not to go out tomorrow because you are going to be hit by a bus at 2 am you would not go out and therefore would not be hit by a bus at 2 am. Also if you know about astro projection you would also know that you remember everything you do and where you have been. you do not have a selected mind as what you are allowed to remember........You can even remember the color of paint that is on a wall to the tiles of the floor so why do you seem to think that you can only be controlled by what you are allowed to remember This makes no sense to me at all
Also the ancient ones have been giving people warnings for years and you state that we are not capable of excepting what is to come and you can only give us bits like a date of oct 2011 interesting since you state that we can believe what we want to believe then why all the secrets why not just say the signs are there and try to interpit what they mean would be better then well here is a date and bad things will start to happen until this day and then on this time something really bad will happen and even after it will continue for a while ok and then lets say in 2015 will everthing go back to normal or what
things have happen thoughout history and history repeats itself its called rectrograding (i think thats who its spelt) so do we learn from the past

another thing is this if you were to warn us then why is it that you did not send a message for us to desiver and figure out what it mean. I do not thing you are a contactee because it you were then you would give then entire message in its true form for people to figure out and give a warning of what was and what is to go and what is to be
So what exactly are you trying to do besides give a date in the year 2011 and october besides cause panic Remeber this is only my believe not everyone elses nor am i being negative just seeking truth Thank you and have a great day oh and may be you should get some more posters for your wall lol jk



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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Hi Castleofbargains,


astral projection.
i am sorry but i do not believe that to do this you are or have a higher power then anyone else on this planet. The reason i say this is because i have been doing this for years now and have shown to friends that this is possible. I am not a higher power nore and et i am a simple person whom lives on this earth.

Whether one realizes it or not, nobody leaves the body/vehicle/flesh through OBE or otherwise unless permitted.


Sometimes when i get mad at someone and say something is going to happen to them it does happen so i try not to get mad at any one (which i think is just a flouk when it happen)

Suggestions/thoughts --- hopes/wishes/desires can affect the outcome of one's life situation. There is truth to suggestions/thoughts---hopes/wishes/desires affecting one's future situation/outcome on a certain level/degree for the experiencer “Time being” while occupying the body/vehicle/vessel that can affect one's perception/outlook of their experience of the material/world/reality. (Call it what you will)


all i know is that the human mind is a powerful thing and it can change the way things around you happen......

The human mind---a part of the vehicle is not the soul but has been temporally given to the soul driver occupying the body/vehicle/vessel. The earth human brain/mind (a piece of technology) has limited capability as a vehicle with equipment computerized and designed has limited capability depending on it's make/model/design---installations/equipment.

The soul driver occupying the vehicle/body/vessel driving/experiencing can change the way it perceives the experience and world around it “mind over matter” “attitude over matter” through thoughts/projections on a certain level/degree with limits due to the flesh vehicle/body/mind having limitations being finite in understanding/comprehension and mortal.


You said that there are 2 sides good and bad each balance its self out

Please quote what I've written as words can easily be misinterpreted. Oppositions/choices one to another can be found within duality existences otherwise the temporal life/mortality/experience would not be considered a duality with freewill soul/agency being involved having choices to choose one thing from another on a certain level/degree depending on one's temporal life circumstances/situation.


i do not believe this either as i believe that negativity energy creates bad things to happen which are caused from ones negative energys.

Negativity attraction can bring negative outcome based on one's reaction to a situation or one's negative reactions/thoughts/projections. Negative reactions/thoughts attract negativity to one's perception/experience that can affect one's circumstance/situation/outcome. Negative and positive thoughts/attraction/outcome---Cause and affect---Action/Consequence--Reactions-- desires/hopes/wishes “Thoughts/Actions” are all part of earth life's temporal school/experience.


when someone wakes up and are having a bad day the whole day tends to turn bad.

An example of how one's perception can change “attitude over matter.” The day never changes merely the day for each individual based on one's current level of perception/attitude on how they see/view/experience—-hope/desire/wish---project/think. Altered states of consciousness for the temporal driver/experiencer occur on many levels/degrees based on one's current level of awareness/consciousness--- perception “mind over matter” “attitude over matter.”


The future can be changed just by know what will happen and how to change it.

