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You Wanted Disclosue, You Got Disclosure

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posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by ashestoashes
I believe disclosure is undoubtedly going to happen. It is not a matter of a 'if', but a 'when'.
There is simply too much of evidence staring at us in our faces to ignore.
Doubtless there will be strife, confusion and a bit of madness.


Lol I think the madness will come from the Skeptics. We believers and sighting witnesses will just be saying 'I told u so!'




posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by nunya13

reply to post by JPhish
 



Unfortunately, it's not obvious to most and downright ludicrous to some. I think the main point of people who believe these things due to all the evidence that suggests such, is to inform those who don't believe.
well yes, i don't take offense to people calling me crazy nor do i chastise them for not believing. But like yourself, i think it's important that people acknowledge the possibility (although for me it's a certainty).



For me, if I were to try to convince someone that there are aliens and that they have been and are on Earth, it's because I don't want them to lose their ever-loving mind when they DO land on the White House lawn or worse, kill themselves.

Seriously, there are people that will go insane, become violent, and even murder their family to "spare them" (supposedly that's why the NASA employees wife killed her children...supposedly) and then kill themselves.
makes you wonder if there is a lot more to the story we don't know about. Perhaps something truly horrifying. Regardless, i'd rather be disturbed by the truth than oblivious to it.



In a sense I think we owe it to our fellow human beings to help inform them. They don't have to believe 100%, but it's imperative that they at least are able to accept the possibility if we are to avoid utter chaos should disclosure actually happen.
i approach strangers all the time and attempt to "hint" to them that there is a strong possibility that there are ETs in our universe. Anything to boost awareness.


I do believe this is why the government is very slowly conditioning us to at least accept that there could be other beings not only in the universe/galaxy with us, but that visit us or maybe even be based on Earth.

Obviously they have to ride a fine line between disclosure and conditioning because if they divulge too much too soon then people will panic. It's just sad that it's taken a couple decades for them to get at least a fair amount of people to accept the possibility.

of course, which makes me wonder . . . perhaps they ARE indeed going about disclosure the safest way possible. The war of the worlds social experiment probably convinced them that an abrupt disclosure could be chaos . . .



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 05:50 AM
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I also am under the assumption that disclosure has been happening incrementally for several decades.

There are just far too many correlations.

I do applaud the .gov that they are actually releasing some documents to us despite the fact there are a lot of blackouts.

Keep the documents coming I say!



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 05:57 AM
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assumption? you're being too kind to the skeptics muz, it's blatantly obvious that the pope has been debriefed. His whole "believing in aliens doesn't hurt your faith" speech pretty much solidified that.



posted on Jun, 27 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by tristar If your expecting someone to drop classified information in this site, well your very much mistaken.


On that we are in total agreement...
But they do not understand that

I got this just yesterday... in a crop circle thread
I merely pointed to the 'possibility' that the boys at MIT were doodling with the beam weapons in space

from a believer...



I wouldn't be grinning like that if I were you.. I would be ashamed of myself. If what you are saying is true, then you not only have the inside knowledge on what is going on, you also SUPPORT these guys and you sound like you are on friendly terms with them. If you have a source that chooses to remain anonymous and you do nothing to expose him and blow the phenomena wide open (instead you are on here grinning about it), then you are nothing but an ACCESSORY to these creeps in my opinion.

If, on the other hand, what you are saying is a load of baloney, then you are nothing but a disinformation specialist.




I tell ya you cannot win...

It really is true... They cannot handle the truth if it upsets their apple cart

Expose a confidential source? Why don't I just shoot myself in the foot



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 03:55 PM
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Even is someone was to present a document or image of what may very well be authentic, it would easily be discredited by the appropriate people supplying all the relevant url's, with backed up language to make sure the authentic is seen as a fake/hoax.



posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by tristar
Even is someone was to present a document or image of what may very well be authentic, it would easily be discredited by the appropriate people supplying all the relevant url's, with backed up language to make sure the authentic is seen as a fake/hoax.


Yes by most... but not by 'some' people. Let me ask you something... are you familiar wit 'extant'?




posted on Jun, 28 2009 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by tristar
Even is someone was to present a document or image of what may very well be authentic, it would easily be discredited by the appropriate people supplying all the relevant url's, with backed up language to make sure the authentic is seen as a fake/hoax.


Yes by most... but not by 'some' people. Let me ask you something... are you familiar wit 'extant'?





Yes i am, if what your are referring to are the theories



posted on Jun, 29 2009 @ 02:19 AM
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Zorgon, You are a very highly educated individual from what I can tell from reading your posts.
so can you enlighten me on what you might possibly mean by "extant"


 
Posted Via ATS Mobile: m.abovetopsecret.com
 



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 10:34 AM
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Do I belive in aliens? Yes.

Do I think we'll ever have disclosure? Not in a million years.



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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Exactly how I feel about the subject. Good post!



