Voting on a bill that hasn't been read. This just happened recently with the bailing out wallstreet.There's no accountability in our government anymore.

weather global warming is real or not we should all want a cleaner planet.

I got news, I worked for The Intel Corporation for quite a while. They are one of the cleanest companies out there. They run factories at 40% below OSHA standards (for pollution). They do this at great cost, billions of dollars per year.

They picked up the ball and ran with it when no one else wanted to lose profit. Now they are sitting pretty. Everyone had the same chance but everyone didn't take it.

The planet needs to be clean global warming or not. It sucks that the price of things will increase, but the benefit is ok IMHO. Just wondering if OP contacted his/her representative and stated they did not wish this bill to pass. Everyone that didn't pretty much has no say in it.

Originally posted by zorkthegreat


Go out and look as to why American's are hated the world over. Two faced, greedy, selfish, demanding and do not contribute anything to the rest of the world except suffering and demands.

Go back to your own country and be American, don't do it in ours.



[edit on 27-6-2009 by zorkthegreat]

Contribute nothing? Nice computer you have.....your welcome.


Ever use a blender? Your welcome.

Satellites? Your Welcome.

Telephone? Your Welcome.

Tampons? Your welcome ladies.

Tractors? Radio? Flashlight? Traffic Signals? Radio Astronomy? Radio Telescopes? Chemotherapy? The Defibrillator? Mobile phones? Carbon Dating? The Artificial Heart? The heart-lung machine?

Your welcome. Oh and how can I forget...

The Polio Vaccine, The hard disk, the integrated circuit, GPS, Birth Control, Glucose Meter.....

Heart Transplant surgery, Lung Transplant surgery, LED, LCD, Plasma displays..... The compact disk.

While we were busy NOT contributing anything to the rest of the world, we went ahead and gave the world, The smoke detector, E-Mail, The digital Camera, The Hepatitis B vaccine, The MRI Machine, Voicemail, and The Internet.

Please continue your idiotic rant against the country that gave the world all of that, it's nothing short of incredible to watch a person from a parasitic nation producing nothing but stupidity wail loud and hard about how the most inventive and generous nation in history contributes nothing. Oh...

I forgot, we also invented The motorcycle, The Automobile, and the Airplane. Hard to remember everything. But Your welcome for that also.


[edit on 27-6-2009 by aravoth]

Originally posted by jprophet420
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The planet needs to be clean global warming or not. It sucks that the price of things will increase, but the benefit is ok IMHO. Just wondering if OP contacted his/her representative and stated they did not wish this bill to pass. Everyone that didn't pretty much has no say in it.

This is not going to clean anything.... it is only going to put taxes on a gas that is actually benefitial for Earth..... How in the world is that going to clean up the Earth?.... what it will do is clean up the pockets of the regular people, and put that money on the pockets of politicians and other rich people.....

Wake the heck Up!!!!

Last month my electric bill was almost $250 ..I live in a freaking apartment, small one at that. I was just telling my husband we need to request an energy saving clothes dryer from the property owners, since we have to use their appliances.

So now my bill will be even higher!! We just can't afford it. I don't know what we are going to do.

Okay, I'm going FAR off topic here, but I feel the need to educate, as this is infuriating. When you are conjugating the phrase "you are", the correct spelling is "you're". When you are trying to state that I have ownership of something, the correct spelling is "your".

Examples:

"You're welcome."

"Your Legislative branch is full of irresponsible cowards."

"You're offending me by placing your genitals on my shoulder."

Do you see? DO YOU SEE?!

This was a partisan victory, you can't look at those 8 traitor Republicans and then proceed to blame the party, the Republicans voted against this in mass, all of this, everything we are seeing in this administration has been one big partisan orgy, the Democrat party has become a threat to our nation, they are on some kind of demented war path except we are their sworn enemy, they hate us and love China and Venezuala and Cuba and every stinking pile of evil govt out there but our own. whetever, they will all pay the toll at the end of the road for what they are doing.

You cannot contribute to the UN you demand a veto in everything you demand that we do this or that for our finances which has nothing to do with you. You demand you have control of our intelligence services you demand you have military bases in our countries but we dare not demand the same thing in return.

Yup. The cabbie in NYC and the guy sellin' oranges on the freeway in L.A. were the dudes who decided all that...get a life. This generic 2002 mall-punk anti-american rhetoric is getting old...

The American government is screwing its people just as hard as they are everyone else. This bill is ludicrous.

You actually think that by making something more expensive it'll go away? Especially things that have been deemed/made "essential" like oil...As a Canadian, I have "sin taxes"...beer, smokes, gas, the prices are all going up twice a year or so...gas is 1.29 a litre in my town, smokes go upwards of 12 bucks a pack, beer is 22 bucks a dozen...do we sell less? nope. Still just as many big trucks, suvs, just as much rampant alcoholism and pretty much everyone smokes. My town is not the greatest example as we have a high per capita income...but those lower-income makers (like myself) and people on social assistance don't spend any less on beer or smokes (i work in a convenience store, small town-know pretty much everyone)...and what's more, most of them have to buy an old pickup or old beat up Crown Vic (gas guzzlers for anyone not in the know) to get their kids to school in the minus 30 average temps in January and February, thanks to this carbon-caused global warming.

Anyone who thinks the bill is actually about helping the environment is fooling themselves...as one poster said this just opens the door for massive buyouts and monopolizing by the big energy players....and further polarizes "us and them"....I hope that "We The People" isn't suddenly whited out of your constitution without notice someday because Patrick Swayze lost his courageous battle with cancer.



[edit on 6/27/2009 by WizardVanWizard]

Originally posted by Gorman91
There is no resistance because we are in a world within a world. In our dead internet we are the knowing, and they the ignorant. We must therefore export the knowing to the outside world

Originally posted by Gorman91
There is no resistance because we are in a world within a world. In our dead internet we are the knowing, and they the ignorant. We must therefore export the knowing to the outside world

Originally posted by Gorman91
We must therefore export the knowing to the outside world

This is the key!
Well said. I have nothing else to add.

Those utlity increases were supposed to be for climate change as well. They were supposed to be for finding more environmental ways to utlize the utlities. I talked to an employeee at KCPL and she said the increase is to buy more coal. Is coal environmentally sound.
I remember hearing Obama talk about using coal for utlities. Is coal clean burining? I am so confused as to what is going on in america and the world anymore. It seems like so many lie that is hard to find the truth.