Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by BigSarge
It was dipping slightly left and right, it was not steady, so it may very well have been turning and/or not flying in a direct path.
If it was dipping and unsteady and probably turning, as you describe, then how did it manage to fly a straight flight-path to knock down the five
light poles?
I had sent BigSarge a message asking if he'd call me but he
replied on the
board that he does not want to be independently interviewed. Unfortunately I have a feeling we are not going to be hearing from BigSarge
anymore. Hopefully I'm wrong. But this statement about an unsteady/turning/not direct flight path, as well as other things he has said led me to
believe he was being honest. He hasn't said anything so far that has convinced me he is a liar. Of course that could change if he comes back and
his story starts morphing but as I said, I doubt he will.
Assuming that he is honest, what's clear is that he did not view the evidence presented in the video before deciding to jump in on the
conversation.
We know that because he said this:
Anytime I hear people try and say that it was missles or whatever other incorrect conspiracy theory out there I feel the need to give my point of
view, of what I witnessed.
BigSarge quote source
Naturally that can't be what compelled him to post a response here because clearly there is nothing in the video that says anything about missiles.
BigSarge also came off as rather oblivious to the fact that the video includes interviews with multiple Arlington Cemetery workers who were right next
to where he claims he was, but with a perfectly clear view of the approach of the plane completely unobstructed by trees.
I think he would find that very compelling and if he is honest, my guess is that he has now viewed the interviews and understands how he is not able
to refute their accounts, and in fact corroborates them. Which could only mean that he would be rather unnerved having found out for the first time
about the incredible implications of what he witnessed that day.
We do know for a fact that if he was where he
says he was, in section 70,
that he would not have been able to see the alleged impact and he would not have been able to see the plane on the official flight path at the
official speed for more than a fraction of a second, if at all.
Here is an image taken on 9/11 from the exact section where he says he was located on the very edge of the cemetery:
Here's what it looks like from further back in the same section:
Here is a gif showing the entire area revealing how he would not have a view of the official flight path at all:
I walked all over this section analyzing all the potential views and I can promise you that there is no place at all that would allow you to see the
plane on the official flight path for more than a mere fraction of a second, particularly at the officially reported speed of 460 knots.
So if BigSarge is honest, we know that the plane HAD to have been on the north side approach to remotely match his account.
Here is a view of the Navy Annex from the outer edge of that section by Patton Drive where it would have been the best possible vantage of the plane
on the official southern approach after it passed the Navy Annex during its
(
impossible) high speed descent and pull up to be low and level enough to
hit light pole 1:
And here it is from closer inside that section:
There is no view of the official south side approach from this location at all.
Because remember, the official data and physical damage absolutely 100% require the plane to be entirely south of Columbia Pike and even completely
south of the VDOT building across the street from the Navy Annex:
BigSarge would have only been able to catch a quick flash if anything at all if the official story was true. He already understood that a plane
significantly south of the Navy Annex would have been obscured to him which is evident from this statement he made:
Had it flown far to the left of the Annex, it would have been directly over me, which it was not. Had it been far to the right of the Annex, it
would have been obscured from my view by trees.
BigSarge quote source
BigSarge already knew that he would not have been able to see the plane if it was entirely south of Columbia Pike and the VDOT building as required by
the official story. But like most witnesses, he was simply unaware of the required official story flight path.
Of course his claim of seeing bodies during the clean up is not surprising. We know that people were killed inside the Pentagon and BigSarge already
understands how he was not able to actually identify the bodies and he even said as much here:
I would find it very hard to believe that it was an empty plane with no passengers, but I guess it could be possible as none of them were
identifiable.
BigSarge quote source
His claim of seeing plane parts is not surprising either as we know there were a relatively few amount of parts that were photographed. Obviously
BigSarge would have no way of knowing if these parts came from Flight 77 or tail# N644AA or whether or not they were in the building before the
event.
Same goes for suitcases, ID's, and passports. All of this is stuff that could have belonged to Pentagon employees and/or been actually planted
inside the building prior to the event and BigSarge would have no way of determining this.
But if he is honest and he was really in section 70 of Arlington Cemetery, his account of seeing the plane AT ALL is evidence in support of the north
side approach proving the plane did NOT hit the light poles or the building.
His description of the behavior of the plane as quoted in the beginning also exclusively supports a banking north side approach:
It was dipping slightly left and right, it was not steady, so it may very well have been turning and/or not flying in a direct path.
BigSarge quote source
The official story REQUIRES a perfectly straight, direct, and steady path at this point and the official speed of 460 knots would not give him any
time to perceive any sort of slight "dip" right or left at all.
Thanks for adding to the discussion BigSarge, if you haven't viewed the video with all the interviews I am talking about please go to the original
post of this thread and view it. I would also like to personally invite you to the conference I'll be speaking at in Arlington on Saturday July 11th
at 10:00 am. Full itinerary and details about location can be downloaded
here.
What you witnessed has astronomical implications on a world historical level. I highly recommend that you attend. Even better what I'd REALLY like
to do is meet you at ANC on Friday July 10th in order to document your firsthand eyewitness account on video on-location in the same place you saw the
plane just like we have with so many other witnesses.
Unfortunately people will consider your account tainted since you are now aware of where all the other witnesses at ANC and in the surrounding area
place the plane and aware of how this fatally contradicts the official story.
Nonetheless if you are an honest witness who is willing to go on record with your real name, I'd be happy to independently document your account.
[edit on 27-6-2009 by Craig Ranke CIT]