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by tristar If your expecting someone to drop classified information in this site, well your very much mistaken.


On that we are in total agreement...
But they do not understand that

So should the site be renamed from "abovetopsecret.com" to something more appropriate like, "ifyouarelookingforabovetopsecretinfodontlookhere.com"? Nah, maybe not, a bit too hard to type the URL, LOL.

Actually I'd settle for declassified stuff, like what really happened at Roswell..wait, we already have that, right? Or did they just replace one lie with another?

We'll continue to see declassification of black projects like the F-117, SR-71 etc as they reach a point where they no longer need to remain classified. Anyone waiting for disclosure of anything more than that is in for a disappointment.



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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A thought on disclosure; if there is alien tech being used by the governments of the world, and if they are in contact with said aliens and if this has thus far given them an edge in the military of said governments, then why would they disclose it?
If on the other hand they have had no contact with aliens or alien technology and all top secret projects are of terrestrial origin, they would have no alien information to disclose and why would they disclose the secret projects they are working on either, and loose their advantage in that area?

In either case it would lead to no disclosure of any kind.

If I were an alien race and I knew about this planet and the destructive capabilities of the human species, I would not disclose myself to them, but rather find a way to secretly aid in continuing wars on the planet in hopes of keeping them so preoccupied in order to slow the possibility of them spreading out and colonize other planets, or possibly aid in the destruction of a big portion of the population, which could in turn eventually set them back in their technology supporting the initiative in keeping the human species on their own planet. I am not saying that this is happening, but if aliens were here this seems the more likely scenario. Which would still lead to no disclosure.



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by AlienCarnage
In either case it would lead to no disclosure of any kind.

Bingo, you nailed it my friend. Lots of reasons to not disclose, and no reasons to disclose, in either scenario, until as I said before, the secret tech is obsolete like the SR-71. It's a no-brainer.



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Solomons
Why would astronauts or your average fighter pilot know about blacker than black..black projects?


Well the astronauts flying those blacker than black secret spaceship would certainly know about them


You DO know about the secret astronaut corp, yes?



Well stay tuned... new thread coming



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by antar
What people really want Op is current, real footage that is not fake or a hoax.
The past is the past, let it go.


Let it go? Oh no, that is the wrong approach. You see those document lead to names... and some of those names are still alive today, many retired. It is then a relatively simple manner to contact these people and talk to them




The present is where will uncover the truth. The present is where we will as the people bi pass the Governments and shoot straight to the stars and beyond.


Hmmm yes the present... about shooting straight to the stars... ya gotta slip past space command's fleet first
Anyone have a Millenium Falcon? I would love to take a quick run out the Venus and swing by the Moon for a few clear shots..

OH and on that score... considering how many people here have direct contact with aliens, how about ya put in a word for me so they can give me a quick lift? I mean it should be a milk run considering how many there are around Earth... Dang it just a quick hop to the Moon for starters would be fine... I'd take a Navy shuttle but those G-forces are a bit rough at my age



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 12:31 PM
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nice going op

theyll always be ignorant people who deny

(op)) i sy this to you you know your own truth and thats all what matters.....

dont waste your time trying to convince people as them being ignorant is their problem NOT yours



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 09:32 PM
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Very interesting find... I'll reserve judgment.



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by plejarenlyran
nice going op

theyll always be ignorant people who deny

(op)) i sy this to you you know your own truth and thats all what matters.....

dont waste your time trying to convince people as them being ignorant is their problem NOT yours


I have stopped trying to convince people or providing tangible accounts of what is happening many years ago. As people are extremely predictable, the majority do acknowledge that we cannot be alone in this vast vaccum we call space, but for reason's either religious or science they do require hard proof of evidence.

As i have written earlier, the mere mention of ufo's and alien's breed's contrudictive thoughts in ones world or should i say his or her perception of a world. To officially announce their existence will only bring global panic and disruption of ordered society.

To put it simply, the world cannot handle such information.



posted on Jul, 2 2009 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
So should the site be renamed from "abovetopsecret.com" to something more appropriate like, "ifyouarelookingforabovetopsecretinfodontlookhere.com"? Nah, maybe not, a bit too hard to type the URL, LOL.

Actually I'd settle for declassified stuff, like what really happened at Roswell..wait, we already have that, right? Or did they just replace one lie with another?

We'll continue to see declassification of black projects like the F-117, SR-71 etc as they reach a point where they no longer need to remain classified. Anyone waiting for disclosure of anything more than that is in for a disappointment.


The Rosewell incident is as elusive as what happened to the Hindenburg or Kennedy. We all have a rough indication, but we cannot put our finger on it.

Considering that the Stealth project and prototypes were first drafted in early 60's then the timeline first showed an actual working battle model in the 90's should give you an indication of how far ahead things are.

Here is a little question,

Why are the majority of reports about Black triangles only at night ?



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