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Warnings From The Benevolents!

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posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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Hi Blujay,


Wormwood, shmormwood. He's got so many people focusing on it coming ...


If I had a choice of ‘Belief’ I would probably choose the ‘Law of One’ it’s a great thing to believe in and there are many truths to be found - I completely fully respect everything about it. There are many religions on this planet that I respect and many truths mixed in and I always hope for the best outcome in all things. I ask you and everyone to continue hoping for the best ‘outcome’ and focus on positive things for the future, send ‘Love & Light’ to the world and ‘Universe’. Project positive intent, I absolutely agree with these things.


" look at what you think, look at what you say, look at what you do .." Your reality is a mirror image of this.


I think that is a wise statement and I would take that literally as in look at your ‘Soul’ within, look at where all the ‘thoughts’ ‘words’ and ‘actions’ are coming from. Watch your ‘thought’s, actions, deeds’ closely and clean out the ‘soul’ continually. Living everyday to the best of your ability and counting your many blessings by being aware of the world around you. Life can be ‘hell’ for some and better for others. I always keep all things in mind and ‘Wish/Hope/Pray’ for the best continually.

What’s wrong with the picture?




Human Rights? Equality - What's That?






LOVE & LIGHT!








[edit on 26-12-2009 by ET_MAN]




posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 04:28 PM
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posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 04:33 PM
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Hi Digginapony,


With all due respect to everyone in this thread, it is proven that fear has a frequency. It is in the interests of some to promote this frequency as it feeds them in more ways than one.


I absolutely agree there is 'NOTHING TO FEAR’ and this entire thread is based upon getting over and letting go of ‘FEAR’ and the inevitability of one’s ‘Death’ which is nothing to ‘Fear.’


Please live your lives to the fullest.


For those who've paid attention I've been saying this all along. Everyday should be lived in the best way possible, enjoyed, appreciated and count your many blessings.

Best Wishes!


[edit on 26-12-2009 by ET_MAN]



posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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Can you send me a message please in my inbox of what you know thanks!



posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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Hi Unity_99,


And that we are family of light,


That is exactly what we are from an eternal perspective and that goes for all ‘living things’ with ‘eternal souls.’


Even the nwo illuminati, and really need to be loved, understood and freed from our roles.


Were on the same page- Forgiveness should be at an unconditional level always but first we must understood who the real PTB are behind Earth before making assumptions. (Judgment should be avoided.) It’s not always what people think/imagine. It’s easy to blame those that people feel are in power/authority but that doesn’t necessarily mean those people are in power/authority.


I will not give this ending to the play empowerment, but will manifest something different.


That is great, I also will hope for the best but will prepare a food & Water storage as backup for the family is that so bad.


Nonetheless, much love and light to you, we seem to be all aspects of self, different vibrations of ONE, and its time to try and spread the message that we need to wake up.


Many are asleep and I’m with you - it’s time for people to ‘Wake up.’


We can lucid dream while awake, for we are probably dreaming this life, some kind of hollogram,


Close.


And change things creatively, but we need to face those parts of self playing the bad guy roles and take off their masks to see the light shining under, send love and free them.


I’m not sure what you mean exactly by playing the bad guy roles but I do agree with unconditional forgiveness, love and patience, understanding/respect for all things. I do look forward to a bright and positive future because either way it will happen through life or through death which is only really ‘Life’.

Thanks for sharing the video.
Love & Light back at you!






[edit on 26-12-2009 by ET_MAN]



posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 06:37 PM
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Were on the same page- Forgiveness should be at an unconditional level always but first we must understood who the real PTB are behind Earth before making accusations/assumptions. (Judgment should be avoided.) It’s not always what people think/imagine. It’s easy to blame those that people feel are in power/authority but that doesn’t necessarily mean those people are in power/author


Well, this is the same as the one about the white hat/dark hat. This is like saying we're all the family of light, and a dream that Jessica had where a demon was in her room and she takes off the mask and a being of light is inside. The letter that hidden hand from ats wrote her, that she reads, that talks about how the illuminati are endowed through programming for their bad guy roles, but their souls are love and light and playing these roles are very hard on them and set them back. That we are like children playing a game, pretending to be the villian, the good guy, the victim, and that we become lost in the roles and need to wake up, send light and love to all these different aspects of ourselves. Not fight each other, or the illuminati, but try to understand each other and love each other and wake up from our roles.


She shares a series of dreams and what her guides told her. In the very last dream she has, literally her last dream, she sees that there is a ripple, the dreamscape is projected onto a veil like a screen, a hollogram. She lifts the veil and enters this dark room with a light, she ends up going through the light doorway and is at the top of the stairs. She listens at the railing as adult voices are discussing her life, and they are talking about her future. She thinks, she's hit the motherlode!!!!