One's future can be changed/colored in according to one's choices/decisions actions/reactions to it's coloring book outlining or life that it has been given. The outlining of the pictures/events are fixed in place to a certain level/degree. How one-1experiencing chooses to color in those pictures and perceives/experiences earth's temporal reality/life is based on one's freewill “soul/agency.” Choices/Actions/Reactions help color in those pictures. Positive user friendly colors are always recommended to fill in the outlining/pictures but to everyone their own freewill “soul/agency” path/choice/way. After all where there is no all but individual one-1. You did it your way, they did it their way, we all did it our way. Everyone-1 with his or her own unique pictures colored in from the outlining of the coloring book pictures.


Also if you know about astro projection you would also know that you remember everything you do and where you have been.

OBE experiences---memories can be altered/changed/withheld from the physical body/mind once entered back into the vehicle/body/vessel. This doesn't mean memories/experiences cannot be taken back to the vehicle/body/vessel only that it can work both ways depending on one's experience and reason/purpose for having such an experience. Everything occurring in one's earth life/experience has a reason/purpose whether one-1 realizes/sees it or not. There are no accidents or coincidences from the infinite/eternal perspective down to the very last hair on one-1's head/heart beat.


you can only give us bits like a date of oct 2011

10.11.11. means today, today and today from the infinite/eternal perspective based on the absence of “Time.”


So what exactly are you trying to do.

I'm answering people's questions and sharing information.


Thank you and have a great day

You're welcome

Best Wishes!


[edit on 16-5-2010 by ET_MAN]



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 08:01 AM
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Hi Genius22,


Hello ET_Man

Although I believe a lot of predictions and prophecies are completely bogus, I tend to let them in with an open mind,

If one can begin where there is no begin to comprehend that “Time” is operating within one's human vehicle/body/mind based on one's perception of their reality/life/experience--- state of consciousness/awareness then one is beginning to wrap/bend their mind around something where there is no beginning or time.

It's a difficult thing to comprehend/understand for the time being experiencing the time boat where there is no time or boat.


Why the switching of dates?

Changing/switching dates? Perhaps you've mixed this thread up with another.
“Times” and “Dates” (technically) do not exist from the Infinite/Eternal perspective where there is no time or dates. If one could only bend/wrap their mind around it. Today is October 28th 2011 and October 11th, 2011 or December 21st 2012, January 10th, 2020, December 25th 1117. Today is today, today and forever from the infinite/eternal perspective.


Your thoughts on a post I read recently:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

When one decides to turn/change the page of a coloring book opening up a new scene it will be changed not based on “Time” but based on reason/purpose/design. A plant is never forced to grow faster than it can grow and some plants seem to grow quicker/faster (based on one's perception) than others depending on location soil/climate/water/sun. Everything experienced on Earth life has a reason/purpose for occurring/happening that includes earth changes/evolution/natural cycles.

“Time” technically does not exist from the infinite/eternal perspective but such a suggestion is difficult to bend/wrap one's mind around for the finite body/mind “Time being” while occupying the vehicle/body/flesh so let's pretend that there is only One-1 year with 12 months containing seasons/cycles that repeat themselves over and over again. The Earth traveling around the Sun that those on Earth experiencing calculate based on a 365 day sun rise/night fall cycle. Nothing truly aging merely altering/changing or being colored in page by page based on the ongoing continuous One-1 year cycle where there is no year but One-1.

Let's pretend that the Sun has always existed and so has Earth along with all other celestial objects/planets/stars/galaxies and so on in existence and (technically) there was no beginning or ending to such creations but they have always existed in one so called “Time” or another where there is (technically) no time. Let's pretend that everything has always existed in one “Time” or another. Time being a finite/temporal perception/idea and let's pretend that it's all on film recorded by the producers that can replay/re-run or tune into at will those specific channels/stations/times (Call them what you will.)

The finite/temporal experiencer or “Time Being” based on the finite human mind/eye ticking away forwards or seemingly running forwards as a movie/film moves/changes clip by clip one to the next as it plays/projects. Page by page of outlining as the temporal/finite experiencer/artist colors in the pages.

“Time” is like a movie that can be rewound, fast forwarded, paused even put away on the shelf and replaced to yet be pulled out again and re-played/experienced/viewed. “Time” is like a radio station/signal/channel that has and will always exist and can be tuned back into viewed/listened to/received as the same sound/broadcast that it has infinitely always broadcasted.

Let's pretend that Earth life is but a movie/film like a station/channel that can be tuned into that has always existed and will always exist if one can only bend/wrap their mind around it. Time being the mind bending incomprehensible thing to the finite body/mind/understanding that technically does not exist from the infinite/eternal perspective.




Best Wishes!
Best Dreams!



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 08:28 AM
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Hi Martianboy,


You seem quite willing to build the fear without offering a solution.

