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Topic started on 25-6-2009 @ 05:31 PM by Phage
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I just came across this cool thingy which shows the current location of the LRO over the surface of the Moon.
lroc.sese.asu.edu...
In other news, the LRO completed its third orbital burn this morning, putting it into a 2.58 hour orbit. Still pretty high.
lroupdate.blogspot.com...
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reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 05:53 PM by paperplanes
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Thank you, thank you, Phage. I've been making a decidedly feeble attempt to keep up with the LRO's journey, and this will most certainly help the
cause.
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reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 06:06 PM by MajesticJax
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Hi Phage,
When is the rocket body supposed to strike the moon? July 7th was what I thought. Am I right?
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reply posted on 25-6-2009 @ 06:27 PM by Phage
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 08:57 AM by MajesticJax
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Originally posted by Phage
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The LCROSS impact is scheduled for October 9.
Thank you very much.
2nd line.
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 01:05 PM by ngchunter
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If anyone wants the coordinates of the LCROSS spacecraft you can generate them based on your location, date, and time using the HORIZONS system:
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov...
Note that LCROSS will generally be far from earth up through lunar impact, so you'll need some serious telescopic or imaging equipment to see it.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 10:28 AM by Soylent Green Is People
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Thanks for the website, Phage.
I just looked at the past orbits (I think you can only look back 3 past orbits) and it seemed to me that the LRO was just recently over the Apollo 11
landing site (perhaps 9 or so orbits prior to the time of this post).
Wouldn't it be a great present if on July 20th (the 40th anniversary of the Apollo 11 landing) NASA would release a high-res picture of the landing
site. Hopefully the camera was operating well enough during that fly-over, or hopefully it will orbit over the Apollo 11 site again before July
20th.
The Moon is presently in its first quarter phase, so the Apollo 11 landing site just recently rotated into the "lit" part of the Moon (that area was
in darkness until recently, and will be dark again in a couple of weeks).
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 11:15 AM by Phage
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It's going to be a while longer before the cameras are fully functional.
Except for a few hours during the LOI burn the heaters have been keeping the telescopes at about 50 degrees C (122 F). It should take the heaters
about two weeks to bring the cameras into focus. Focus test images acquired in orbit will tell us when the cameras are truly in
focus. Source
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 11:24 AM by Soylent Green Is People
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Oh well -- it doesn't sound like we will get an Apollo 11 picture in time for the Anniversary. I'm sure they are hoping to release some other
stunning images in concert with the 40th Anniversary (i.e., I bet they are hoping to get the cameras fully operational by then).
The LRO website says "Early July" for images. I assumed that meant that the cameras were at least "partially working" (but not up no nominal spec
standards) right now -- or would be very soon.
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reply posted on 29-6-2009 @ 11:29 AM by Phage
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I think early July is still go. The heaters were started at launch so the cameras should be up to spec by the end of this month.
Yesterday the alignment of the bird was set so it will always be pointed straight down toward the surface of the Moon.
Nadir
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:40 PM by Phage
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We may see some preliminary images by this weekend.
From yesterday:
Today the LRO Team powered up the LROC cameras for a few hours to collect engineering data. Over two orbits we monitored temperatures and
background values to give us a leg up when we start commissioning phase imaging on Friday. Of particular interest is the temperature of the NAC CCDs,
two parameters that control the background level of the camera, which are selected based on temperature. Having actual measurements beats a thermal
model any day!
Source
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:43 PM by tothetenthpower
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Perhaps you could enlighten me on why the cameras need to be heated up before they can be used phage?
I'm just thinking that they would work out of the box??
~Keeper
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reply posted on 1-7-2009 @ 07:47 PM by Phage
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These aren't Brownie cameras.
The LROC Narrow Angle Camera carbon-fiber structure absorbs water under ambient conditions (Earth's atmosphere) resulting in expansion, which
puts the camera out of focus. Once in the vacuum of space the camera outgasses, the structure shrinks, and presto, the camera is in focus.
Source
The heaters are to help dry the cameras out.
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 03:00 PM by VitalOverdose
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When do we get to see evidence of all the moon landing sites then?
After they have had time to take the pics and add CGI?
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 03:50 PM by Phage
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 04:03 PM by ngchunter
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Originally posted by VitalOverdose
When do we get to see evidence of all the moon landing sites then?
After they have had time to take the pics and add CGI?
Actually I personally suspect they'll try to image tranquility base on or before the 40th anniversary rolls around. You've already come to your
conlusion before seeing the first pixel though, so it's obvious that no amount of evidence will convince you it wasn't fake.
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 05:18 PM by VitalOverdose
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Seeing pics of all the landing sites before the the probe had time to make a few orbits while its 'cams warmed up' would have gone a long way to
making me a believer.
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 05:35 PM by Phage
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I think they were more concerned about making sure every thing worked properly and not burning anything out than convincing you that the moon landings
were not hoaxed.
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reply posted on 2-7-2009 @ 06:19 PM by VitalOverdose
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by VitalOverdose
I think they were more concerned about making sure every thing worked properly and not burning anything out than convincing you that the moon landings
were not hoaxed.
I don't doubt your right there phage im just saying its a shame it happened that way as its just going to cast more doubt over the validity of the
final pics.
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reply posted on 3-7-2009 @ 01:22 AM by jra
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Originally posted by VitalOverdose
Seeing pics of all the landing sites before the the probe had time to make a few orbits while its 'cams warmed up' would have gone a long way to
making me a believer.
How could they get pics of all the landing sites before the probe had time to make a few orbits? You do realize that there are 6 landing sites, all in
different areas of the Moon right? Plus LRO wasn't in the proper orbit when it first entered Lunar orbit. It was in a 220 km by 3100 km and then it
spent 5 days adjusting its orbit to a 30 km by 199 km commissioning orbit. The probe is still in a commissioning phase and isn't even in it's final
orbit yet. It takes time allow each team to turn on, test and calibrate each of the 7 instruments on board.
Space probes do not operate like a consumer product. You don't just push the power button and start taking pictures right away. Everything has to be
checked out to make sure it's all working properly. You don't want to risk doing something that causes a $500 million dollar spacecraft to shutdown
or not work properly.
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