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Warnings From The Benevolents!

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posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:13 PM
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yo et man this thread is pretty good///i just wanted to ask you if youve considered revelations as one of the clues to the coming catasphrpy youve been discussing...speciffically chapter 12




posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Now you are trying making a dogmatic statement that there is no time. You offer no proof that time never existed. You suggest it is a perception. You just make a dogmatic statement. This is accompanied by the dogmatic statement that there is no out. You make the false claim that counting is hindered by the existence of the infinite.

Hi Stereologist,

Thought I would add some video's that were previously posted that you might find interesting.

It's at least something to think about.

Of course time existing or not is for you to decide where there is no time but you can count on a headache just thinking about it.

It's definitely a difficult thing to bend/wrap one-1's mind around and anyone remaining in the finite body/vehicle- that includes me for the time being where there is no time will struggle to imagine that it's the mind ticking away like a projector/movie playing a movie (forward) and not the clock outside ticking at all but the mind/program/movie playing within where there is no in or out.

The mind continuously is projecting/running/constructing like a piece of technology such as a TV or Computer (metaphorically speaking) with it's continually projecting/running/constructing_________(Call it what you will.) It's the mind ticking away and not the outside clock and when people observe the outside world it's yet another part of their inner mind (projection) where there is no in or out.



Stare At the Center of the below (Video) for 1:36 with your Eyes Relaxed, Open and Still- Then Look A the Point of Light Above.


Is anyone losing their mind yet where there is no lost.

Take from it what you will but it's always thought provoking for the time being where there is no time.

Enjoy!




Best Dreams!


[edit on 21-4-2010 by ET_MAN]



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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You continue to make absolute statements for which you offer no proof. Such as no time, no in, no out, no this, no that, infinity, etc.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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You continue to make absolute statements for which you offer no proof. Such as no time, no in, no out, no this, no that, infinity, etc.

Hi Stereologist,

Haven't you noticed by now Stereologist that I've mentioned quite a few times where there is no time that my word should be taken just as that (Words/Opinion) because I of course could never prove that there is no time within time that does not really exist where there is no real but reel. (Metaphorically Speaking)
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(Non-Verifiable)


Morpheus: "I'm trying to free your mind!"


"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Einstein




Have you also forgotten that some of this thread is about sharing personal experiences with a little open discussion on topics as well? Does the gray area ring a bell?

Thank you for joining the discussion as usual Stereologist my respected foe with a fee fi fo fum.










Best Dreams!

[edit on 21-4-2010 by ET_MAN]



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
yo et man this thread is pretty good///i just wanted to ask you if youve considered revelations as one of the clues to the coming catasphrpy youve been discussing...speciffically chapter 12

Hi TheSonOfMan,

I'm adding some of the King James Bible prophecies below but you can read the entire section on Prophecy that really gets into it with many different prophecies supporting Wormwood and the Coming Earth Changes in this thread here: comingearthchanges.phpbb3now.com...



The King James Version Bible

Today, when we talk of upcoming Earth Changes, we have the luxury of an extensive scientific vocabulary at our disposal in order to communicate these ideas. We banter around terms such as pole shift, lithospheric displacement, block faulting and brown dwarf star because our modern­ day advancements in science offers us a new dictionary of rich terms to effectively communicate specific Earth Changes concepts/terminology.

Thousands of years ago however, the writers of the Holy Bible had no such linguistic arsenal at their disposal. These gifted individuals had to convey their prophetic visions saddled with the limited terminology of their day.

As we know, pole shifts are periodic in nature and have happened hundreds of times in the past. The writers of the Bible were familiar with this cyclic nature of Earth's pole shifts and eluded to these events both in the 'past' and in the 'future.'

Instead of using our modem terminology however, the writers of the Bible describe these pole shifts by the 'physical effects' that take place in their wake. In other words, the Bible describes pole shifts as times when the stars, Moon and Sun move strangely in the sky, or when vast amounts of volcanic ash block out sunlight, causing the Sun and Moon to 'go dark' or 'withdraw' their light. They also described pole shifts as times when the entire Earth trembles and becomes inclined-causing great floods to envelope the land.

In addition, the writers of the Bible also described the passage of the brown dwarf by the 'physical effects' this object has on the Earth as well. They often described the passage by phenomena such as the Sun, Moon or land turning into blood as 'red' iron oxide dust is blown from the brown dwarf's atmosphere and covers the Earth, or as an eagle with a red tail screaming across the sky.

The writers of the Bible described these future pole shifts and brown dwarf passages, taking place at a time of great destruction. They often referred to these events as "The Last Judgment" or "The Day of the Lord" or "Armageddon" or "The Chastisement."

