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Three years ago, at about this time of year we were sitting in our garden in Brighton, UK, the sun was setting and it was a clear evening. One of my sons came into the garden and told us that he could see something odd in the sky from his bedroom window, he pointed it out but it was small and low down in the sky. I went and got my binoculars with x8 magnification and had another look. I passed them to my wife who also spent some time trying to work out what she was seeing. It looked like a silver triangle, barely moving and I spent some time looking at it. It soon became apparent that it was moving from west to east and was very high up indeed, the silver triangle was in fact the exhaust plume - or twin exhaust plumes, illuminated by the setting sun, they were eminating from a triangular or even diamond shaped aircraft. As it passed overhead I became aware of the speed it was doing. It was utterly silent (due to it's great height?) and had two distinct exhaust plumes. The craft was not really visible to the naked eye and could only be made out through x8 binoculars.
Originally posted by Shugo
ghost... I know you are on this team... and I treat you with the utmost respect. But, I'm gonna tell you some info that site does not tell you.
The X-33 Project was canceled recently... I don't recall when or why... all I remember is that it was canceled.
I'll U2U some links with information on that, you can decide what you wanna do with em yourself.
Originally posted by Shugo
OK... I throw out some info to people and they don't use it... *sigh* So I will.
Covering sliQ's part in this, it's possible the F-19 Designation went to the Aurora... since looking back there never was a 100% plausable reason for skipping the F-19 designation, other than the MiG-19 and, how are you gonna pull that one off? MiG-19 and F-19 do not sound alike at all... so therefore, that is an open option to an armed version of the Aurora... possibly one with the thought to be armed Phoenix Missiles. What follows below is some information on the F-19 Designation... also in the link provided a list of other missing designations.
The F-19 designation was never assigned. The official explanation by DOD was "to avoid confusion with MiG-19", which was generally regarded as very implausible (because so far no numbers had been skipped to avoid clashes with foreign designators). Therefore, it was much speculated whether F-19 was really skipped, and if so, for what real reason. One viable theory was that F-19 was originally allocated to (or at least reserved for) the F-117A Nighthawk, but eventually not used (see also article about Non-Standard DOD Aircraft Designations). The other main line of reasoning was that Northrop specifically requested the F-20 designator for its then new Tigershark (originally designated F-5G) to make it look as "the first of a new fighter generation" (i.e., the "20" series).
The truth is in fact a combination of the second idea and the official line. The designation "F-19A" was indeed officially skipped at Northrop's request. They wanted to redesignate the F-5G as F-20A, because they preferred an even number. The Soviet competitors in the export fighter market of the early 1980s all used odd numbers, and Northrop wanted to stand out from these. So the official "confusion with MiG-19"-story is in fact more or less close to the truth, although the phrase is a bit misleading. Nobody would "confuse" an "F-19A" with a MiG-19, especially because the latter was obsolete anyway at that time. To say it again, Northrop didn't want to avoid "confusion" with MiG-19 in particular, but to use an even number to stand out from all the Soviet odd ones. The F-20A designator was approved despite official recommendation by the USAF Standards Branch (at that time responsible for nomenclature assignments) to follow the regulations and use "F-19A".
The facts are documented by several letters exchanged between various USAF/DOD offices during the process of requesting and assigning the F-20A designator to Northrop. On 28 October 1982, HQ Aeronautical Systems Divison, USAF (apparently handling the F-5G program for the Air Force) wrote a letter to the USAF Standards Branch to request a new model number for the F-5G on behalf of Northrop Corporation.
As a side note, the name Tigershark for the F-20A was eventually approved on 30 March 1983. It had originally been requested on 4 September 1981 for the F-5G, but was then rejected "due to a proliferation of popular names for the F-5 aircraft series and the speculative nature of the F-5G venture" [USAF quote].
The next available design number in the F-series is F-24. However, after the allocation of the out-of-sequence F-35 designation to the JSF, it's possible that a future manned fighter (if there will be one) would be designated F-36.
More Missing Designations
On Thursday, April 29th 20004, I was driving across the Mojave Desert near Edwards AFB on my way home from Arizona. My girlfriend and I heard a sonic boom. We didn't think much of it, since we know stuff is tested there all the time.
Not more than five minutes later, my girlfriend is excitedly pointing to the sky saying "Whoa, what's that?"
When I looked up, I saw a plane like nothing I've ever seen. It was pretty low...about 2500 ft AGL and it was flying directly over the highway. It lookes like it was on approach for landing. It had the silhouette of the Space Shuttle, with short, curved Delta wings. The nose section had a profile similar to the SR-71. The bottom was flat...I saw no air inlets and no jets. It was a dull-gray color.
I can't imagine something so secret flying in broad daylight, but I know of no plane that looks like this.
Originally posted by Shugo
I would like to make a brief note here:
It seems I looked up Stations report on another site, and also found it here. It is claimed by him to be a D-21 Drone. However, I have strong doubts to this as the D-21 drones are no longer flown, at least in the 2002 World Aircraft Databases.
The craft was in the shape of a spade not traveling at very high speed. According to him, did not make much noise if made at all.
I am looking more into the D-21 and comparison with all of the Aurora sightings to the D-21 and uncover whether or not this sighting is classified real or fake. More details on this case as they become available.
The name "Aurora" came about from a 1986 Pentagon Budget document and was slotted to recieve a large sum of money. The project is suspected to contain two aircraft: a large SST that is the first stage of a two-stage aircraft/satellite launcher possibly developed following the Challenger explosion in 1986, and a smaller triangular HST that has been even more reported and speculated about. It is said to be the most remarkable flying machine ever built and is seen as the epitome of a century of aerospace development! I originally did this project for FS5 when I noticed an article in Popular Science in 1993 and later on bought the XR-7 Thunderdart plastic model kit (based on Aurora) by Testers Corp. Testors also made the SR-75 Penetrator model kit which is what my version is somewhat based upon. Since the true designations and confirmed existence are unknown, I used the same numbers as the kits since they make some sense, however those silly names will NOT be used. Since this is the largest project I have ever done, and all previous sims couldn't allow for the planes to be done properly it has taken several years of spare time to get to this point, therefore I have broken it down into several parts. The two main sections will deal with each aircraft: SR-75 and the XR-7.
A few years ago, I was outside and it was the nighttime. I noticed this plane flying overhead of me. It was flying low yet you couldn't really hear it. It was in the exact shape of a triangle and it had all these lights on the bottom. The first thing that popped up in my head was a Night Hawk. The plane was black, thats for sure. It was flying low, and I mean LOW, not some faint thing, it was a very sharp triangle and the lights on the bottom were in a triangular pattern like in rows yet were going with the shape of the plane, which was a triangle, the lights weredots but were cleary visable and weren't tiny, like I said it was VERY VERY quiet and since it was dark too and the plane was black it would have been hard to detect if it didn't have all those lights. It also wasn't moving super fast. A very strange plane.