Fear is a word to man to better give explanation/definition to something it experiences.

How does one truly understand/interpret such a word?

Fear based on being afraid of something that it perhaps does not understand, enjoy or approve of?

Fear of the unknown.

Fear of pain.

Fear of something that it perhaps does not like, enjoy or understand.

If one is affected by something written by another who or what allows that person to become affected?

Is it because one does not like what is being written/suggested by another or perhaps one does not understand what is being written/suggested by another?

Who or what strikes fear into another person and why?

Who or what allows that person to become afraid and why?


Fear works as good as a cattle prod for moving a herd.

Why do cattle fear a cattle prod?

Is it the pain feared?

Is it not understanding what a cattle prod is?

Is it the conditioning/training of cattle that simply follow the herd out of habit?

Is it the farmer and the equipment that cattle are afraid of?

Is it the fear of death and the unknown?


The question is where are you trying to herd people?

How have you interpreted the thread?

What makes a person afraid and does that fear come from someone's written words or from within a person?

Does one have control over their own fears or does the media, government, wars and events occurring in the world hold one's fears and control one's fears depending on what is written, said, occurring and done?


There is a God waiting whether I live or die in this flesh earth diving suit, I've been dead, its not that big a deal,

What is your understanding/definition of God?

You've experienced death and as you put it “it's not a big deal” yet you are alive now or is it the opposite? Are you dead now and alive upon death? Is life really death and death life or is there such a thing as life and death (technically)? How does one define life and death and what is their interpretation/understanding/definition of such a thing? Words defined by man to better understand something.

Are you capable of fear after experiencing what you consider/perceive to be death?


There is no pizza in the afterlife.

Would you like a pizza in the after life?


Namaste.

Namaste,

Best Wishes!



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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Hi Dryadlover,


Love and Peace.

Regardless of belief, if one desires the above Love and Peace and does not mix those words up with Hate and War but understands/interprets them correctly for what they are Evil not being Good and Good not being Evil that is what counts.

Love and Peace to you always.
Best Wishes!



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 08:52 AM
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Again, IMO, I repeat, the aliens or ET's are not omniscient.

They are most likely wondering why humans are the way they are.

They probably don’t have a clue on how to solve the human problem of the tendency towards self-destruction.

Are these aliens knowledgeable of the primordial father archetype [lord] in humans hu knows what ails us?

I doubt it, for likely they are as baffled as we are about the human condition.

They have to learn themselves, of course they likely have an edge, but that doesn’t mean they will know the truth about us better than we can.


Unity is the key, there is somthing we all have in common



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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Hi Win52,


can you think of an other way for humanity to get around this problem we are faced with, other than just letting things be planned for us?

Follow your heart. There are no accidents or coincidences from the infinite/eternal perspective.

As you've labeled/called it "the programming" is part of the vehicle/wiring--- body/mind. The soul driver of the vehicle/body is not the vehicle/body but merely the temporal driver experiencing the vehicle/body. The make/model/design of the vehicle/body consists of as you put it "programming" limitations and functions built into the vehicle/body that one currently operates/occupies/drives. Hunger, Pain, Tiredness, Sadness, Sickness and so on Emotions/Feelings part of the wiring/attachments to the body/vehicle/mind--- setup/designed with functions---"programming" for the temporal "Time being"---Experiencer.


Where is free will here,

How does one react to their life situations?

How does one handle/operate the vehicle/body if it's damaged/crippled or goes through hardship/trials/tribulations?

The soul/driver of the vehicle does have freewill to act/choose/decide how to deal with hardships/trials/tribulations---but with limitations over the functions of the body/vehicle.

When something challenging/difficult takes place in one's life how does one deal with the situation?

How does one handle difficult/challenging situations---what is their reaction?


especially when we don't even understand what we have as choices?

When someone sits down in a restaurant and picks up a menu does that person have a choice to order whatever they want on the menu based on their current circumstances capability/budget?

Does that person have a choice to order a meal and leave without paying?

How many choices/possibilities exist and is a person allowed to make those choices/decisions all on their own?

Is a person being forced into ordering a certain item on the menu or forced into making a certain choice/decision?

Best Wishes!



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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Hi Sphinx551,


ET_MAN,
1. Is there such thing as a "timeline shift"?
Examples here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Does everybody read at the same pace?

Who colors in the pictures to one's coloring book of life and can pages get turned whether a person finishes coloring their picture or not?

Who or what changes things and turns the pages?