They sense her presence and think she needs a grounding. As she now knows about the veil and that its a hollogram, they ground her from ever dreaming again and her night time work is spent visiting us and waking us up, or assisting us, in our dream time.




Naturally for those who can collecting supplies and food is a good idea, and even moving form cities. It could be floods, meteor, it could be a martial law with Chinese soldiers all prearranged by the bloodlines. Don't know. I will send them love and light, but will not comply with nwo. We must remind everyone and them that we are all playing roles, and lost in them, that this is not who we truly are.



posted on Dec, 26 2009 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by ET_MAN
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Hi FiatLux,


I for one will not go along with this venture. As long as it keeps the fear that humanity is being fed at such a high level, it slows the spiritual growth that they so dearly need.


Spiritual growth doesn’t always come through times of ‘Peace/harmony’ or ‘Spiritual gatherings’ but through trials/hardships and even great tribulations. It's quite necessary sometimes for ‘Souls’ to experience the good/bad & ugly. All having a reason/purpose and part of Life’s test. Fear is a tool that can be used for spiritual growth of a ‘Soul’. ‘Fear’ is necessary for some ‘souls’ and a ‘Soul’ can only overcome ‘Fear’ by first experiencing it and then ‘Facing it’ and 'Overcoming It.' There is nothing to ‘Fear’ beyond ‘Fear’ once a ‘Soul’ learns to ‘Conquer’ that ‘Fear.’ There is nothing to ‘Fear’ but ‘Fear’ itself and ‘Death’ is nothing to ‘Fear' once realized/understood coming from an 'Eternal Perspective.' Life is Death and Death is Life.

Best Wishes!


Please.....if it`s one thing I don`t need, and didn`t ask for, is a lecture from you about spiritual growth. As I stated before, it`s nothing but "fear porn". Keep as many as you can coming back wanting more.

Why not teach others to look within for their answers? No, you won`t do that, will you? You just keep blogging with more and more things made to keep the fear going and growing. Are far as I can see, you don`t have one good reason for doing this. As for fear... there is enough being generated all around the world to open peoples eyes without anyone else adding to it.

As long as there is constant fear in the masses, there will be no spiritual growth en masse. THAT is why they need to be taught to look within, and not without for what they seek. And the main thing is, they don`t need fear to help bring spiritual growth about. I learned this well over fourth years ago.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 01:35 AM
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Please.....if it`s one thing I don`t need, and didn`t ask for, is a lecture from you about spiritual growth. As I stated before, it`s nothing but "fear porn". Keep as many as you can coming back wanting more.

Why not teach others to look within for their answers? No, you won`t do that, will you? You just keep blogging with more and more things made to keep the fear going and growing. Are far as I can see, you don`t have one good reason for doing this. As for fear... there is enough being generated all around the world to open peoples eyes without anyone else adding to it.

As long as there is constant fear in the masses, there will be no spiritual growth en masse. THAT is why they need to be taught to look within, and not without for what they seek. And the main thing is, they don`t need fear to help bring spiritual growth about. I learned this well over fourth years ago.



Why are you hear fiatlux,your posts smack of fear,why does it bother you so much what ET_MAN is trying to tell people,if you lived without fear then it wouldnt bother you would it.Dont start trying to tell me you are here to inform us poor souls that were being duped,If its one thing I dont need is baby sitting by trolls because thats all your doing,you preach love and light but dont live it like most people.Go back and have a good look inside and tell me that what your constantly writing isnt full of fear.I cant believe ET_MANS patience with some of you clowns,Ive been reading it for pages.IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT HE SAYS THEN GO AWAY,its that easy,see that little crosss at the top right hand side ,use it.I like to read what he has to say,and Im damb sick of all the constant baiting and abuse thats hurled his way.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by Moreonethananyone



Please.....if it`s one thing I don`t need, and didn`t ask for, is a lecture from you about spiritual growth. As I stated before, it`s nothing but "fear porn". Keep as many as you can coming back wanting more.

Why not teach others to look within for their answers? No, you won`t do that, will you? You just keep blogging with more and more things made to keep the fear going and growing. Are far as I can see, you don`t have one good reason for doing this. As for fear... there is enough being generated all around the world to open peoples eyes without anyone else adding to it.

As long as there is constant fear in the masses, there will be no spiritual growth en masse. THAT is why they need to be taught to look within, and not without for what they seek. And the main thing is, they don`t need fear to help bring spiritual growth about. I learned this well over fourth years ago.