An example of this type of 'symptomatic' description of geophysical events can be seen in the book of Joel. When the Old Testament was assembled it was written less modem-day verbiage and scientific bias. They essentially wrote about what they saw, understood and believed in.

(JoeI2:10) The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble; the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

(JoeI2:30-31) And 1 will shew wonders in the heavens and the earth, blood and fire , and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

The biblical prophet Joel is clearly using the limited terminology of his day to describe some of the physical manifestations that will take place when the brown dwarf passes Earth in the future and our planet's poles shift. The prophet Amos also describes some of the same physical effects of a future pole shift when he states:

(Amos 8:9) And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord God, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day.

In the New Testament of the Bible, the theme of an upcoming pole shift remains the same.

(Matthew 24:29) Immediately after the distress of those days (the passing brown dwarf), the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken ...

(Mark 13:24-25) But in those days, after that distress (the passage), the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give her light; the stars will come falling from the sky, the celestial powers will be shaken.

(Luke 21:9-11) Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilence in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven. There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea (due to gravitational influences). Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

The last sentence of (Luke 21:9-11) relating to "men fainting from terror," points out the importance of being forewarned and prepared for these coming events. If you're aware that these events have taken place in the past and are simply a part of Earth 'great cycles' that don't spell the end of the world, you will be much more likely to deal with the passage of the brown dwarf rationally and calmly. If you're aware that these events are once again coming, you can prepare yourself spiritually, physically and mentally to better deal with your tasks at hand­ simply surviving. In this case being forewarned is truly being forearmed! And there is no need to psychologically 'freak out' when things around you start falling apart, simply hold it together.

As revealing as these prophetic messages are, however, some of the most detailed Biblical warnings of what our future holds can be found in the last book of the Bible, known as the Book of Revelation. This apocalyptic book was written 1,900 years ago by St. John the Divine and has fueled controversy throughout the centuries due to its enigmatic language. Revelation is prob­ably the most confusing book in the New Testament and the Catholic Church doesn't teach it.

Armed with the understanding by reading previous chapters of this book-the encrypted mes­sages of Revelation should be easier for you to decipher-so let's begin by taking some notes.

One of the most revealing descriptions of future events contained within the Book of Revelation is a vivid account of the next passage of this failed brown dwarf star-which 'it' refers to as­-WORMWOOD. This account of the brown dwarf's next passage is so detailed in fact, it describes this object's 'bloody-red' tail as it flies through the heavens and the 'red' iron oxide fallout that poisons the waters of Earth while darkening the Sun, Moon and stars.

(Revelation 8:10-13) And the third angel sounded, and there fell a star from heaven, burning as though it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers and upon the fountains of waters; and the name of the star is called Wormwood; and the third part of the waters became (poisoned by) Wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter (toxic from the iron oxide). And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was eclipsed and the third part of the moon and the third part of the stars, so that the third part of them was darkened, and the day was darkened for a third part of it, and the night likewise. And I beheld, and heard an eagle, having a tail red as it were blood, flying through the mists of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the Earth, by reason of the other sounds of the trumpets of the three angels which are yet to sound! -END -

The last sentence of this chapter which mentions an eagle flying through heaven with a red tail saying, "Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the Earth, by reason of the other sounds of the trumpets of the three angels which are yet to sound!"-is important to keep in mind. Remember the passage of the brown dwarf is not the end of the physical calamities- it's just the beginning.

The Book of Revelation also goes on to vividly describe the physical damage this object's deadly passage will cause, saying:

(Revelation 6:12-14) And I looked when he had opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great Earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; and the stars of Heaven fell to the Earth, even as a fig tree casts it green figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. And the heavens separated as a scroll when it is rolled separately; and every mountain and island shifted from its resting place.

As Wormwood's tremendous gravitational effect takes hold of Earth, enormous physical pressure is placed on our planet's crust causing a "great earthquake." Volcanic ash subsequently turns the Sun "black as sackcloth" and 'red' iron oxide dust blown off the surface of the brown dwarf by the solar wind makes the moon "become as blood."

As the solid lithosphere of our planet begins to slide, the gigantic tectonic plates comprising the Earth's continental make up commences to buckle and move. Block faulting begins to happen, and as a result, "every mountain and island shifted from its resting place."

This section of Revelation also gives us a glimpse of the 'sheer chaos' and 'societal breakdown' this next passage of Wormwood is going to cause when it says:

(Revelation 6: 15-17) And the kings of the Earth and the great men and the commanders of thousands and the rich and the mighty men and every bondman and every freeman hide themselves in caves and in clefts of the mountain, and said to the mountains and the rocks, fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb; for the great day of His wrath is come, and who shall be able to stand? - END-

Clearly the "kings of the Earth" and the "commanders of thousands" (government and military leaders) will have a hard enough time trying to save themselves and preserve the continuity of government-much less assisting the hapless populace. You (the reader) would be wise to keep this point in mind as you continue reading this book. Simply stated, if you're going to survive these upcoming global cataclysms, you're going to have to save yourself first-don't be expect­ing help from anyone outside yourself-especially the government or military who'll soon be overwhelmed/preoccupied by the severity of what's coming! More on this in later chapters.