Do time-lines truly exist?

Does time exist?

Once a coloring book has been selected/purchased does the outlining of the pictures/images remain the same within the coloring book?


2. What is going on in this thread?:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I have these strange incidents from time to time:

Time is something to focus on where there is no time but focus.


I read a phrase or sentence in some book, article, etc... and then some time later when I look at the same phrase or sentence again, it is different. Either different in some words or is re-phrased. Happened many times to me.

It's happened many times where there is no time or many from the infinite perspective.

Sphinx551's experiences will differ from others.

Coloring book pages are being turned, alterations/shifts/changes occur.

Nothing happening by accident, everything with reason/purpose and by infinite design.


Is this faulty memory recollection or "jumping between parallel universes"? Or something else?

Something else.


3. Are parallel universes or timelines "collapsing" until 2012?

Technically there's no such thing as parallel universes or time lines according to what most understand/define/perceive parallel universes/time lines to be. There's no such thing as time, dates or years from the infinite/eternal perspective. There's no such thing as infinite parallel versions of one's self but infinite one-1 you existing in the here and now forever on infinite levels of the infinite one-1 you.

What is 2012 when today is every day or infinite one-1 day from the infinite one-1 eternal perspective forever.

How could time ever be completely understood/comprehended while occupying the vehicle/body/flesh/mind.


Thank you.

You're welcome!

Best Wishes!



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 10:12 AM
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Hi Mclinking,


Hold fast to that which is GOOD".

Nicely put


Best Wishes!

Will get back to the remaining questions/comments within a 24hr period where there is no 24, period or hour but now, now and now forever from the infinite/eternal perspective with zero time-000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 10:21 AM
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ET_MAN

I was also wondering why you mentioned the Appalachians as a good place to go. I'm already here, but I was just wondering if there is anything special about this place.

Peace



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 11:09 AM
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The music and clogging make it special.



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by DClairvoyant
 


Thank you for the link and yes, they are always here, the Family of Light and the advanced loving cosmic citizens too. But, I am curious how they wish people to make a stand other than communicating online.

Aside from writing letters, nearly every way of taking a stand would have casualities, ourselves if no one else.

Many are wracking their brains nonstop to amongst their daily activities, within the boundaries they have, (funds, health, persuasiveness) to actually do the most effective thing that doesnt cost money). If finding the right thing to do is some kind of a test there are a lot of very caring people who want the world changed with every beat of their heart that will fail that test, and I have noticed that the ones with more health, energy and reputation usually don't see clearly.

Is it a huge letter writing campaign? How do we take a stand? And how to teach others?

This is the part that bothers me the most, with all my contact, and nudgings, what is it that they want us to do, that we can actually do, that will have no casualties?

[edit on 15-5-2010 by Unity_99]


I wondered the exact same thing over 24 hours ago yet I have realised that everything is falling in line for me and I know other's also and we have to remember that we create our own realities and that we have nothing to fear because as long as we stay connected with the LIGHT nothing can harm us.

As for making a stand sending information only those in political positions who will listen and want change. Basically instead of just stopping to chat with a friend and family member of The Coming Changes be willing to take that extra step and talk to people you don't really know and people at the bus-stop at the check-out in a super-market, chat with employee's say things you know from within and only say so much that will help that person in the sheep/masses become curious and logic will tell them go look it up on the internet etc and their feelings from within will give them that extra nudge if their willing to listen and learn.

I do believe that we all as Humanity have simple/lesson's to learn however a lot of us make it harder than it actually is and I know of this throughout all my life I always used to take the hardest route because I felt that I had to prove who I was and didn't quite understand it I was really trying to find out who I was?

Now I have awakened over the years and I have realised/become aware of who I am I feel great and light as feather once again and do not fear The Coming Changes as She/Earth has asked for those who are willing to join Her in the ascension process, those who are Spiritually Aware and those who ARE willng to listen and learn and change.

I feel very very positive about this from within and I feel a welcoming to Her. I understand my dreams/visions now as they were never about disaster's that's the reaons/purposes they would play over and over and over until eventually I was willing enough to show that I am capable of learning and those dreams and visions have showed me the TRUTH. We have nothing to fear what will become of us and that we should know that we are not alone and are loved very much


Love&Light,
D.



