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Topic started on 25-6-2009 @ 10:19 PM by ShadowMaster

You will have to forgive me if this is not the right place for this posting.

Most of you have heard of the Rex 84 Camps or supposed FEMA Detention Camps in recent months (or past years). There has been long reference that these camps did not exist. Well today, while looking for Contracts for my Company to Bid on, I stumbled across this Bid that I have referenced below with the appropriate links. While these do not appear to be the “evil” detention camps- they are still FEMA Camps.

For those of you that have not heard of Rex-84, I suggest that you search them out. There are plenty of references to them onn ATS and through google.

BID Information as copied from Offical Site:

Responder Support Camps (Base Camps)
Solicitation Number: HSFEHQ-09-R-0079
Agency: Department of Homeland Security
Office: Federal Emergency Management Agency
Location: Logistics Section

www.fbo.gov...

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 10:34 PM by rogerstigers

That is certainly an interesting request. I guess tent cities might become a thing of the past. hmm. I know I read an article somewhere about some sort of meta material that is solid at room temperature, but becomes flexible in a magnetic field, then becomes solid again when the field is removed. I can imagine sheets of this stuff bolted together and then cast over ballons to form domes.

*shrug* Well, I cannot find the article.. it was somewhere on sciencedaily or physorg.

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 10:37 PM by whoshotJR

My wife knows I'm a nut and read all types of stuff on this site and she says to me the other day. " You remember those big camps you talked about, a lady i worked on today said she is good friends with somebody who helped build one". This lady is pretty rich and has big ties so I ask what did she say about them?

She says they are pretty much just big concentration camps and they scared the crap out of the person who helped built it.

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 10:58 PM by C0NSP1R1ST

reply to post by whoshotJR

Well , if i were building that to i would be scared #less. Knowing one day this may kill innocent Men , Women and children of all ages...
If you have anymore information, please share it with us

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 11:00 PM by C0NSP1R1ST

reply to post by whoshotJR

Well , if i were building that to i would be scared #less. Knowing one day this may kill innocent Men , Women and children of all ages...
If you have anymore information, please share it with us

reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 11:08 PM by JaxonRoberts

OK, folks! Let's loosen up those tinfoil hats! If you read the link provided, the reason for such camps is spelled out quite clearly...

Pursuant to the Robert T. Stafford Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is authorized to provide individual and public assistance under Presidential declarations of a disaster and emergency. Types of disasters and emergencies that could happen across the United States are, but not limited to: hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, cyclones, tornadoes, blizzards, acts of terrorism, tsunamis, or avalanches. The contractor shall construct and operate a base camp to stage FEMA disaster responders and other authorized personnel and assets deployed for such declarations within disaster-declared states.

Pay close attention to the bold portions. I live on the east coast of Florida, and can tell you that when a hurricane strikes, first responders need a place for staging.

[edit on 25-6-2009 by JaxonRoberts]

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 12:16 AM by ShadowMaster

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
OK, folks! Let's loosen up those tinfoil hats! If you read the link provided, the reason for such camps is spelled out quite clearly...

[edit on 25-6-2009 by JaxonRoberts]

As I pointed out in the Orginal Post. It really depends on how much you read into this. I only went through about 2000 contract postings, there were a bunch more- but my eyes glazed over after that. I suspect these are to replace the trailers that are currently used. They are still Fema Camps.

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 12:27 AM by Boogley

reply to post by JaxonRoberts

Yeah, that's the official take on it. (That's why it's a conspiracy btw..)

Thanks for the info dude. It would be awesome if you could get the bid on it and get inside info lol.. I do emergency dispatch and general message taking for a few gas companies and actually took a message for a big gas delivery to a FEMA facility quite near me. It caught me off guard at first because of the fema camp stories haha.

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 12:29 AM by JaxonRoberts

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And FEMA stands for Federal Emergency Management Agency, as in the people who are tasked with responding to natural disasters. They need to establish a base of operations in the affected area to speed up assistance to those displaced or in need of help.

Now as to their timely effectiveness, that's a different matter. We'll just have to wait and see if the response to a natural disaster is better under the new administration than it was under the old one.

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 12:37 AM by Deus Ex Machina 42

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
OK, folks! Let's loosen up those tinfoil hats! If you read the link provided, the reason for such camps is spelled out quite clearly...

Pursuant to the Robert T. Stafford Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is authorized to provide individual and public assistance under Presidential declarations of a disaster and emergency. Types of disasters and emergencies that could happen across the United States are, but not limited to: hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, cyclones, tornadoes, blizzards, acts of terrorism, tsunamis, or avalanches. The contractor shall construct and operate a base camp to stage FEMA disaster responders and other authorized personnel and assets deployed for such declarations within disaster-declared states.

Pay close attention to the bold portions. I live on the east coast of Florida, and can tell you that when a hurricane strikes, first responders need a place for staging.

[edit on 25-6-2009 by JaxonRoberts]

People like this are the ones that won't rebel, the type of person that will actually side and sell out his species along with the government. Either htat, or he will just accept anything the government does and will never stand up for himself.

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 12:50 AM by JaxonRoberts

reply to post by Deus Ex Machina 42

Dude, you don't know me, or what I'm capable of! If, and I do mean if, the SHTF, you don't want to be in front of me, at least within 500 yards, unless you want a third eye. I'll only need one bullet.

As stated before, I live in an area that gets hit rather frequently by hurricanes, and I've seen FEMA in action. It's people like you who ass-u-me that everything is evil, and fail to see the true nature of some things. Everything is a conspiracy to you. Surprise! Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar! If you don't understand the last statement, google Sigmund Freud. Also, loosen up that tinfoil hat, it's cutting off the circulation!