As frightening as the Book of Revelation is, however, it also brings us an ultimate message of hope/optimism. For this final book of the Bible clearly states that after the trials of the upcoming Earth Changes subside, 'peace and prosperity' will return to our planet as 'the Good Shepard' brings a 1,000 year 'golden age' of 'spiritual enlightenment' manifesting here on planet Earth.

The 'Our Lady Of Fatima Prophesies!

One of the most famous and provocative accounts of Earth Changes prophecy comes to us from the past-a miraculous Christian melodrama called the Fatima Prophecies.

At exactly noon on Sunday, 13 May 1917 and precisely on the Feast of the Ascension, Lucia, Francisco and Jacinta, three small innocent children ranging in age from seven to ten, were busy tending their sheep together in a natural depression called Co va da Iria, near the herding village of Fatima, located about 80 miles north of Lisbon, Portugal.

On the stroke of 12:00-pm that day, a brilliant flash of light appeared out of a clear blue sky suddenly startling the three children. Then a second blinding flash drew their attention to a small tree, in front of which suddenly appeared (like in a holographic image), a beautiful lady wearing a sparkling rosary around her neck. She told the three children not to be afraid-that she had come from heaven to speak with them and to give them a warning about the future of Earth.

After asking them to return to this same spot (at precisely the same time) on the thirtieth day of each of the next six months, the Lady mysteriously rose into the sky and disappeared.

So closely following her directions the three children returned to Cova da Iria exactly one month later accompanied by several incredulous villagers. Once again at precisely noon, this time a small white light floated down from the sky hovering above the same tree. Right on time, the Lady appeared again to begin speaking to the children about events that were going to happen in their future. A short time later the Lady again departed, and as she did, all the villagers present heard a great sound (like that of a loud rocket)-as she instantly vanished high up into the sky.

News of the shining Lady's appearances rapidly spread throughout this staunchly Catholic com­munity and bulging crowds soon gathered around the children as they attended subsequent visi­tations. For her next appearance one month later (and subsequent visitations thereafter), the mysterious Lady of Fatima conveyed a series of 'three' specific prophecies to the small children regarding future events here on Earth.

Upon receiving these three prophesies, the children reported what the lady had told them to the Catholic Church. The Church in turn released the following information regarding the first 'two' of these 'three' prophecies to the public. This information can be summarized as follows:

1) WW I would soon end (which it did one year later) and ...

2) There would be an even more terrible war (WW II) that would break out during the reign of Pope Pius XI and would be 'heralded' by an unknown light in the nighttime sky.

So it was no surprise when this weird illumination of the sky actually happened on 25 January 1938, when the skies over the northern hemisphere suddenly came aglow with a spectacular crimson light looking much like "a reflection of the fires of hell," as soon reported by the New York Times who had devoted nearly a full page reporting this strange celestial occurrence. And true to her word-WW II did break out in 1939 when Hitler invaded Poland-forever plunging Europe and the world (including the U.S.) into the heat of prolonged global conflict.

The Lady of Fatima added that another major war would be averted if Russia converted back to Christianity (it did in 1989) as the old Soviet Union collapsed under President Gorbachov's pere­stroika leadership and President Reagan's persistent mission-"Mr. G. -tear down that wall."

3) Strangely, the third Fatima prophecy given to the children by the heavenly Lady has, to this day, never been fully revealed to the world. And those who are familiar with this third prophecy loudly proclaim that it's simply too 'horrible' to be discussed and there­fore-should become known as the 'third secret' of Fatima-kept a hush, hush subject.

It seems that in 1917 (after this third message was delivered to the church by the three children), it was not read, but instead sealed in an envelope with specific instructions from the Lady not to open it until the year 1960. That envelope was then entrusted to the care of the Vatican.

It's reported that upon opening this sealed 'third secret' prophecy in 1960, Pope John XXIII began to tremble with fear and is said to have almost fainted from the shear horror of what the message foretold. Even though the Lady of Fatima had given specific instructions for the 'third prophecy' to be opened and then revealed to the public at that time (back in 1960), Pope John resealed the envelope vowing that its apocalyptic message would never be released to the world.

What could be so 'horrible' / 'terrifying' about this' third secret' message given at Fatima? And why would Rome's Catholic Church attempt to suppress this important Christian information?

Exactly what this 'third secret' prophecy of Fatima contains is still open to hot debate, but it's largely agreed that part of it's message deals with the future demise of the Catholic Church that 'it' says will happen during an upcoming period of great planetary cataclysm and human travail.