Why are you hear fiatlux,your posts smack of fear,why does it bother you so much what ET_MAN is trying to tell people,if you lived without fear then it wouldnt bother you would it.Dont start trying to tell me you are here to inform us poor souls that were being duped,If its one thing I dont need is baby sitting by trolls because thats all your doing,you preach love and light but dont live it like most people.Go back and have a good look inside and tell me that what your constantly writing isnt full of fear.I cant believe ET_MANS patience with some of you clowns,Ive been reading it for pages.IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT HE SAYS THEN GO AWAY,its that easy,see that little crosss at the top right hand side ,use it.I like to read what he has to say,and Im damb sick of all the constant baiting and abuse thats hurled his way.




If you are going to copy and paste what I say, then at least use quotation marks.
Why am I "hear"? I am here(notice the spelling) because of all the "Fear Porn" being put before the people. It`s simple, most of it is nothing but that, things to keep people on the edge. Why, do you like reading things like that? You must, or you wouldn`t have said something. I`ll use something you said and use it in a quote, but you can take this for what I am writing here. "IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT HE SAYS THEN GO AWAY," You see, it works both ways.
I don`t fear ET_MAN or you. What I don`t like, is the tactics used for things like this. When it is nothing but speculation, and not fact, but is being sold as fact, I do have the right to say something about it. When that right is taken away from me, then I will stop.

As for "you clowns", ask ET_MAN about that. He`s the one trying to get people to buy this. I feel sorry for the people who are just starting to look for answers. Whats more abusive, selling speculation, or trying to make people aware that it is just that, speculation?




[edit on 27-12-2009 by FiatLux]



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 08:11 AM
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Hi Fiatlux,


I am here because of all the "Fear Porn" being put before the people.


That’s really nice of you Fiatlux to be looking after everyone, have you ever considered the many other ATS topics that fall under such categories. Anything that can bring/cause ‘Fear’ well there are many such subjects out there, a lot of things happening on planet Earth – Wars- are ‘Fearful’ for many caught in the path of destruction. Life on Earth is clearly not easy for many, anyone reading this now is blessed to have internet access and if you have enough to get online you are most likely eating 3square meals a day. Count your many blessings as they say.

H1N1/Swine-Flu vaccinations.
War on Terror/9-11 (inside job)
De-population of Earth.
FEMA Camps. WWIII/Anti-Christ
Book of Revelation/Prophecies
Micro-chipping/mind-control
Alien Invasion/Human mutilation
Malevolent ET’s/Reptilian/Annunaki empire/Agenda!
Secret Societies of the world agenda/human sacrifice/mass sacrifice through War.
WAR WAR WAR, death by pain/suffering,Starvation of millions,child/abuse/abortion.

Fearful topics/subjects, you have much work to do in order to save ATS members from ‘Fearful subjects’ and I personally thank you for looking after everyone. If you have done your research on past cataclysmic events and cycles of Earth starting from roughly around the time of the last so called ‘Great flood’ of biblical times to current present time you would see that there is in fact ‘Evidence’ to support some of what I’ve written in fact there is a lot of it. Moreso than many topics on the above mentioned list so please do your homework and remember most of what I’ve shared on this thread is coming from ‘Other sources’ and can be ‘Verified’ by yourself if you take the time to look into it and research it. Try visiting a few sites for starters.


It`s simple, most of it is nothing but that, things to keep people on the edge. Why, do you like reading things like that?


I’m sure you can find hundreds to even thousands of threads on ATS and say the same thing about them all. Thanks for being here for everyone Fiatlux, it’s very noble and kind of you sir.


You must, or you wouldn`t have said something. I`ll use something you said and use it in a quote, but you can take this for what I am writing here. "IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT HE SAYS THEN GO AWAY,"


He does have a point Fiatlux but at the same time I can understand your big-brotherly concern for all of us.


I don`t fear ET_MAN or you.


I would hope not. lol I would hope you can let go of all ‘Fear’ and conquer it/overcome it. It’s not an easy thing to do , I’m still afraid of certain things such as falling off high story buildings among other ‘Fears’ nobody is perfect but we are all working towards overcoming it. I don’t fear Death but there are certain particular methods/ways of dieing that I do ‘Fear.’ I need to work on those perhaps.



What I don`t like, is the tactics used for things like this. When it is nothing but speculation, and not fact, but is being sold as fact,


Would you like me to state everything that I’ve written as speculation? If it makes you feel better I will use that word. Speculation, a word used/defined by man with quite a few angles/perspectives. There is enough ‘evidence’ out there for people to view/see things all on their own so most of what I’ve shared is coming from other sources that can be researched/verified anyway.
A few links of many out there.
www.poleshift2011.com...
www.doomdaily.com...
www.millenniumprophecy.com...
yowusa.com...
www.viewzone.com...
www.darkstar1.co.uk...
www.returnofplanet-x.com...
Everyone else has the right to think/act/choose for themselves to Fiatlux. But I do thank you for your kind hearted concern and big-brotherly protection. I understand better now why perhaps you have followed along for so long now in this thread with your many replies. It makes better sense and thanks for clearing that up.


