I just heard in the news of a movie found here on the net, about a helicopter shooting some iraqi people.. They are supposed to be doing nothing, until the chopper starts to fire. Then they try to seek shelter, but get shot to pieces..

Anyone have a link to this movie? Id like to see it.

And feel free to lock this if the subject has already been brought up, tried to search but didnt find anything!

There were news of a new video clip, apparently very recent, showing a similar incident. I don't know the location yet.

When he rolls out from under the truck, one of the pilots says, "He's wounded."

The other pilot says, "Hit him," and the Apache opens fire again, killing the man.

When I was in Iraq, they told us we couldn't 'double-tap'. Meaning, if you shoot a guy, and he falls to the ground wounded, you can't walk up to him and shoot him dead, unless he was still trying to kill you. Once he is wounded and not a threat, and you kill him, it's murder. I'm not saying that those pilots were in the wrong, I don't know the rules for pilots. I'm asking if anyone knows why the rules are different for pilots rather than the people on the ground. I'm not bashing the pilots, I'm just curious as to why the rules are different.

"good old fun"

trigger happy i guess

Who cares. They obviously deserved what they got. Pilot's don't just go around shooting people...


Mr. M

They had a missle looking rod and looked very suspicious. They defenitely weren't innocent and the helicopter had been tracking them for miles allegedly.

Starchild, nobody deservs to die like a dog.....one of them was wounded, not a threat to the pilots....this is cold murder.
This just shows how the US troops "respect" the iraq civilians!!

Yup, the 'personnel' that were involved at the truck/car rendevous
were clearly try to hide a loaded RPG Launcher in the field, to be
used for a future convoy attack. "Clear, SMOKE 'EM"
Can anyone tell how far away the Apache would have been from
the targets, 'cause it seems to in a stationary hover.
Very impressive.
Sanc'.

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by sanctum]

Originally posted by Joe Cat
Starchild, nobody deservs to die like a dog.....one of them was wounded, not a threat to the pilots....this is cold murder.
This just shows how the US troops "respect" the iraq civilians!!

BOO HOO...

I'm sure the innocent people in the WTC felt the same way.

# 'em... They brought it upon themselves. Good riddents.


Mr. M

Originally posted by StarChild
BOO HOO...

I'm sure the innocent people in the WTC felt the same way.

# 'em... They brought it upon themselves. Good riddents.
Mr. M

I concur with Mr M.

They were the enemy, whom you try kill in a war.

Not sure why people have a problem with this?

Is it better to have let them shoot back at our guys before they got "smoked?" I don't think so.

Originally posted by Joe Cat
Starchild, nobody deservs to die like a dog.....one of them was wounded, not a threat to the pilots....this is cold murder.
This just shows how the US troops "respect" the iraq civilians!!

They were trying to load a weapon to be used against American troops I'd imagine. Taking them out was their job and they made the right move. This is what happens when you go to war, people die.

The US troops saw what was going on, received permission to attack the Iraqis who were trying to load an RPG and I believe it to be the right decision. Not to mention, I think they individuals lose the title of "civillians" while performing those types of actions.

So...let me try to understand your way of thinking, over 3.000 deads in the WTC gives the right to americans to kill anyone they want??!?!
Where's the proof that Saddam was involved in 911?? It seems that theres any proof......but that doesnt matter....US needs iraq oil...so you can kill who ever stands in your away.....

OK it's your way of thinking....i have to respect that!

Originally posted by COOL HAND

Originally posted by StarChild
BOO HOO...

I'm sure the innocent people in the WTC felt the same way.

# 'em... They brought it upon themselves. Good riddents.
Mr. M

I concur with Mr M.

They were the enemy, whom you try kill in a war.

Not sure why people have a problem with this?

Is it better to have let them shoot back at our guys before they got "smoked?" I don't think so.

And i do! 3 of them dead, compared to the truck load of people that RPG may or may not have been aimed at! And to Sanctum, the Copter was at a stationery hover strafing... the bullets comin from the mini gun are something like 8" long apparently... just a bit of random trivia from my behalf

Originally posted by Joe Cat
Starchild, nobody deservs to die like a dog.....one of them was wounded, not a threat to the pilots....this is cold murder.
This just shows how the US troops "respect" the iraq civilians!!

Joe Cat, are we talking about the same vid'. I can mail you the mpeg
(55mb) i've got. They were not civilians, they were combatants.
Sanc'.

Originally posted by Joe Cat
So...let me try to understand your way of thinking, over 3.000 deads in the WTC gives the right to americans to kill anyone they want??!?!
Where's the proof that Saddam was involved in 911?? It seems that theres any proof......but that doesnt matter....US needs iraq oil...so you can kill who ever stands in your away.....

OK it's your way of thinking....i have to respect that!

I have a feeling you aren't going to change your opinions no matter what we say, so I will try and leave it alone after this.

-- The helicopter was tracking these men
-- The men had a huge truck
-- They were seen acting very suspicious with an RPG
-- This is war, and they carried out a mission
-- These men were not innocent

Let me ask you this, what do you think we should've done? I mean seriously, leaving them alone would be the equivalent of letting somebody load up a gun, pull back the trigger, place it to your head and count down from 3. When are you supposed to tell them you've had enough and put a stop to it?

Originally posted by Joe Cat
So...let me try to understand your way of thinking, over 3.000 deads in the WTC gives the right to americans to kill anyone they want??!?!

No, the right of self defense gave them the right to kill those people in the video.

Where's the proof that Saddam was involved in 911?? It seems that theres any proof......but that doesnt matter....US needs iraq oil...so you can kill who ever stands in your away.....

It's a good thing we have all that oil now, maybe prices will drop back below $2 a gallon soon?

you can call them freedom fighters if you prefer.......
I wasn't questioning the dead of the first 2, im questioning the need to kill a wounded man....
i wasnt there but neither were you guys there....
so u cant say for sure it was a RPG...