Unfortunately, many of the key details of this important prophecy have not yet been 'officially' released to the public and the Church in Rome continues to desperately keep the specifics of this last and final message given to the children at Fatima-a closely guarded Vatican secret.

But because the Lady of Fatima had specifically instructed that this third prophecy be released to the public in 1960, and upon opening the message the Pope adamantly refused to deliver it to the world, conflict began to brew within the Church itself over following the Lady's instructions. Apparently, not agreeing with Pope John XXIII's difficult decision to conceal this 'third secret' prophecy, close Vatican insiders decided to 'leak' at least 'part of it' to the Italian press.

So on 15 October 1963, the newspaper, Nues Europa, printed what they claimed to be (at least) part of the third Fatima prophecy that they'd received from informants inside the Vatican who believed that message needed to be released. The leaked segment of the 'third' prophecy stated:

For the Church, too, (at the end-times), the time of its greatest trial will come. Cardinals will oppose cardinals and bishops against bishops. Satan will march in their midst and there will be great changes at Rome. What is rotten will fall, never to rise again. The church will be darkened and the world will shake with terror (as the poles shift). The time will come when no king, emperor, cardinal, or bishop will await Him who will, how­ever, come, but in order to punish according to the designs of my Father.

No wonder the exact content of the Lady's third prophecy is still being suppressed, hidden by a fearful Vatican even today----despite the heavenly Lady's instructions that it 'could' and 'should,' be fully revealed to the public in 1960.

Rampant speculation continued to swirl around the exact contents of this 'third secret' through­out the 1960s and 70s. Then in 1980, Pope John Paul IT made a startling statement to a small group of Catholic parishioners who privately asked him why the 'third secret' had not yet been fully revealed by the church. The good Pope's philosophical comments where later printed in a German magazine called Stimme des Glaubens. Pope John Paul IT's confusing and vague answer to the parishioners stated the following commentary:

It should be sufficient for all Christians to know this much: a message in which it is said that the oceans will flood entire sections of the Earth; that,from one moment to the other, millions of people will perish ... there is no longer any point in really wanting to publish this secret message. Many want to know merely out of curiosity, or because of their taste for sensationalism, but they forget that 'to know' implies for them, a 'responsibility.' It is dangerous to want to satisfy one's curiosity only, if one is convinced that we can do nothing against the catastrophe that has been predicted/

This partial release of the third Fatima message is only the proverbial tip of the iceberg however. Vatican insider, Father Malachi Martin, furnished an even more revealing glimpse into the actual 'root cause' of this upcoming catastrophe contained within the third prophecy of Fatima.

Father Martin was a former Jesuit priest and a full professor at the Vatican's Pontifical Biblical Institute. He held doctorates in history, archeology, and Semitic languages. A brilliant scholar, he served in Rome (at the prestigious Vatican Observatory) from 1958 to 1964, where he was the associate of Cardinal Augustine Bea and none other than the Pontiff himself, who had opened the third prophecy of Fatima, Pope John XXIll.

Father Martin was privy to the entire third prophecy of Fatima (which was communicated to him directly by the Pope), and although he would not break his vow to keep secret the exact context of the 'third secret' prophecy, he did inadvertently release the main theme of the prophecy in a nationally syndicated radio interview with 'metaphysical space guru,' Art Bell on 5 April 1997.

Father Martin indicated that a large celestial object, possibly a comet, was approaching the Earth and its affects were going to be disastrous! The end result of this comet's passage was in fact, going to be worse than anything that could be imagined on Earth causing a global cataclysm on a scale unknown to modem-day humanity.

The object's passage would also lead to massive conflicts within the leadership of the Catholic Church and ultimately its absolute destruction. According to this interview, Father Martin mentioned this planetary cataclysm possibly taking place in the very near future-quite possibly within 10-12 years. (Note: 1997 -2009 = 12 years)

Unfortunately, Father Martin died shortly after Art's show aired under very 'mysterious' circum­stances and it's been suggested that he 'may have said a little too much' in his 1997 radio inter­view on the Art Bell show. This isn't the first time that a mysterious death has occurred over 'X.'

Shortly after Father Martin's death, a close associate of his named, Kathleen Keating, released a bombshell book entitled: Earth, The Final Warning. Keating's book indicated a celestial event, possibly a passing comet, would soon usher in a period of great planetary destruction. People needed to heed this warning preparing themselves and their loved ones for this upcoming event.

As an interesting side note, the Vatican recently built several 'state-of-the-art'solar observatories around the world. Suspiciously, all the doors of these expensive/high-tech observatories are sealed to the public. And further, the Vatican subsequently refuses to discuss the real purpose of these observatories or what their telescopes are currently searching for. Now why would the Vati­can, a religious institution, be so interested in what's going on in outer space? And why would they need several exotic observatories strategically located at key points around the planet?