I do have the right to say something about it.


Of course you do and you have been exercising that right throughout the thread and I’m sure there are many here who are glad you have done so and I for one am appreciative/proud of you for that kind of gesture/concern that you’ve shown/demonstrated, after all you have only been looking after us and have the best intentions in mind. We appreciate your words, concerns and great ‘Love’ that you have clearly shown/demonstrated in this thread for everyone Fiatlux. Sincerely!


As for "you clowns", ask ET_MAN about that. He`s the one trying to get people to buy this.


You may recall Fiatlux that I’ve advertised quite a few times that- I’m not selling a thing and that people can walk away from this thread anytime they want. I’m only here now to answer the questions people are asking- nothing more. If people ask me question I will answer them, nobody is being force fed anything Fiatlux and I do understand now you are only looking out for the welfare of all of ‘Humanity.’ That is a noble reason/cause for being here Fiatlux it’s a very big job due to the many sites, articles, threads and products out there being sold but I sincerely thank you for the kindness of your heart that you have shown/demonstrated. I believe everyone on Earth should have the same desire/motive. ‘Service to others’ is a good thing as long as your taking care of yourself at the same time. Thanks again Fiatlux.


I feel sorry for the people who are just starting to look for answers. Whats more abusive, selling speculation, or trying to make people aware that it is just that, speculation?


I’ve asked people to remain skeptical throughout the thread but to keep an open mind and I’ve asked people to do their own research and learn/verify things for themselves.
www.poleshift2011.com...
www.doomdaily.com...
www.millenniumprophecy.com...
yowusa.com...
www.viewzone.com...
www.darkstar1.co.uk...
www.returnofplanet-x.com...

Most of the information I’ve provided is coming from other ‘sources’ because who could ever take one persons testimony for all of this alone regardless of position/stature or credentials? I’ve also suggested people follow their own hearts and find the answers within themselves and that ‘Truth’ cannot be given/transferred to any one individual but found/realized by an individual within and that realization part must happen from within. I’ve merely presented some information and asked people to consider some of the information I’ve shared that can be found on many other websites and coming from many other ancient accounts/texts/records. I’ve also asked people to please verify/research things for themselves. Is that so wrong Fiatlux. – I’m also here with the best intentions at heart: To help/assist ‘Humanity’ in the same way you are hoping to help people. If I happen to have some inside knowledge about things to come I hope to share it so that people have a way to protect, take care of their families in times of ‘Famine’ when food/water will be a necessity to survive. I hope you also understand where I’m coming from. Thank you Fiatlux.

I hope you realize Fiatlux speculation is just a word given/defined by man like the rest of them. You can use that word if you like but there is enough evidence to be found and with many inside witness/testimonies/documentation on past cataclysmic events/cycles and preparations being made/planned by world governments. I really shouldn’t have to say anymore. Please feel free to take everything I’ve written as speculation but you might want to consider investigating/researching at the same time instead of quickly dismissing it all.

Peace, Love & Light to you my friend.
I know you only mean well and have the best intention in mind
for everyone and I sincerely thank you for taking the time
to follow this thread even though you may not agree with
why I came here and shared what I did. Nevertheless we can
still have respect for each other and it doesn’t change the fact
that we are all ONE family and coming from the same source
of ‘Light’ so you are part of that ‘Family of Light’ from an eternal
perspective. At least that is the way I see it and we do love you Fiatlux.
Peace!
www.poleshift2011.com...
www.doomdaily.com...
www.millenniumprophecy.com...
yowusa.com...
www.viewzone.com...
www.darkstar1.co.uk...
www.returnofplanet-x.com...

(Something Interesting to read at least)
Mayan Elders Break Silence
The leader of the Mayan Council of Elders representing 440 Guatemalan tribes, Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez has given his approval to Drunvalo Melchizedek to tell the world what the Mayans themselves have to say about the 2012 prophecies.

According to the Mayan Council we are all now living in the window of “the end of time” which the Council says began on 24 October 2007 NOT on 21 December 2012. They verify the explosion of the Comet Holmes as the Blue Kachina.
. The Maya have a second prophecy about a red star, but are not speaking on this yet

The Blue Kachina exploded and grew into a blue fiery sphere larger than our Sun on 24 October 2007.


It was documented by scientists as the largest object ever observed in our solar system.
The Maya came from Atlantis and the Hopi Indians were originally Maya. Some 13,000 years ago, a group of Maya were sent on for a purpose but the purpose they do not say at this time. This group became the Hopi tribe.