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 08:56 AM by ignorant_ape

reply to post by whoshotJR

it would help if verifiable locations were provided - instead of just gossip

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 09:41 AM by Berens

Sure, the camps may be intended for emergency housing and relief. But, who trusts Obama to use them that way? I don't.

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 02:25 PM by ShadowMaster

Anything thing intended for good can be used for Evil. I live in a Hurricane Zone as well- I know that Fema can do great works of kindness- but they also can do great works of evil. It comes right down to the situation. This is just a bid- not one that I would Bid on due to the nature of my company. There are facents (contracts) that I would be interested in that is connected to DHS.

This is most likey to be a replacement of the dire trailer issue. It maybe much cheaper to house large groups in a tent city- but with that comes more issues. Security inside as well as outside would certainly be a problem.

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 02:57 PM by warrenb

reply to post by ShadowMaster

Please address the following questions:

1. FEMA has in the past in most cases used tents for housing First Responders when they had to construct the camp in open spaces. Are you aware of any other options versus building a "tent city"?

2. FEMA needs the ability to reduce or increase the size of the camp in a short timeframe. Based on that what is the best method of cost migration? Is there a way to execute reductions or increases more cost effectively and time efficiently?

3. FEMA has a requirement to provide turn key housing for First Responders for a minimum of 301 and a maximum of 2000 occupants. Would you recommend phasing or modular installation?

4. What is the shortest period of time in which subcontracting for equipment and personnel needed to support the camp (maintenance) can be conducted?

5. Based on the still pending requirement that all personnel must be cleared at a minimum, fingerprinting and credit check, will this affect the time to erect a camp and turn it over for occupancy by FEMA authorized personnel? The current time is 72 hours.

The National Base Camps contract will be used at the time a Federal disaster is declared. FEMA shall be able to call upon vendor/vendors to provide Base Camp Services in the Continental United States (CONUS) depending the region affected by the disaster.

Notice they do not say "in the event that a Federal disaster..." but rather "at the time a Federal disaster..."

ummm what are they hiding from us?

Base Camp implies the camp that the personnel will be housed in.

It says 301 to 2000 base camp personnel. So I guess that means doctors, guards, admin, etc ?

Based on the figure above (301-2000) can we estimate the number of the disaster stricken guests to the main camp?

Contractor shall have the ability to provide two concurrent base camps.

Also each contractor will be in charge of setting up and maintaining 2 camps.

so not 301-2000 but 602-4000 base camp personnel.

but...

The COTR will give the contractor at least a 24-hour period of notification prior to any changes in the estimated camp population. The COTR may only adjust base camp populations to levels not to exceed the maximum or minimum base camp capacity established in the task order. Vendor must be capable of scaling the camp size up or down in increments of 100 occupants, not to exceed base camp capacity range in one 24-hour period, within 24 hours of notification. Adjustments in camp capacity will not be done more frequently than once per week unless negotiated through the Contracting Officer.

so they can add even more personnel as required

something fishy in the air!

[edit on 26-6-2009 by warrenb]

reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 03:00 PM by whoshotJR

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by whoshotJR

it would help if verifiable locations were provided - instead of just gossip

I agree, My wife see's her every few weeks and I asked her to please try and get me some more information if possible.

reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 10:13 PM by JipStix

Not particularly alarmed by this thread, as it appears like it's a 'BoO' Camp, or Base of Operations camp.

What does alarm me is this:

I live near a national guard readiness center (basically a national guard base). Over the course of my life I've been by the base hundreds of times on my way to the highway.

I've always looked over, taken a glance if you will, at the hardware they have behind the fence (It's a chain-link barb-wire fence, easy to see through driving by).

Not ONCE (in 20 years) have I ever seen vehicles mounted with weapons there, until last week.

I drove by and there were at least 20-25 Humvees with .50 caliber machine guns (with bullet shields) on top. Now, this might not sound odd, even though I've never seen them before.

The problem is that these Humvees are painted FOREST GREEN camouflage, not Desert Camo.

Still, they could just be using them for training or whatever, but the thought did pop into my head as to why they were really there.

I would take a few pics but I don't want to get arrested, what are the laws about that?

reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 11:54 AM by LadyInRed

reply to post by JaxonRoberts

Then if there just there to help why are they there umm lets see people have waited out blizzards in there homes for years even more on there own ummm losing the tin around my head needing speacial cards to get into and out of the camps ummm all the things the camps are for we have always gotten through on our own why so meany if they had built an open in high lvl areas for floods ect I could accept that the only people us tin hat people can think need such an big set up was ummmm guess now cause Im so dumb right is omg omg Hitler what ya know wow us tin foil people can think wake up

[edit on 5-7-2009 by LadyInRed]

reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 12:11 PM by Genus

isn't FEMA illegal anyway under the 10th Amendent as it was organized beyond the enumerated powers of the Fed? That always irked me to be honest.

reply posted on 5-7-2009 @ 05:20 PM by JaxonRoberts

reply to post by LadyInRed

Surely you don't expect me to replly to such gibberish?!?!? I mean that in the literal sense as well. Umm, and maybe you could reference you accusations as well, just who has waited outside for years? I also never stated that they were competent. I love how some put the Government in a no win situation. If they don't respond to a natural disaster, they're evil. If they do, they lack the Constitutional authority. Considering the villification, I wouldn't blame them if they chose the latter!

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