Could these observatories all be busy gazing at the same incredible incoming celestial object-a brown dwarf star called 'Wormwood' as found in the New Testament's Book of Revelation?

And will the appearance of this massive and terrifying celestial visitor trigger a pole shift that will bring down the Vatican in a swift and sudden event long-predicted-but never publicly admitted to-by past Popes and the Catholic Church hierarchy currently running the Vatican?

It's important to note these Fatima prophecies weren't given to us just to invoke fear, but are a prophetic warning. Their true intention: to motivate us spiritually, mentally, physically and emo­tionally preparing ourselves, so we'll be able to face these upcoming Earth Changes, ultimately surviving them--then take part in the dawn of a new 'millennium chapter' that awaits our planet.

If we accept the reality of these heavenly visitations (whether one's Catholic or not), we must then evaluate the consequences of 'what' the Blessed Lady said to the three children and 'why' ?

Veronica Lueken!

In 1988, just as NASA and others were working overtime to conceal the discovery of the approaching brown dwarf, a gifted Catholic visionary named Veronica Lueken experienced an interesting series of visitations from the Blessed Virgin Mary in the town of Bayside, New York. Part of the Blessed Virgin's message to Veronica stated:

Look up and see what lies beyond your windows; a ball that is fast hurtling towards the earth (the brown dwarf) .. For even the scientists have failed to recognize the speed of this ball.

Could NASA, through its clandestine observations, have underestimated the speed by which this celestial object is approaching? And could this object arrive much sooner than NASA originally calculated? Since NASA still knows very little about brown dwarfs and especially how they behave in the stellar regions of space, the idea that they've miscalculated its speed and possibly other critical details of its approach seems reasonable-although strange considering?

In another visitation the Blessed Virgin goes on to tell Veronica:

I repeat again, the earthquakes will increase in volume. California shall be struck. New York shall be struck. As I told you once before, there will be earthquakes in places that have never known a quake.

It will startle them (the people of the Earth) and frighten them, but will they come to their knees? Few will, my child, because I can tell you this; they will not have the time to make amends; that is the sad part.

. According to the Blessed Lady's words in the above para­graph we can expect this mounting earthquake trend to continue-especially years 2006 - 2012.

In addition to increased earthquakes, the above paragraph gives us another example of just how fast this object is traveling and how suddenly it will visually appear in our sky. For the Blessed Virgin states that these events will happen so fast-that "they (the people of the world) will not have time to make amends." When this event transpires it's going to be fast, furious and final!

The Blessed Virgin then shows Veronica an image of this approaching 'ball of fire' and how it will effect our Sun before triggering Earth's pole shift-which will involve great earthquakes. Veronica describes one of her visions stating:

I see a huge ball and the sun; it's a ball of fire. And this is another ball of fire (the brown dwarf). And a piece is now broken off, and it's hitting into the sun. And there---Oh! Oh!

It's an explosion. Oh, I can't look. Oh! Everything seems so still and I see people now holding onto the chairs in their houses. Everything is rocking"

This would seem to be a vivid description of 'Wormwood' approaching the Earth and briefly appearing as a 'second' Sun in our sky. A piece of the brown dwarf (or a large piece of its fore ­ward debris field) crashes into the Sun, triggering an enormous solar flare. As our planet's crust begins slipping around its molten core, the entire planet shudders as frightened people cling to any thing solid in their homes. Apparently, the entire planet is literally rocking!

The Blessed Virgin continues her message referring to the approaching brown dwarf as the "Ball of Redemption." She mentions its flammable (reddish) hydrocarbon tail and the great loss of life that will ensue upon this object's fiery passage.

She also mentions that scientists and ordinary men alike will have no explanation for this object's sudden appearance. Keep in mind that NASA has kept this upcoming event so secret that when it does takes place-most scientists and especially the general public will be in for one hell of a really big surprise!
Source: REAM MORE-comingearthchanges.phpbb3now.com...


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posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 07:40 PM
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Here's More Wormwood Prophecies!



The Wormwood Science!
(An excerpt from The Millennium Prophecy)
The Physics of Destruction!
(How the Wormwood Brown Dwarf Star Destroys Things When It Gets Here)www.millenniumprophecy.com...







MORE VIDEOS: comingearthchanges.phpbb3now.com...
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yowusa.com...
www.ec2011.com...
www.poleshift2011.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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Best Wishes!



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posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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The wormwood - planet x nibiru video is really stupid. Who narrated that nonsense. It's hard to figure out if this clip is part of making fun of that stupidity or is agreeing with it.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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Surviving 2012 and planet x has to be the worst video posted yet.