Part 6 -
The Maya say there will be a physical pole shift sometime in this end of time period. It will end up in Russia. The May a say the shift will be about 16 degrees whereas 3D scientists are saying it will be about 17 degrees.

The magnetic field began to change about 40 years ago. The magnetic lines were changing because the magnetic field was changing. The Maya appear to be saying that this magnetic pole shift could occur at ANY MINUTE and THE PROCESS ONLY TAKES 20 HOURS. [Ron: Of course the fact that past pole shifts occurred in 20 hours doesn’t necessarily mean that this one will be over in that time since Star Fleet may seek to slow the process down to minimize physical damage on Urantia’s surface.].

When there is a magnetic pole shift there is ALWAYS NO MAGNETIC FIELD. Thus a total loss of magnetosphere will signal a magnetic pole reversal which will signal a physical pole shift 16 to 17 degrees into Russia. It will take approximately 20 hours and the world will be in total darkness for 30 hours. [Ron: Given that the Sun will presumably continue to shine it’s difficult to see how the whole Earth will be in darkness for 30 hours]

Part 7 –
It is suggested that during the process, after about two weeks the Earth’s rock crust turns liquid! The crust will move towards centre [16 degrees into Russia according to the Edgar Cayce prophecy and 17 degrees of movement according to today's 3D scientists.]

The crucial message the Maya are giving is that humanity need to understand what is happening and not go into FEAR. Survival depends on staying still and not worrying until everything comes back.
[Ron: In fact stasis will presumably overcome this problem].
However, these movements will mean that everyone and everything on earth will change location as a result of the Earth movements involved.
The key to survival is to learn to live in the vibration of the Earth, Sun and Universe.
The heart is the key. – in the heart one is one with ALL. – We need to focus on the sacred space of the heart.
I have always said there should be NO FEAR but people should be AWARE of things to come and prepare mentally, physically and most importantly ‘Spiritually’. The Earth Changes to come are based upon many ancient ‘Prophecies’ by many different civilizations including the Hopi & Maya. Evidence can be found for those who diligently seek it. ET_MAN
Inca,

Maya,

Aztec,


Courtesy of Evasius.

2012: Why the Creation Cycles do not end December 21, 2012, but October 28, 2011
By Carl Johan Calleman
Over the decades much discussion has focussed on finding the exact correlation between the Mayan Long Count and the Gregorian calendar. Most researchers in the field have now come to agree that the so-called GMT correlation, placing the beginning of the Long Count 4 Ahau 8 Cumku on the Julian day 584 283, August 11, 3114 BC, is correct. This means by consequence that it will end on December 21, 2012 and most, such as Jose Arguelles, John Jenkins and Terence McKenna, who have taken an interest in the calendar of the Maya, have endorsed this date as the end of the current cycle.

I do not dispute that the GMT correlation for the Long Count with the Gregorian calendar is the correct one. And clearly, the Long Count is an approximately (within a year or so) correct reflection of the divine process of creation. There are however strong reasons to believe that the Mayan Long Count itself does not reflect the shifting energies of the divine creation cycles that we today are interested in exactly. What in this regard is most compelling is that the exact Long Count beginning date ultimately is calibrated based on the date of solar zenith in Izapa, which occurs on August 12. (Izapa is the ancient Mayan site in southern Mexico where the Long Count was first devised.)

This solar zenith day was since long, long before the Long Count was implemented, considered as the day of the year when �time began� and considered as a holy date in the location of Izapa. There is thus every reason to believe that the solar zenith was the reason the initial day in the Long Count, 4 Ahau 8 Cumku, was set on this day, although obviously the date of solar zenith in Izapa has nothing to do with the real beginning of the corresponding divine creation cycle. (But to change this date would have been considered as heresy. We may make the comparison with the date of Christmas, which was taken from old solstice celebrations, and has not been changed, despite the fact that few, if any, believes that Jesus was born then).

The end date of the Long Count falls on December 21, 2012 is thus just a necessary logical consequence of the beginning date chosen by the Izapans and not something that the Maya had intentionally targeted. The creation cycles described by the Maya, including the tzolkin, are fundamentally of a spiritual, non-astronomical, nature. Thus, any theory that implies that the Mayan Long Count would have been designed to reflect astronomical phenomena, be it the precession of the earth or a solar zenith, is a warning signal that its originator is off the mark. It should be obvious that if the Mayan calendar is a prophetic calendar describing cosmic energy cycles of a universal nature then the particular date at which the sun was in zenith in the particular location of Izapa is totally irrelevant for us who live today and must be considered as nothing but a result of a tradition too strong to be changed.

