You Wanted Disclosue, You Got Disclosure, page 2

Great thread! I find this one fascinating.

Originally posted by tim1989
This is when the Mr. Know It All comes in. AKA the skeptic AKA the average Joe sitting on his computer ..(snip)..somehow he was able to come to the conclusion that what the pilot saw was nothing more than a bright star or a weather balloon or a flock of birds whatever.

That's me Mr know it all who can explain away most sightings (except I'm not average, accepted by Mensa etc). And in some cases I'm sure I know how to explain something the pilots didn't know how to explain. However, I can't explain this one. This is what draws me to this field of interest, there is something fascinating about the unexplained and I love it when I find a case like this which I can't explain. So please do me a favor and don't condemn all Mr Know-it-alls, our mission is not to debunk every case, it's to find the truth, and the truth is, this case is really mysterious.

Originally posted by elevatedone
I usually ignore these "disclosure" threads, but enough is enough.

First of all, do I believe that aliens exist, well I'm not sure, but I tend to think that it's pretty silly to believe out of all of the galaxies, planets and stars in the universe that we're the only intelligent beings that exist.

I agree and certainly the Seti Institute believes there's a high probability of this or they wouldn't be putting all that scientific effort into finding ETs.

Originally posted by elevatedone
Now that being said, UFO's do they exist, yes of course they do. People see objects flying all the time that are not identified. Are they alien or from another world, I must say, probably not. I think 98% of them are man made either for a hoax attempt or secret government aircraft.

One of the biggest UFO proponents I know of, Bill Birnes, publisher of UFO magazine and star of the "UFO hunter" series, mentioned on one episode something to the effect that something like 95% of all UFO sightings were garbage, but that left 5% that were really interesting. So the difference between the UFO advocate and a skeptic is only 5% mysterious, versus 2% mysterious, that seems like amazingly good agreement for opposing viewpoints. I'll split the difference and say 3-4% seem mysterious. Question is, do you think this is one of the 2-5% that's interesting? I do.

Originally posted by elevatedone
So this whole disclosure thing. Does our government or any government know of alien existence, I don't know. What would they gain by disclosing it to people?

I don't think we'll ever have disclosure by any government, period.

I don't know about the "any government" part, but most governments have incentives to not disclose.
Case in point: Roswell, 50 years after the incident the US government admitted they had been lying about the incident for 50 years, they were hiding a classified project and that's why they came up with the weather balloon cover story. IF a government had access to alien technology (and that's a huge IF), wouldn't that be 100 times more valuable from a national security perspective than that stupid old listening device they were hiding at Roswell, what was it a microphone or something? And that was top secret? The government probably doesn't care a whit about whether or not the public can "handle the truth" IMO, they want every advantage they can get when they go to war and keeping secret technology secret is a good way to keep an advantage, whether the technology is manmade or from somewhere else. Therefore I agree the incentives to not disclose any secret technologies is pretty large, until the technologies become obsolete, like the SR-71, but we know when they disclose those they have newer and better secret technologies to replace it.