The claims that Uranus was predicted based on perturbations of Saturn is incorrect. It was discovered by a number of people, but it was Herschel and others that recognized it as a planet.

There is a claim that in 1992 NASA had a press release about Planet-X. This is an utter lie. That claim was made by Sitchin in a video as retold here and in countless other places on the web. This is a LIE told by Sitchin.
From New Facts about Planet X, the Earth's Rotation and Global Warming

In a 1992 video, Zecharia Sitchin first offered a revealing citation from a 1992 NASA press release.

"Unexplained deviations in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune point to a large outer solar system body of 4 to 8 Earth masses, on a highly tilted orbit, beyond 7 billion miles from the sun", stated NASA's official release according to Sitchin.


Next the video jumps back in time to discuss a sighting in 1983 using IRAS. What did they actually detect?
From The IRAS Incident

IRAS was designed to look in the far-infrared, well past what our eyes see. At the time, no one was really sure what it would find. To everyone's surprise, several bright point sources were found that did not correspond to anything seen on optical images taken of the same areas. In the press conference, the two scientists said that these objects could be almost anything, from a tenth planet in our solar system to distant galaxies.

Guess which it turned out to be? Sure enough, much deeper images were taken, and some of the objects were found to be dense gas clouds in our own Galaxy, while others turned out to be very distant galaxies. In fact, these observations heralded the discovery of a new type of object: Ultra-luminous Infrared Galaxies (ULIRGs). These are galaxies in which there is a burst of stars being born. The cocoons of dust in which the stars are enshrouded generates copious infrared, which is what was detected by IRAS. They published these results in the prestigious Astrophysical Journal


Again the video posts a rather bold lie to dupe those that do not double check claims. It's what we would expect from underhanded fear mongering liars.

Instead of telling the truth, the video claims that NASA did not say anything. That's a lie designed to suck in those looking for a conspiracy where none exists.

So now these liars go from telling you about the newspaper account to speculating on a brown dwarf. Then it's off to the movie 2010 for some science fiction. Another pointless gesture.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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ET, would you write about the importance of "forgiveness" such as why it is important, what is in it for ourselves, why it is a needed. I've been thinking of many old friends that have dropped by the way side over the years and the thought of forgiving, making a mends.

I've read this whole post and I must say you write extremely well and have a way of getting through ideas with an enlighten approach and style. There are many people who should hear what you would say on this even if they don't buy the idea of the end of the world.

Thanks for this thread, it has been a good one.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 09:22 PM
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I don't wish to sound too objective, but you guys are a little bit all over the place in this thread.

I appreciate the effort can mind can put forth and focus into imagination, an imagination that is a product of reallity, and may indeed have it's link. On many issues and video clips provided i can relate, and not readily dismiss it as totally untrue. I can admit there is much i do not know, and much i may never know. We may co-exist at some levels as a oneness, but individuality and self harbor the essenses and forces that co-mingle to create that oneness. at least on some levels i think these things to be true.

I see a universe that just may not be as flawed as some people believe it to be. if only people loved their home a little more.

I'm curious, no disrespect intended, as i see your posts and rational thought, but do you guys know the people who are your own neighbors? Do you know the people who live on your own block?

just curious,
thanks

Be the change you want to see in the world.



posted on Apr, 21 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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ET_MAN...
With the number of people to have lived on Earth standing at 100 billion +...

www.prb.org...

..Would it be safe to assume every individual is incarnated only once into the current cycle?



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 02:39 AM
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I was just about snuggling into bed, and suddenly realized something, and of course it pertains to something Moore said, but then I happens to think he is on mission to dislose either information or a combination of info and disinfo, because the would be PTB do this all time, everything is manipulation. 9/11 truthers was most like seeded by the black ops/cia or even the FBI, someone told me they get computer jobs alot. So I look at everything as manipulation, divide and conquer, and probable info/disnfo all a the same time.

I have a thread on the coding in the English language and have gone into their codes in the institutions quite a lot.

They do hide things in "plain site" if you can even call some of this subversive, personally I think its done to test how observant people are too. Just like a thread recently about the Vatican questioning the cruelty of taking legal matters on a special day. It was worded roughly like, in an obvious nudge, nudge, to the masses, that because they couldn't make sense of the world, they turned to conspiracy sites to shine some light. When I read that to my mother she knew immediately as well.

There is coding in the names of States as well, and their plans are carreid out long term, scripted, with them knowing roughly times and dates ahead of time.

The military where told to retire to Arkansas Ozarks

I have to say its gorgeous! www.ozarkmountainregion.com...

And also, when the floods came, Noah built an ARK!




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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 07:20 AM
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Just curious Unit 99, you say, "The military where told to retire to Arkansas Ozarks" Do you have any evidence of this other than Moore? He never gave any evidence other than anecdotal statements about lunch time conversations with retired Navy personnel.