Another equally compelling reason why December 21, 2012 cannot be the true date of completion of creation is that this day is 4 Ahau in the tzolkin count. Since the Long Count consists of exactly 7200 tzolkin rounds then the true end of creation must fall on a day that is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count so that the tzolkin rounds even out. If we want to find out what is the real date of ending of the creation cycles we must therefore look for a day around the year 2012, which is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count. The inscriptions in Palenque, written about a thousand years later than the Long Count was devised in Izapa, seem to indicate that the date of relevance is October 28, 2011, which in fact is 13 Ahau in the tzolkin count.

The issue of the exact correlation between the creation cycles and physical time may not have been as critical in the age of the Maya as it is to us, since creation is currently operating at a 400 times higher frequency. A discrepancy of a year or so may have meant less earlier than it does to us who live today. If we make a mistake of 420 days in calibrating the end date of the creation cycles we will be totally out of phase with the rapidly evolving Galactic Creation Cycle where the Yin/Yang dualities in the cosmos are switched off and on every 360 days. These energy changes are what a spiritual calendar should reflect if it is to serve humanity in its current phase of evolution.

It should be said also that those who propose December 21, 2012 as an end date, such as Terence McKenna and John Jenkins, are basing their entire interpretations of the Mayan calendar on this particular date of ending, as if this was what the entire calendar was about. I feel however that what is most important for us to know today is the processes leading up to the completion of creation and the attainment of Cosmic Consciousness. This process is driven forward by the roller-coaster-like Galactic Creation Cycle, and for those seeking to understand this process and its many manifestations an exact calibration of this cycle is imperative. This is now available in calendar form.
Corrected durations of the Thirteen Heavens baktuns of the Long Count

Baktun no����(Corrected) Duration
1...............................3115-2721 BC
2...............................2721-2326
3...............................2326-1932
4...............................1932-1538
5...............................1538-1144
6...............................1144-749
7...............................749-355
8...............................355-AD 40
9...............................AD 40-434
10.............................434-829
11.............................829-1223
12.............................1223-1617
13.............................1617-2011


Please Do Your Own Research!





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posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 08:20 AM
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So it says that these elite including alien malevolent beings will come out of their holes after 5 years or more.

Where does it say?


Since he mentions five years or more to be safe before emerging . maybe not for the alien/beings, even though if the elites from these holes are being controlled they are then not really all human are they.



If such an event comes, they have made sure that five years or more underground is going to be what they need to avoid this.




Who says Malevolent Aliens are holing up with ‘Elites’?
There is a much bigger picture than meets the eye.


Could not these lines insume that an alien presence is holed up with the elites. also of people Being controlled to my way of thinking is by mavolents and not by beings with good intentions in store.



The marks of the alien presence are also there, and I often see the Norwegian elite politicians are not what they say they are. It’s like they are controlled in every thought, and what they have to say is just as they are told to do things in such manners. It is clear for me who they are, and who they are not. You can see it in their eyes and in their minds.


How about these. why would there be screens with weird languages of unknown writting on them, surely not for human origins who cannot understand their meaning.



Then we got through this energy field and came to another room. I saw that there was a screen on the side of the wall that said HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.
After I saw this I was thinking: Is there such thing as 'NOT HUMANS'?
At the energy field check-in there was a screen, which I mentioned before. There was a weird language on the screen. I have never seen this before. Underneath it stood letters that were like the 'E' I told you about - but the only thing I could read was HUMAN - NOT HUMAN - PURE - NOT PURE.


maybe I see this all differently than you do in what was written, but to me these things seem to point to an alien type presence, mind control, five years of hiding, not human/not pure, and some mavolent type race that possibly makes themselves known to all that go into these bunkers.

What of these crystals and the powers from them, where have they come from. how do they play a part in the bigger picture. why are they not being used now to save the world and it's energy production or as other means of use to all.
certainly not anything to do with those that are benevolent of nature whose only goal is to help mankind out.



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean exactly by playing the bad guy roles but I do agree with unconditional forgiveness, love and patience, understanding/respect for all things. I do look forward to a bright and positive future because either way it will happen through life or through death which is only really ‘Life’.


White hats/black hats, from the perspective of "one" or a kind of quantum whole, would not those bad guy roles be truly aspects of self, light and love, programmed through pain, to be controllers or ruthless seeming, on a controlling program to wake us up to our separation all along wherein we have not paid enough attention and not loved all aspects of self, kind of abandoned parts of self to "pain" programs? Is not loving, seeing, stepping into each others shoes, feeling for each other, and recognizing the true light and love in all, the way of making the programs shrink into nothingness?



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 03:27 PM
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You still continue to listen to et_man?

