Originally posted by jibeho
Nice uneducated and unfounded response. Generalize much? Let me generalize about you. You haven't read either bill yet. You don't have kids and you live in your parents basement.

1 of 3 ain't bad on your generalization. I don't have kids. But thanks for the unfounded, baiting comment. You really contributed didn't ya.

I bet my mark was better than 1/3 on my generalization.

By the way, what does a parent's basement smell like?

Originally posted by Aggie Man

Originally posted by jibeho
Nice uneducated and unfounded response. Generalize much? Let me generalize about you. You haven't read either bill yet. You don't have kids and you live in your parents basement.

1 of 3 ain't bad on your generalization. I don't have kids. But thanks for the unfounded, baiting comment. You really contributed didn't ya.

I bet my mark was better than 1/3 on my generalization.

By the way, what does a parent's basement smell like?

My parent's basement smells like pickling spices, laundry soap and an occasional whiff if moth balls and cedar.

Beyond that comment their is no point in reasoning with you. Did you even read my post about targeting 'disadvantaged youth'? If you agree with that portion of the bill then god help you.

Originally posted by Psynarchist
Why do We 'The Robbed' People have to roll up our sleeves even more?

Exactly. Let the people who want to volunteer volunteer. But don't force the ones who don't, because that'll only make them angry.

The president and first lady Michelle Obama did their part at Fort McNair, helping volunteers load 15,000 backpacks with books, healthy snacks and toys for children of the men and women of the armed forces.

Support your war economy today!

I find the type of volunteer work they did, to be pretty disturbing. They could have helped distribute food to homeless folk, or did some environmental work. But he chose to do this. For the kids! right? who can argue about stuff for the kids, nobody.

Well everything about this guy is totally calculated, that's what makes it so easy to see through. I just shake my head. This man was elected to try and extricate you people from war, and now he's wearing a USMC cheerleader uniform.

Originally posted by drmgj
It seems to me that sometimes "freedom" is being used as "me first". Maybe if you guys stopped complaining about how Obama is taking away your "freedoms" and did something for your comunities, the United States wouldn't be such a total and complete disaster.

Hahaha, so it's OUR fault that the banks got bailed out, that Billions more were sent to the War on Terror, that we're in an economic crisis, that jobs have gone overseas, that people defaulted on their mortgages, that unemployment rises?

What a joke.

What do you want the poor, sick, weak unemployed families living in tent cities to do for you today?

Get a grip, the reason most of us are living in this sort of crap is because a few are living it up with billions to their name, in huge mansions on green hills with fresh air and organic 5-star meals... Maybe you should take your guilt trip to them.

Forget PC. Most people in this country are stupid, ignorant, and uneducated, including those that have gone to college. That includes police, judges, lawyers, and doctors. People get sued over BS, taken in by the police for breaking laws that do not exist, given orders that are against the law by the judges that are supposed to know the law, the list goes on and on. You have people in management at what is supposed to be one of the most intelligent organizations in the world saying that KNOWLEDGE and PROCEDURES that are REQUIRED to be followed or you lose your job, forget the literally BILLIONS of dollars that it could cost the U.S., should be common knowledge and not be written down. Passed on by word of mouth. Business's that require people to work overtime for free and people who will do it because THEY ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A JOB. Stupidity all around. Than you want to FORCE all these people together to work together for whatever reason? Talk about a recipe for disaster!

Most people I know stay away from as many people as possible except for limited situations such as a occassional party or church for this very reason. The only way to stay out of trouble these days is to stay AWAY from people on a general basis. You can see on these threads how uncivil people are to each other. Put everyone who has answered this thread in the same room and what do you think would happen?

So why do it? Possibly to identify those who will not follow authority merely because they are told to. First you identify those who refuse to volunteer. Those that do go to avoid trouble will than be identified when in the group when given stupid, idiotic, asinine orders or who refuse to accept a arbitrary ruling by whoever is made an authority for the volunteers. There you go! You now know who to arrest for the BETTERMENT of the COMMUNITY. They are those that refuse to accept whatever they are ordered to do. As to what will happen to those that stay. Read up on brainwashing methods, coercive pursuasion, scientology methods of control.

Sorry. Been around to long, seen to many things occur to many times.

Originally posted by Psynarchist

Disadvantaged kids need to get out of poverty, not do even more unpaid labor for the fat of the land.

I highly doubt that any poverty stricken child, with the desire for higher education, would look at community service in exchange for college tuition as unpaid labor. This opens doors to so many that have so little.