According to US Armed Forces - wikipedia
there are 51,000 officers in the Navy. Is lunch with 3 or 4 a good sampling? All I'm saying is that even if these lunches and conversations did happen, which I doubt, the comments made hardly speak for the Navy at large.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:20 AM
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The problem with the KJV, which I have read and studied, is that it was written by the Romans 2,000 years ago. It is made up of old legends and stories from ancient times as well as giving direction on how people should behave in a submissive manner. It's a set up! The world has taken the bait, the hooks have been set and people have no idea that they are in trouble.

The pulse frequencies of the microwaves used to operate wireless devices are numbing peoples minds into submission. It is likely too late for many people to come to their senses. I personally am working to get out with my soul in tact, but even for one who understands some of the issues, the road is difficult and there are few walking there.

ET, I urge you to get off the paved road!

To add: BTW, the only communication we earthlings get in the form of visitations are organised by the Lizards, so beware.

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posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 10:53 AM
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The pulse frequencies of the microwaves used to operate wireless devices are numbing peoples minds into submission. It is likely too late for many people to come to their senses.


Why do you think this is correct?



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by stereologist
The wormwood - planet x nibiru video is really stupid. Who narrated that nonsense. It's hard to figure out if this clip is part of making fun of that stupidity or is agreeing with it.

Hi Stereologist,

It's narrated by Joe Rogan from Fear Factor/UFC Announcer.

Just about all of the video's I add- I never claim them to be 100% accurate. I link video's and add things as IDEAS and THOUGHTS for people to consider and look at it.

That is all!
Take them as you will.

Best Wishes!



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by ET_MAN
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Hi Win52,


Your thinking is mixed, between the way things should have been around here and the way things are.

Please share how you think I think about the subject matter and do you know?

You seem to think things are all good and you will retain your soul unit in tact by being nice. There is no such thing. You can't earn a ticket to 4D or any place other than primordial soup. Just by what you say, it is clear you do not understand humans are enslaved right now, as I write. All of us are in the same ark on this one.




We have been taken over and we are dominated by these guys. No amount of reasoning (with a person who refuses to look at any other options) will be enough to help a person understand our situation.

How is it that you have so much time and freedom where there is no time if there is no freedom?

Are you OK or have these reptilians been taking you each night where there is no night?

I am ok, have been taken and programed many times. Thanks for the concern. Understanding more and being strong willed helps, but there is no escape available, at the moment.



I thought I was listening to a Lizard here.

Does everyone look and sound like a lizard to you and are you Ok with doing it your own way?

Most people have the mind of the predator because this is the majority of the programming our masters do. It is not my way but the way of a toltec warrior, shaman or fool, if you wish. It is what I was borne to do.



The end result of not understanding the issues will result in an end to a soul consciousness unit (you).

There is no end to one-1's eternal soul that lives on forever and has always been and nobody can take that away from you.

That is correct, as even primordial soup has a bit of soul in it. This is what makes up our present reality. You will just have to start learning from scratch again, because you did not learn the proper lessons on this pass. Not your fault for not learning, but that will not save your soul, sorry to break that bit of news to you.



This soul unit will be broken apart and the pieces will have to start in Kindergarten again.

Will the kindergarteners of earth make it to the 1st grade or back to kindergarten?

Kindergarten is grass, rocks and etc. These soul units are pretty basic at this stage. They are like new borne children. They mature to 2D which is made up of the animal kingdom and our 2D friends, cows. Lots of lessons to learn there before 3D, which is where the human race on Earth is right now. The Lizards are at 4D and interact with us like we do with cattle, pigs and chickens.

Where is a cow's free will when it comes to us manipulating them?

Where is a human's free will when it comes to Lizards manipulating us?

The only way out is to know the game and the players. By reading what you have put down here in these 160+ pages, is is plain you do not understand what you need in order to keep your soul in tact.



They have all, and I mean all, of the bases covered. If we do not have the proper, reliable information about our situation, we can't make the correct, proper decision.

The decision is very simple, understand who and what you are to better understand that regardless of what happens you will live on forever as you have always been and nobody can take that away from you where there is no take. It's the here and now that counts and how you continue to live your life in the present.

This statement demonstrates a lack of understanding that leads a person directly into the soup. This is exactly what the Lizards want humans to think. They think of us as filthy, vile creatures who deserve to be made into soup.



That is not the problem. It is when these bad guys take away my right of choice and force me to be submissive, that is the issue here.

Are you being forced now?

Have your freedoms been taken away from you yet?


That is the problem, people willingly go because they are taught to be nice and obey. People haven't been free on Earth since the take over, some 300,000 years ago.