The last date he mentioned came and went without any significant things happening. When i commented on this et_man chose to not answer regarding why nothing happened.

So i try once more, please, tell why the date you mentioned to bring something exceptional brought nothing, and why should we listen to you in the future?

As much as i want to believe, i think the credibility has gone down the drain here, just as david wilcock:s did after his "disclosure date" came and went along with the supposed "booked tv time"



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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I am very interested in his ideas, and also, since he has an understanding on a cosmic level, spiritual level, that is quite informed, I'm assessing, not his prediction about wormwood, as I don't believe in that, there are so many other things that I'm not going to give any power to either. I do believe we have a very conscious universe going on here, and that we have co-creational abilities that are enormous, that we all should join Max Igan's Great Intention and get a move on with it as well, to make certain that 2012 is edenistic, with a different ending, and beyond.


The Great Intention


For those who can, having a bug out kit is a very important thing to have, but many can't.
I prefer to go at this in a far better way, pro-active.

But he is a remarkable poster, and what is he doing, is he relaying something as he can, chosing a format that is known to substitute for something else to try and alert us to something that TPTB know of or are planning? Or is he programming the matrix?
Well, I am sending him love and light extraordinaire in any case, so he is either a white hat, or I recognize him as that under the mask.




posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 05:42 PM
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Hi Redgy,


Since he mentions five years or more to be safe before emerging . maybe not for the alien/beings, even though if the elites from these holes are being controlled they are then not really all human are they.


I’m sure they have 5years or more of food/storage stock but I can assure you the ‘elite’s’ do not bunk with ET’s. lol


Could not these lines insume that an alien presence is holed up with the elites. also of people Being controlled to my way of thinking is by mavolents and not by beings with good intentions in store.


That was the politicians opinion/suspicion but doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the way it is.


How about these. why would there be screens with weird languages of unknown writting on them, surely not for human origins who cannot understand their meaning.


Other civilizations that exist on Earth that are unknown/have been kept hidden to current civilizations.


maybe I see this all differently than you do in what was written, but to me these things seem to point to an alien type presence, mind control, five years of hiding, not human/not pure, and some malevolent type race that possibly makes themselves known to all that go into these bunkers.


(There is an alien type presence) Five years of food storage doesn’t necessarily mean that is how long certain particular groups/governments plan to be underground only that they are preparing/prepared for the worst and all possible outcomes/scenarios. Most will be out within months is my best guess. (Some sooner)


What of these crystals and the powers from them, where have they come from. how do they play a part in the bigger picture. why are they not being used now to save the world and it's energy production or as other means of use to all. certainly not anything to do with those that are benevolent of nature whose only goal is to help mankind out.


There are many hidden technologies with free energy capabilities/devices available and being withheld from the world at this time. Such devices will be used and become available in the future and aftermath.

Best Wishes!





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posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 05:47 PM
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Hi Above,


The last date he mentioned came and went without any significant things happening. When i commented on this et_man chose to not answer regarding why nothing happened.


Are you sure you haven't mixed me up with someone else?


So i try once more, please, tell why the date you mentioned to bring something exceptional brought nothing, and why should we listen to you in the future?


I'm not sure exactly what your referring to here, what date?

Best Wishes!



posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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Hi Unity_99,

Thanks for adding the positive/uplifting things to the thread. I agree with that kind of approach and everyone should hope/wish for the best in all things always. I only think it would be somewhat wise to prepare also a food/storage as a backup plan nothing wrong with that.

There’s a certain truth to co-creating in this existence on a certain level/degree but obviously those suffering from starvation in 3rd world countries for example cannot manifest a buffet of ‘food’ for themselves. It’s a hard world but they can go out with a ‘smile’ to the best of their ability. Hard to imagine and I wish I could help those people but the fact is most of them will never be helped and they will starve to death and are starving to death in large numbers on a daily basis. I have them in my thoughts/prayers continually and hoping the best for the world continually.

Positive thoughts can attract positive things so people should stay focused on the 'positive' and hope for the best outcome in all things but at the same time be prepared for all things and being prepared does include physical preparations but for those who are thinking more 'Eternal' well then the 'Soul' is all that counts and must be prepared to face/meet all things at all times.

Peace, Love & Light!

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posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 06:23 PM
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OK, the third world situation is one of the biggest issues I can imagine, and its heart rending, has given me nightmares all my life. Since I don't have physical means to address these concerns, and often find that many wide awake people are not positioned to start international movements or organizations, ie they are like Joni Mitchell's song from her dog eat dog album, "the watchful ones amongst the slaves" I approach this metaphysically as much as I can. I never program the matrix with words like "they will never..." as that's not what I wish for.

