Why would they do this in PA and not do it in South Texas. Id think they need to have the national guard protecting the border from crazed drug cartels before they need to remove civil liberties in PA.

Or the police could do their job. Kind of ironic that the NAACP wants to take rights away. How is a curfew going to stop daytime violence? They will just shoot at an earlier time. What a joke.

Edit to add: Harrisburg is the new suburb of NYC since the working class cannot live there anymore. They say they want to turn NYC into a city of millionaires. That means all the people who keep the gears grinding will have to move far out. The taxes are too high in NJ so here they come. Watch out.


[edit on 26-6-2009 by timewalker]

this really worries me man. it will happen, and happen right here in our back yard. just how wide spread will this be? As soon as this would go into effect, how many people are going to swarm to the other towns and cities near by? how long till the swarms up rise and violence happens at a higher rate? I mean hell, people are already traveling to my AO from Harrisburg (aprox 25 miles) to rob and kill. hmm.... NAACP National Association for the Advancement of Colored People... doesnt bozo i mean nobama fit that group?

Another thing I'd like to point out, and since another poster mentioned the NAACP backing the push for martial law...

The majority of the "victims" and shooters were minorities, and mostly minors... with illegal firearms.

They are going to use this as an excuse... Mark my words.

Is the new Lexington Green going to be on the east, or west shore?

This sounds like Harrisburg is being used as a test, to me.

Remember what the did in D.C. and the people WEREN'T HAVING IT?

I think they are going to try another town and see if it bodes well there. I wonder if they will start doing this sort of thing in cities across the country on a regular basis and then gather up the info they learned from it.

It was the same thing in DC too. A string of shootings followed by extreme police presence even to the point of setting up check points.

Maybe this scenario will take out the check points and just have police swarming the streets and see if that is accepted better. Then they will try and find where the line is before the people get all out of sorts about what is going on. I bet they try everything aside from restrictions on movement/travel (which obviously didn't fare well in DC).

If this is the case, it's a bit creepy.

I just had to put this out there and it is PURE SPECULATION! So please go easy on me.

Been reading "The Dulce Book" and already there's two threads today that have made me recall things said in the book it's really weird.

This thread is reminding me of what was said about (now bear with me, I find it hard to believe too) aliens/government abductions that utlimately end in the abductee being implanted so that their minds could be "controlled" for certain tasks. I think it was saying something about how the main purpose was to make it seem like there was utter chaos happening and, in turn, the people would be more willing to have their freedoms taken away.

I'm sorry to make such a leap but, I just had to put it out there. What if these jumps in violence are related to this? You know, someone "threw a switch" in PA thereby causing a rise in violence, thereby creating an excuse to test out various martial law scenarios. Maybe the same thing happened in DC.

I know, I know. It's waaaaaaay out there but, I just made this thread a little more ATS'ish,

Originally posted by timewalker
Or the police could do their job.

Yeah, that's the problem. I don't know the specifics of where these shootings occurred - but I'm willing to bet they happened in areas that were heavily populated by minorities. I can't tell you how many times where I showed up to a shooting scene (often in broad daylight) where noooooobody saw anything - one such shooting occurred at a crowded bus stop at 9 am. We didn't have ONE person come forward to provide any information. If people in the community aren't willing to support the police then they shouldn't expect a thorough investigation. I do understand that, due to gang violence, many people are afraid to help the police and thereby become labeled as a "rat", but even anonymous tips are often lacking.

The NAACP is a big part of the problem by fostering the image that the police are just a bunch of racist rednecks that get off on abusing minorities. They say they want a reduction in crime but they turn minorities against the police and then complain that nothing is being done to prevent crime. Maybe the NAACP, instead of fighting the Constitution and the police, should turn their wrath against the idiots that turn communities into shooting galleries.

i agree with you nunya, it does seam like they are making it out to be worse then it is, and i think it will work with some people to take away their rights. its just kinda like how for weeks now all that fox news and cnn has done was show Iran and MJ up and dies? takes peoples minds off revolting and makes them morn, fills the news up with # that doesnt matter.

Well, it's just the state police, not federal troops. IMHO, nothing to get wound up about. But, I"m not in PA either.

Originally posted by SpacePunk
Well, it's just the state police, not federal troops. IMHO, nothing to get wound up about. But, I"m not in PA either.

Right... Here's the thing.

Being the capital of PA, Harrisburg has TWO police forces, PLUS a well equipped Sherriff's department.

There is the city police force, as well as the capital police. They are separate entities, but their jurisdiction intersects.

Why would the PSP get involved? Troop H, located on Elmerton Ave. Harrisburg, will likely be the most used troop of the PSP.

I don't think it's marshal law.

Maybe their local police force is too small to handle the problem? I live in Philadelphia and we have state police on our highways because local police could not handle it.

This rise in crime is not the fault of police. They are doing what they can with hands tied. This is the fault of corrupt judges. Most of these crimes are committed by people that are in and out of jail for violent crimes. Judges need to be accounted for when they continue to let these dirt bags out.

I recently passed through Pennsylvania and pulled over to take a phone call. I'm from Florida.

Concluding, a Highway Patrol officer pulled behind me to merely see if everything was alright, and he chuckled when I told him I couldn't drive and talk at the same time.

He did ask for my driver's license, and I handed him my license with my Concealed Carry Permit.

He visibly relaxed, handed them back, and asked out of curiosity what was I carrying and where?

I pointed to my center console and told him it was a 1911 Kimber. Then he talked about really wanting to get one for himself and it was just a man talking to a man.

The fact that the NAACP is getting involved says volumes about the source of the problem.

They should thank LBJ and his Great Society for what's going on today.

Ain't it Great?