The good part is that if people understand the issues correctly, they can exercise their free will without infringing on an other persons rights. These Lizards use people against and to control other people. This is the way things are right now.

Humans have no hope of becomming free, unless we clearly understand all of the issues we deal with daily when interacting with other people. The Lizard's plan is a good one. One that has us held in check, much like the electric fences we use on cattle.



Who has a choice about anything? Not, 98% of the people

Everyone has a freewill to act/choose/decide for themselves how to live their lives according to their life circumstances/situations. Freewill of the soul heart/mind can never be taken away.

True, if you understand what it is that you exactly want. A child wants candy all the time even though it is not good for him/her. These guys have set us up to want what is not good for us, in all the things we do and how we treat other people. They have us in a fence some have called the Matrix.



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Pappie54
ET, would you write about the importance of "forgiveness" such as why it is important, what is in it for ourselves, why it is a needed. I've been thinking of many old friends that have dropped by the way side over the years and the thought of forgiving, making a mends.

I've read this whole post and I must say you write extremely well and have a way of getting through ideas with an enlighten approach and style. There are many people who should hear what you would say on this even if they don't buy the idea of the end of the world.

Thanks for this thread, it has been a good one.


Hi Pappie54,

If one-1 does not forgive others they do not forgive themselves and they are only holding back their own spirituality growth development in doing so.

Forgiveness is very important and unconditional forgiveness means forgiving everyone even those who have done evil things to one-1's family at one-1 point in life if that is the case for someone.

Unconditional Forgiveness and Love should be in everyone's hearts all the time where there is no time.

As far as time goes nobody is expected to figure that out or comprehend it so I will step off that subject for the time being where there is no time. I put that out there for people to think about as food for thought. There is a lot more going on in their reality then they may realize and a lot more to this Earth life than meets the eye literally when it comes to viewing light and objects around them. (The material world)

The objects around a person (Material World) is of course out there (At least according to this world and for humans yes it is Very Real)- it's how one-1's interpreting those objects and the re-construction of the material world images that is re-created/constructed in the mind according to one's perception/awareness (Consciousness).

The no time deal is food for thought for those who can begin to comprehend such a thing where there is no begin. If there was no beginning or ending to the Universe then that also means there was no age to the universe thus no time applicable to age it from the infinite perspective.

Anyone who is in the good and living a good life to the best of their ability who is forgiving everyone unconditionally and has love in their hearts, hoping/wishing/desiring good things and good outcome cannot be touched by the forces of evil or overcome by them. Negative forces cannot mix/blend or overcome/over-take- positive one's.

That goes for all entities regardless of who they are period. period. period.

Best Wishes!



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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I just read this article yesterday. Quite timely!
I like this site as they seem to tell it like it is and in plain language



posted on Apr, 22 2010 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
. I appreciate the effort can mind can put forth and focus into imagination, an imagination that is a product of reallity, and may indeed have it's link. On many issues and video clips provided i can relate, and not readily dismiss it as totally untrue. I can admit there is much i do not know, and much i may never know.


Hi Esoteric Teachers,
I'm glad you enjoyed some of them.
They are Food For Thought videos and of course I'm not the producer/creator/designer of any of the above videos. I've added them as simply food for thought for people to further think about.


We may co-exist at some levels as a oneness, but individuality and self harbor the essenses and forces that co-mingle to create that oneness. at least on some levels i think these things to be true.

We do co-exist on infinite levels with one-1 another because we are all infinite and exist in the above and beyond together. If someone can get past the time factor they would realize that we are already there together existing in the above and beyond where there is no above. One-1ness in likeness and design, One-1ness in equal potential/opportunity with no greater or lesser. No more special, no ruler or king but all having perfect freedom, capability, possession etc. This is from the Infinite/Eternal perspective of things "We are the Family of Light" and "Benevolents" from the Infinite/Eternal perspective.

There are Infinite versions of one-1's self with no end, today you are one version of yourself, yesterday you were a past clip version of yourself and tomorrow you are yet another version of yourself as a small example going on to the Infinity and Beyond where you already exist.


I see a universe that just may not be as flawed as some people believe it to be. if only people loved their home a little more.

Most certainly, it's a school of duality and opposition meant for trial and error. It was never expected to be all Love & Light but it must be full of adversities, trials, tribulations and so forth in order for one-1 to go through them and advance/progress. This is all part of Earth life reality the school of eternal advancement/progression.



Be the change you want to see in the world.

I absolutely agree, it's one thing writing things and it's another to actually put those words in action.

Actions speak louder than words and it's the actions that bring change to the world or outcome/consequence to action not the thoughts. Never pass up the opportunity to help someone in need because that is part of this life's experience/school/test and it's an opportunity that came your way if it presents itself to you, so look at it as such.

Best Wishes!



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