I think big in my law of affinity work. I have had some real short term results, not to mention doing long term goals.

The short term results that blew me away, where, (first of all I want to add that this was in a position of being in a relatively high, and even very high, needing to ground, frequency, from meditation, binaurals such as in the Bach to the Future thread, especially the Compassion one, and there's a reason for that, and I will explain it, and listening to hours of dolphin and whale meditations, well the videos I got from youtubes.
Combining them with pure binaural tones from here www.jetcityorange.com...)

I did short term, cloud work, hearts, never seen them before in clouds. 20 minutes or so later after concentrating for 20 minutes, I got them, unbelievably amazing. I also got, the u2u I asked for from someone I hadn't heard from in months, and another amazing thing, the very next day after picturing them and affirming them.

The long term, I see are incredible. I have this personal wish to move to a farm, an eco village type set up, with wonderful hemp production, crafts, inventions, art, community and just shining the light to others. Well, listening to the compassion binaural was incredible, because it has subliminal messages, positive ones, and THEY WORK, they work in an amazing incredible way. (just imagine what that means in terms of our world, and the bad subliminal messages in all our media, news, television......in fact, when I researched this, because I want to make my own binaurals, mixed with nature and cretacean sounds, and positive subliminal messages, my internet went off over and over again. Only twice did this ever happen.

I always post above the radar. I figure if THEY want me, they can come to door and knock on it, because, I do have ever so much I wish to say to THEM anyway.


But in all my time of posting above the radar, the only time my internet was cut over and over again was for the subliminal messages and also for my posts on threads on geomagnetic pole reversal. Deep rabbit holes.)

So, during hte compassion one I saw our farm, I saw whole cities waking up. I saw, us having visits from star families, crafts, picnic tables with neighbors and ets. It was so cool. I saw meditation groups spreading like wildfire throughout the world and groups of people protesting by sitting down in huge numbers, meditating and shieldign. I saw the guards, armies, dropping their weapons and joining them. I saw that no, absolutely, no plan against the people will ever prosper.

I also, saw disclosure. Third world countries, children, boys and girls equal, equality measured by both wearing jeans, coming from their earthship wonderful eco homes, with flying saucers in their backyards for transportation, going to school for their 180 year cosmic educations.

I'm an experiencer and was monitored throughout the entire meditation, and was told "this is it, THINK BIG". I don't manifest small.

They're going to be rescued and so are the whales and dolpins.



One of my online friends, whose wonderful summer project was spent coming up with this, well I envision a world organization getting energy devices and seed, sprouting and food kits, and kits to get water going, to poor families throughout the world. I really we all, us middle classed constipated folk, join them.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Awakening II: Free Cities

Love and light
Sa'l Me't Ja'ri'n

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posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 07:01 PM
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Hi Unity_99,

Enjoyed that thanks.

"Never say Never" is my motto so I really should be extra careful in words.


There is always 'hope' and I know someday that things will be much different on Earth. I hope that 'Time' arrives soon for the sake of those who are experiencing/living difficult lives/suffering.

Since were on that subject I would like to mention that I'm leaving over seas soon to a 3rd world country and will have the opportunity to help some of the children that desperately need help. (That makes me feel good always) Of course I could never help them all but can help as many as I can to the best of my ability. I won't be around for a while but I have someone else who has taken over the e-book project. I'm currently not available for contact on the ec2011 site or any other site other than ATS for the next few days.

I will not be around to answer anymore questions until I get back from my overseas trip which may be a few months time but I think this thread has most of the answers if people take the time to review/read it. Anyway I wish you all the best and I ask you to follow Unity_99's words of advice in projecting good positive thoughts of outcome with positive 'intent' these are all good things and can help attract good/positive things in life and the future. This doesn't mean everything will be perfect but it's better to face life in the best way we can to the best of our ability finding the 'positive' in all situations.

I also recommend Miriam Delicado's site and she has a good/positive message to share revolving around the 'blue star' kachina (Hopi Prophecy) that also revolves around future Earth Changes and the cycle - 'The Great Day of Purification. I believe she is being directed in her work, everything comes with a reason/purpose.www.alienbluestar.com...

Saving up food storage and seeds is an important thing to do at this time.
Cleaning out the 'soul' and maintaining it is always important at 'all times.'
Benedict9, has many good positive/things to say on his site with a great message.
It's not about 'Fear' but 'Awareness.'
www.poleshift2011.com...

L & L
Best Wishes!


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posted on Dec, 27 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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Well your posts are great along with the faith you have in making a difference, and I hope if you're going to be working in this way, that you keep positive light and love in your heart and that you're able to be very effective.

And that you somehow can keep posting.

Hugs. Love and light.



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