[edit on 16-5-2010 by DClairvoyant]



posted on May, 16 2010 @ 11:21 PM
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Well I am suddenly being pushed again to add artwork to a way of sending a message, and had a direct message again, that totally stunned me as it always does, and even that they chose to communicate a full explanation to what I was examining, my exact thoughts, and something that had worried me for 2 years, in a way I totally understood. I saw why there are what we call neutrals here, who work loosely in a kind of watchdog mode along side and even with the more negative Vrill. I was told and it made me remember that I knew this protocol, it was in my soul memories. I was shown the UN, and a world with many varied nations, some with more advanced human rights on paper and a semblance of democracy, others, sadly lacking in freedoms and where abuses occur as a way of life.

I was shown that a diplomat from a more progressive country, working closely, giving technological aid and support in a more negative country, would be neutral, and witness things they could not do anything about without violating International law and some semblance of peace, and a slower progress, or, the risk would be out and out tensions and wars until the whole world was destroyed. That there was also a free element involved as well. Where there are many humans here who truly endorse the policies and heartlessness and lack of universal programs and endorse inequality because they want to feel they're better than others, and that God is approving them, its ego. That not everyone is as mind controlled as I think they are. That many would not be ready for a eutopian world.

Then I had to see this on a galactic/intergalactic level, where keeping the peace and non-interference was the desired goal, where there was a huge variety in planets/culutures, and yet, there presence is here, because we do matter very much (ie. think timelines, and that we can only exist in one segment of the film, but that all the star systems/DVDs are spinning at their own rates/orbits, time perceptions, so that advanced races are from the future. Are they not us in the future? Is not our progression here important to them?

I was shown that they are here, and my experiences that I had been contemplating and feeling panic whenever I though of the blanks in my memories, concerning a certain base in childhood and certain memories, that Vrill like, militia/greys/nordics, wherein I should have been put onto M'Kultra like programs, but we instead had some rescuing done, and I never knew why. Nor could understand with the amount of horrible testimonies how it was that my memories switched to being checked on by nordics and more positive greys with them, and wondering if it was a mask for something terrible.

I was shown that the base there is related to the Watchdog group who maintain non-interference and neutrality as a job description, but who are positive in nature, very much so, and that they have the technological advantage and stay at will, to ensure that in some capacity, choice is always there right up to the end, that we cannot have our free will and choice taken from us, and that, when one side is lopsided, technologies are given. And I was asked to put it all into perpective. That the abuses I was worried about and panicked over was real, yet we were protected.

I was also shown something to do with artwork and cosmic greetings of peace and love, and my art is rusty. I am an artist who gave up this for 5 boys, and health problems, so.....does this not mean, a future?

Also, I keep being directed to hold joy, hold prosperity, eden, etuopia, equality, over the world, and Africa, also over the US by the way, and just to see positive shifts taking place, rapid shifts, miracles not disasters. And even if a disaster occurs, to see rapid shifts, no suffering, channels changing.

To see waking up and awareness and shifts. I have to hold a positive light, not a fear message, can't do that. Even if it gets fearful, need to hold it positive and pump eden into everyones path/channel.

Also, why would this emphasis be on a longer term project? I'd been shelfing longer termed goals, which I want to do, because of the messages of impending earth changes.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 08:23 AM
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Hi Unity_99,
DClairvoyant and everyone,

I had something come up that will keep me away from ATS for a while but I plan on getting back to the remaining posts as soon as I can.

I realize that I've missed many questions/comments but I will get back to everyone's posts upon my return.

Blessings & Love!



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 12:19 PM
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You seem to be suggesting my conversation is not intelligent.

This type of attack is definitely a part of the programing we get as Earth Humans. It strokes your "self importance" program and slings mud at anything I may say.

I see it is hardly possible to have an intelligent conversation with you, with all the mud and BS flying around.



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by mclinking



We have been stuck cycling here every since, with no opportunity to move on. If we can't figure out how to get out, we will be stuck here for another cycle.


This is 'The Terror of the Situation' - Gurdjieff. 'As long as man thinks he's free, he cannot escape'. It's the Wheel of Death - Buddha. Endless attachment, endless reincarnation.

mclinking


This person understands our situation, quite clearly.

It is necessary to understand you are a captive. Without that understanding, nothing else I say will make any sense to a person who thinks he/she is free.

That is what got me started on my current learning curve. The big problem is that I had no idea how trapped we are. Now that I know, and people still keep making the same stupid remarks, those remarks seem to hold no weight and the person is viewed as being lost in the experience of physicality and wishful thinking.

Thanks mclinking!

[edit on 17-5-2010 by win 52]



posted on May, 17 2010 @ 03:48 PM
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Yes, many of us do, and even how Saturn and the negatives are involved, for it is somehow controlling earth's matrix, which is not even a planet that we see, but more akin to venus or dreary, in the real channel. And it is blocking this one from progressing and blocking us from progressing and is connected to the event as the negatives wish to reset tus, with all things coded to Saturn including wedding rings, oaths, religions and Church ceremonies as oaths.

However, once again, to emphasize, what passing this test means is: Love, and giving to others, and forgiving. If aware of codes, DENOUNCE them! State that we only run with the highest intentions of our heart.

And from my experience that happened the evening just a couple days ago when I had that experience in the morning, two evenings ago. At the door, I opened it and there was a grey. In the flesh. A pink grey, not wearing the grey skintight uniform they wear due to our magnetic/gravity forces. Zetans are pinkies! But....what other greys are?
He was at my ribcage height, I am 5 5. He had a head the size of my 8 year old son and slightly narrow like his at the top, and he leapt quickly to the side and vanished.

He must have known I was coming. He must have allowed me to see him. And based on the dream I had, a masked dream that night, concerning the mission I was given for awareness that morning that I thought would take time. This seemed to allude to a time extension. So, he was working with them. Probably a clone from underground. By the way, to simply reset the planet and have most turn into this kind of soup you talk about, they would not extend time to wake people up with messages of giving to others, to give to ourselves, for giving to the poor is a real gift to the one giving. And awareness, artwork, other things. Why spread a message and extend the time?

My two oldest boys were told aside from the others, as one is an experiencer and has had missing time and memories, and the oldest is a skeptic and has only been back home for a year. He looked around outside.

That night at 1 11 am, my second oldest said the lights all dimmed and flickered and he felt a shift had taken place. He thought time was spliced.

I woke up at 1 19 roughly to share my dream with him. The short form is this:

3 of my family was abducted, my father, brother from another town and my second oldest. M oldest skeptic son and I were sky watching. And we saw crafts. He tried to say they, and the blue light, that was darting off at sharp angles were planes until he saw a surfboard type et script with an et onboard. I shouted, "In the name of Mother/Father God return my family!"

Then a ufo landed and my oldest ran onboard very excited. I approached and there were many blond nordic counselors that all looked the same or similar. One said, "you might as well come on board, and fill out the questionaire, it will only take 15 minutes!"

I did and sat down at a large round table, my son was opposite me. The women were spaced all around. At that moment my 3 family members fell from the sky wearing coveralls and covered in soot and grit/sand, stuff, and it was inside them too. They were taking off the overalls and shaking them inside out and dusting off.

I looked at the first question, and it asked the date for when I first remembered or was aware of a conscious ufo experience/event"

I looked across the table at my son and said, "well this would be your first then". He asked what the date was.

I looked at the woman to my left and she shrugged as if to say they dont do time.

Then, she said, "I will tell you this however, this day has so far taken 9 days to complete"

And I woke up, with the words spoken to write this down.

This is a time extension.

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posted on May, 17 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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Again, IMO, I repeat, the aliens or ET's are not omniscient.

They are most likely wondering why humans are the way they are.

They probably don’t have a clue on how to solve the human problem of the tendency towards self-destruction.


The ones close to our channel and including those who we perceive as negatives, actually do understand us very well, can read our thought and map us out thoroughly including our history and this planets history and keep perfect "computerized" records, and do dna work as well.

Those ETs that are positives from higher dimensions/channels/space-time , well they are able to not only read all of our thoughts, intentions, know us inside out, dna and in every way, but also our future thoughts and actions, to varying degrees depending on whether they are here or from the Beyond. The ones here love us for we are family and also are nudging us to advance us, to get us to wake up and do our missions, for a very special reason.

They are our future selves and/or family grouping! Our progression progresses them. This also explains the acturian and ple'o'sha'n channeled messages that were authentic where they said they have come back to rectify an error, that they must do this to progress.

For many races, are very lukewarm about humans due to so many willing to follow orders to go to war and bomb their brothers and sisters, and children, and also, go about their accumulation of goods while over half the world is starving to death and so many are homeless, and poor neighborhoods so unpleasant and unsafe, with substandard living and conditions that are dangerous to families and single mothers and children. We're heartless, or, we shrink back not believing we can make a difference.

Its like a muscle we have to flex it a bit and tone a bit, learn to give.

They have realized that we are them, they are us, and that our progression in this very hard test, progresses them as well.

There are many different groups.

For some earth is like a prison where you gradually learn to love to get out. For some this is like a final exam.




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